Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-07 Thread Björn Balazs
Hi all, actualy I said that the survey will not do any harm. I was wrong with that. It already did harm, if you read the ongoing discussions. I am sorry for that - I really did not intend this. We should actually stop writing public mails about this, because obviously this kind of communicati

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Alex Fiestas
After treading the whole thread, it seems that there are people concern that the survey can do more bad than good, at least when it comes to the whole workspace. Maybe we can do a hang out (G+ thing) to sort thigns out? emails are shitty medium to talk these things and come to an agreetment. D

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Dario Freddi
2012/6/5 Aaron J. Seigo : > On Monday, June 4, 2012 23:32:08 Alex Fiestas wrote: >> On Monday, June 04, 2012 11:00:56 PM Sebastian Kügler wrote: >> > That might come as a surprise, but >> > >> >                                     Plasma == Active >> > >> > Making a difference between those (and th

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 11:23:15 Björn Balazs wrote: > We - as the designers and creators of KDE - will have to understand and > believe what people say. And we will use only what makes sense to us to > create a vision, personas, etc - and at the end software. you can't make sense of something f

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, June 4, 2012 23:32:08 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Monday, June 04, 2012 11:00:56 PM Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > That might come as a surprise, but > > > > Plasma == Active > > > > Making a difference between those (and the KDE workspace) only makes sense

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
body" then my suggestion would be to create continuity and take the name Tokamak. you, the attendees, can work on expanding what it means at the sprint to cover what we want it to, what we see ourselves (all of us) as, where we want to go and what we want to work on. one thing about terms l

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, June 4, 2012 23:57:22 Björn Balazs wrote: > What I try to do with this survey, is to ask users / the community to report > about their life - or to stay in the picture: let them imagine where the > bridge could be built and how the existence of the bridge would change > their life. and

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Dario Freddi
2012/6/5 Marco Martin : > On Tuesday 05 June 2012, Björn Balazs wrote: > >> Nobody ever suggested to do a user-led approach, to stick in the >> terminology of the article. Even though I have a somewhat more >> differentiated view on the topic than it is been layed out in the article, >> the main po

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 05 June 2012, Björn Balazs wrote: > Nobody ever suggested to do a user-led approach, to stick in the > terminology of the article. Even though I have a somewhat more > differentiated view on the topic than it is been layed out in the article, > the main points are correct (ok, the artic

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Björn Balazs
Marco, all, Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2012, 10:01:44 schrieb Marco Martin: > On Monday 04 June 2012, Björn Balazs wrote: > > Aaron, all, > > > > thanks for your mail. It is good to adress these kinds of worries directly > > - and before the survey gets started. I actually get confronted with them > >

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 04 June 2012, Björn Balazs wrote: > Aaron, all, > > thanks for your mail. It is good to adress these kinds of worries directly > - and before the survey gets started. I actually get confronted with them > often in my work. > > I personally think we do not need to worry. In most projects

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-04 Thread Björn Balazs
h methods. > > an even better starting point might be to discuss WHAT information we need. > > or .. we could wait until the sprint starts. i can do a bit of an > orientation via a google hangout with the attendees to point things in a > reasonable direction. this is what we have d

Re: Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-04 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Monday, June 04, 2012 11:00:56 PM Sebastian Kügler wrote: > That might come as a surprise, but > > Plasma == Active > > Making a difference between those (and the KDE workspace) only makes sense > in a very limited scope. There's only a technical differenc

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-04 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 04 June 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > I can answer to this. > > Tokamak 5 is (wrongly?) understood as the Plasma team sprint, this sprint > is not only about plasma but instead about "How we move the workspace > forward". It is actually closer to the Active sprint. maybe that's exactly

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-04 Thread Björn Balazs
Aurélien, Marco, thanks, changed the survey accordingly. Björn Am Montag, 4. Juni 2012, 18:35:13 schrieb Marco Martin: > On Monday 04 June 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > nt at all > > > > * Adapt to the task the user is currently doing (e.g. provide a > > > different > > > UI when writing a let

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-04 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Monday, June 04, 2012 22:49:35 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Monday, June 04, 2012 08:17:27 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > p.s. and why isn't this "Tokamak 5" and instead morphed into the nebulous > > "Next Workspace Iteration Sprint" which does nothing to bui

Re: Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-04 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Monday, June 04, 2012 08:17:27 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > p.s. and why isn't this "Tokamak 5" and instead morphed into the nebulous > "Next Workspace Iteration Sprint" which does nothing to build on the > community platform we have going here, alienating j

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-04 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
the sprint starts. i can do a bit of an orientation via a google hangout with the attendees to point things in a reasonable direction. this is what we have done for the last 3 years, and tokamaks have been remarkably productive. p.s. and why isn't this "Tokamak 5" and instead morp

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-04 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 04 June 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote: nt at all > > > > * Adapt to the task the user is currently doing (e.g. provide a different > > UI when writing a letter or writing a novel) > > * Scale interfaces with the ammount of information > > ammount => amount > > > * Direct manipulation of

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-04 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
This survey is a good idea, thanks for starting it. > - > Following we have listed a couple of ideas that could be important for a > bright future of KDE. Please rate how important you think they actually are! > > Skale: Very important <> Not important at all > > * Adapt to the task

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-04 Thread Björn Balazs
Am Montag, 4. Juni 2012, 17:23:09 schrieb Anne-Marie Mahfouf: > pad -> tablet please Thanks - changed it. Björn > > On 06/04/2012 05:12 PM, Björn Balazs wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have tuned the survey a bit. Now I need feedback esp. to one question. > > To > > make it easy for you, here it

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-04 Thread Anne-Marie Mahfouf
pad -> tablet please Anne-Marie On 06/04/2012 05:12 PM, Björn Balazs wrote: Hi all, I have tuned the survey a bit. Now I need feedback esp. to one question. To make it easy for you, here it is: - Following we have listed a couple of ideas that could be important for a bright future of

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-04 Thread Björn Balazs
Hi all, I have tuned the survey a bit. Now I need feedback esp. to one question. To make it easy for you, here it is: - Following we have listed a couple of ideas that could be important for a bright future of KDE. Please rate how important you think they actually are! Skale: Very impo

Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-03 Thread Björn Balazs
Hi all, I have prepared a survey to gather wide input for the Sprint next week. I want to start the survey tomorrow evening (Monday, CEST), and I would like to get some feedback from you guys untill then. THE SURVEY DOES NOT YET RECORD ANYTHING (So, please do not spread the link untill I say

Next Workspace iteration

2012-02-25 Thread Alex Fiestas
Hi there fellow workspace developers ! A few days ago I set up a meeting with some other workspace hackers in order to gather opinions and ideas of how and when we should start to work on the next Workspace iteration. Surprisingly everybody thought more or less the same and we quickly agreed