On Friday 20 February 2009 21:58:53 Marco Martin wrote:
> > Ok, let this with me and darktears ;)...We really want this moving
> > forward..
>
> me will follow near, can't promise, but let's rock :)
Yay! +1 :)
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On Saturday 21 February 2009 18:27:20 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Saturday 21 February 2009, Marco Martin wrote:
> > On Saturday 21 February 2009, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > > I'm also interested in plasma-mid as an improved plasmoidviewer, but
> > > maybe we can have Morpheuz' previewer for plasma
On Saturday 21 February 2009, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Saturday 21 February 2009, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > I'm also interested in plasma-mid as an improved plasmoidviewer, but
> > maybe we can have Morpheuz' previewer for plasmate as that?
>
> i'm really interested in that having a minimal plasm
On Saturday 21 February 2009, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> On Friday 20 February 2009 18:36:33 Artur Souza(MoRpHeUz) wrote:
> > On Friday 20 February 2009 13:45:28 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > > what it needs is someone who feels responsible for it and gets upset
> > > when it isn't moving in the right d
On Friday 20 February 2009 18:36:33 Artur Souza(MoRpHeUz) wrote:
> On Friday 20 February 2009 13:45:28 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > what it needs is someone who feels responsible for it and gets upset when
> > it isn't moving in the right directions. it's less about "who will write
> > code for it" an
On Friday 20 February 2009, Artur Souza(MoRpHeUz) wrote:
> On Friday 20 February 2009 13:45:28 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > what it needs is someone who feels responsible for it and gets upset when
> > it isn't moving in the right directions. it's less about "who will write
> > code for it" and more a
On Friday 20 February 2009, Artur Souza(MoRpHeUz) wrote:
> On Friday 20 February 2009 13:45:28 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > what it needs is someone who feels responsible for it and gets upset when
> > it isn't moving in the right directions. it's less about "who will write
> > code for it" and more a
On Friday 20 February 2009 13:45:28 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> what it needs is someone who feels responsible for it and gets upset when
> it isn't moving in the right directions. it's less about "who will write
> code for it" and more about "who will poke people with pointy sticks and
> make sure the
On Friday 20 February 2009, Artur Souza(MoRpHeUz) wrote:
> In worst scenario we can have some people taking care of plasma-mid (even
> if it's not their _main_ baby). I mean, me + marco + sebas? + aaron +
> whoever is interested would make it happen.slower than if someone had
> it as a baby but
A Friday 20 February 2009 11:52:28, Marco Martin escreveu:
OK count me in aswell for low mantinership level, I have somthing already done
for that and adpting some of the ideas from the educational thing might be
good (the educational device im thinking on is the the classmate 2 that is
also to
On Friday 20 February 2009, Alexis Ménard wrote:
> From my side i will be ok to work on it but as i said to Morpheuz i will
> need help because i am pretty busy.
>
> So i need help for the artwork and for patches if they come.
i think perhaps if there are are some people that can give evenjust few
>From my side i will be ok to work on it but as i said to Morpheuz i will
need help because i am pretty busy.
So i need help for the artwork and for patches if they come.
Having plasma-mid, i can see two benefits,having a real alternative to the
GTK stuff on Maemo...I want to get rid of... I thin
hi!
On Friday 20 February 2009 00:53:28 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> but we ought to turn some guns on plasma-mid as well, but only if we have
> them to spare.
>
> realistically, i'm already maxed out and can't give it the care, attention
> and love it will take to make plasma-mid all that it should be
On Friday 20 February 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> hi all ...
>
> there was some discussion on #plasma today about plasma-mid. the short
> story is that we got all excited about it at the last akademy and then
> subsequently got sidetracked from it when we all focused on making the
> traditional d
On 8/26/08, Matthias Welwarsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 26. August 2008, Chani wrote:
>
> > On 8/25/08, Benjamin Kleiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Am Montag 25. August 2008 21:54:53 schrieb Matthias Welwarsky:
> > > > Am Montag 25 August 2008 17:50 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
>
On Tuesday 26 August 2008 12:39:26 Marco Martin wrote:
> maybe keeping pressed for more than x time like the fake right mouse menu
> in some places of maemo?
> would only be needed that the menu has items big enough
> (there is even already a plasma patch by Marijn that does that)
>
> Cheers,
> Nar
A Tuesday 26 August 2008 12:47:59, Marco Martin escreveu:
> On Tuesday 26 August 2008, pinheiro wrote:
> > A Tuesday 26 August 2008 11:39:26, Marco Martin escreveu:
> > > On Tuesday 26 August 2008, Chani wrote:
> > > > what about corner actions like in dolphin? or would that suck for
> > > > thumbs
On Tuesday, 26. August 2008, Chani wrote:
> On 8/25/08, Benjamin Kleiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Am Montag 25. August 2008 21:54:53 schrieb Matthias Welwarsky:
> > > Am Montag 25 August 2008 17:50 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> > > > these icons will be big, shiny and happy. i'd also like to offe
On Tuesday 26 August 2008, pinheiro wrote:
> A Tuesday 26 August 2008 11:39:26, Marco Martin escreveu:
> > On Tuesday 26 August 2008, Chani wrote:
> > > what about corner actions like in dolphin? or would that suck for
> > > thumbs? ...ohh. those normally show up on hover, and touchscreens
> > > do
A Tuesday 26 August 2008 11:39:26, Marco Martin escreveu:
> On Tuesday 26 August 2008, Chani wrote:
> > what about corner actions like in dolphin? or would that suck for
> > thumbs? ...ohh. those normally show up on hover, and touchscreens
> > don't really have hover
> > aaron,were you suggesti
On Tuesday 26 August 2008, Chani wrote:
>
> what about corner actions like in dolphin? or would that suck for
> thumbs? ...ohh. those normally show up on hover, and touchscreens
> don't really have hover
> aaron,were you suggesting they show up on mousedown and then i can
> drag my pointer to o
On 8/25/08, Benjamin Kleiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Am Montag 25. August 2008 21:54:53 schrieb Matthias Welwarsky:
>
> > Am Montag 25 August 2008 17:50 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
>
> > > these icons will be big, shiny and happy. i'd also like to offer a hover
>
> > > based interface for th
On Monday 25 August 2008 18:14:14 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> i have some (poorly) hand drawn sketches that i could scan in, but Riccardo
> actually had inkscape open and was working on mockups. maybe he can share
> that if he still has it; if not, then i'll fire up skanlite =)
yes, it needs a little
On Monday 25 August 2008 19:14:51 Marco Martin wrote:
> i think we should also pay attention to make a default layout that would
> look usable both for an horizontal screen and a vertical one with
> height the display or not, but is still something important i think.
If you want to do it well, tha
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Marco Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i think we should also pay attention to make a default layout that would look
> usable both for an horizontal screen and a vertical one with height now, i don't know if n810 graphics drivers support rotation of the display o
2008/8/25 Aaron J. Seigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> that is understandable. when i compare the current maemo look to canola, it's
> really night and day to me: canola wins, hands down.
\o/ ! =P
> if you could perhaps share what the goals or requirements are for canola when
> it comes to the look an
Am Montag 25. August 2008 21:54:53 schrieb Matthias Welwarsky:
> Am Montag 25 August 2008 17:50 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> > these icons will be big, shiny and happy. i'd also like to offer a hover
> > based interface for them, so you can press, hold briefly, move, release
> > and trigger a non-laun
On Monday 25 August 2008, Matthias Welwarsky wrote:
> Am Montag 25 August 2008 16:22 schrieb Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz):
> > Hey!
> >
> > 2008/8/24 Aaron J. Seigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > 5. create artwork for all this specific to the devices
> > > 6. research!
> >
> > Just my 2 cents: our experien
Am Montag 25 August 2008 17:50 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> these icons will be big, shiny and happy. i'd also like to offer a hover
> based interface for them, so you can press, hold briefly, move, release and
> trigger a non-launch action (such as colour in the "mark as favourite"
> star, or maybe t
Am Montag 25 August 2008 16:22 schrieb Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz):
> Hey!
>
> 2008/8/24 Aaron J. Seigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 5. create artwork for all this specific to the devices
> > 6. research!
>
> Just my 2 cents: our experience with n810 shows that end users tend
> to like interfaces "thumb-f
On Monday 25 August 2008, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Monday 25 August 2008, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > the two Views is probably easier and cleaner.
>
> kinda like more the two views thing,
and now this is what plasma-mid does in svn.
so ...
to flesh this puppy out a bit more we need to create tha
On Monday 25 August 2008, Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote:
> Hey!
>
> 2008/8/24 Aaron J. Seigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 5. create artwork for all this specific to the devices
> > 6. research!
>
> Just my 2 cents: our experience with n810 shows that end users tend
> to like interfaces "thumb-friendly
On Monday 25 August 2008, Ivan Čukić wrote:
> Do anyone think it would be a good idea to start this drafting at techbase,
> and to populate it with actual mock-ups? Although I do understand (mostly
> :) ) what Aaron said, I think it'd be more obvious with mocks.
i have some (poorly) hand drawn ske
On Monday 25 August 2008, Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote:
>Yes, we run canola full screen because we wanted something really
> different from maemo-look
that is understandable. when i compare the current maemo look to canola, it's
really night and day to me: canola wins, hands down.
if you cou
Do anyone think it would be a good idea to start this drafting at techbase,
and to populate it with actual mock-ups? Although I do understand (mostly :) )
what Aaron said, I think it'd be more obvious with mocks.
BTW, +1 for the thing I understood Aaron wants :)
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On Monday 25 August 2008, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Monday 25 August 2008, Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote:
> > Hey!
> >
> > 2008/8/24 Aaron J. Seigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > 5. create artwork for all this specific to the devices
> > > 6. research!
> >
> > Just my 2 cents: our experience with n81
Hey!
2008/8/25 Aaron J. Seigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> right now canola "takes over" the device with it's own info bar, etc, which
> shouldn't be necessary with the plasma MID design. it would also be great for
> us to conspire^Wcollaborate on art direction so we can provide a canola theme
> that me
On Monday 25 August 2008, Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote:
> Hey!
>
> 2008/8/24 Aaron J. Seigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 5. create artwork for all this specific to the devices
> > 6. research!
>
> Just my 2 cents: our experience with n810 shows that end users tend
> to like interfaces "thumb-friendly
Hi,
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Michael Rudolph
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> with "thumb-friendly", do you mean finger friendly? All ten fingers,
> or really just the two thumbs?
Regarding the n810 I would say just the two thumbs...imagine that
you hold the device with both hands and use
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey!
>
> 2008/8/24 Aaron J. Seigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> 5. create artwork for all this specific to the devices
>> 6. research!
>
> Just my 2 cents: our experience with n810 shows that end users tend
> to like in
Hey!
2008/8/24 Aaron J. Seigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 5. create artwork for all this specific to the devices
> 6. research!
Just my 2 cents: our experience with n810 shows that end users tend
to like interfaces "thumb-friendly", so it would be great If we could
imagine an UI that the user could
On Monday 25 August 2008, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Monday 25 August 2008, Marco Martin wrote:
> > On Monday 25 August 2008, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > > hi all..
> > >
> > > Control Bar
> > > ===
> > > this will contain a title for the current application and buttons for
> > > home, put away a
On Monday 25 August 2008, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Monday 25 August 2008, Marco Martin wrote:
> > On Monday 25 August 2008, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > > hi all..
> > >
> > > Control Bar
> > > ===
> > > this will contain a title for the current application and buttons for
> > > home, put away a
On 8/25/08, Marijn Kruisselbrink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Apart from the keyboard-open/-close events all the hardware buttons on the
> N810 are not 'special' in any way, they just send 'normal' F1,F2,F3,... (not
> sure about the exact numbers) and ESC events. So is something special really
> ne
On 8/25/08, Kevin Ottens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Le Monday 25 August 2008, Aaron J. Seigo a écrit :
>> * how to integrate with special buttons on these devices?
>
> FYI, I'm planning to channel this through libsolid. API wise we're close to
> have everything we need there, so it's really about
On Monday 25 August 2008, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Monday 25 August 2008, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > hi all..
> >
> > Control Bar
> > ===
> > this will contain a title for the current application and buttons for
> > home, put away and quit. it will also contain on the right hand side the
> > MID
> the point of this is to allow some of these icons to be hidden/shown on
> demand so they aren't always on-screen taking up space.
Ok, I misunderstood you then :)
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On Monday 25 August 2008, Ivan Čukić wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> > Ivan has worked on a similar concept for a project he is working on; it
> > is in playground/plasma/applets/embedded-ivan/titlebar/ .. we should look
> > into Ivan's work here.
>
> I was planning to separate the 'control bar' as you named
Le Monday 25 August 2008, Marijn Kruisselbrink a écrit :
> Apart from the keyboard-open/-close events all the hardware buttons on the
> N810 are not 'special' in any way, they just send 'normal' F1,F2,F3,...
> (not sure about the exact numbers) and ESC events. So is something special
> really neede
On Monday 25 August 2008 08:33:31 Kevin Ottens wrote:
> Le Monday 25 August 2008, Aaron J. Seigo a écrit :
> > * how to integrate with special buttons on these devices?
>
> FYI, I'm planning to channel this through libsolid. API wise we're close to
> have everything we need there, so it's really ab
On Monday 25 August 2008, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> hi all..
>
> Control Bar
> ===
> this will contain a title for the current application and buttons for home,
> put away and quit. it will also contain on the right hand side the MID
> system tray, which actually won't really be a system tray as
A Monday 25 August 2008 02:22:23, Aaron J. Seigo escreveu:
> hi all..
>
> some of us huddled together at Akademy on the last day and discussed what
> we'd like to do for things like the Nokia N Series and EEE PC computers, or
> as they are more generally known "mobile internet devices" or MIDs.
>
>
Hi all,
> Ivan has worked on a similar concept for a project he is working on; it is
> in playground/plasma/applets/embedded-ivan/titlebar/ .. we should look into
> Ivan's work here.
I was planning to separate the 'control bar' as you named it into multiple
parts - i see no reason to force-merge
Le Monday 25 August 2008, Aaron J. Seigo a écrit :
> * how to integrate with special buttons on these devices?
FYI, I'm planning to channel this through libsolid. API wise we're close to
have everything we need there, so it's really about upgrading the internal
mechanics to make it work.
Once t
On Monday 25 August 2008 03:22:23 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> App Launcher
> =
> the app launcher needs to be full screen (modulo the control bar). for a
> first draft we're going to try a layout with a category listing down the
> left and nice large fingerable buttons representing launchable a
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