Re: Looking around and thinking ahead

2013-12-12 Thread Mark Gaiser
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday, December 12, 2013 17:30:47 Martin Klapetek wrote: >> I don't think it makes much sense to dismiss the one and only tossed in (so >> far anyway) simply because...well, I even don't know why. It's there. It's >> done. It's usable.

Re: Looking around and thinking ahead

2013-12-12 Thread Eike Hein
On Thursday 12 December 2013 17:46:13 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > complicating this is that one can have multiple tasks widgets or docks, you > might be running the netbook containment (or not), etc. there’s a lot of > dynamic pieces there. Aye, "Add to Panel" for example tries to add to the panel con

Re: Looking around and thinking ahead

2013-12-12 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 17:30:47 Martin Klapetek wrote: > I don't think it makes much sense to dismiss the one and only tossed in (so > far anyway) simply because...well, I even don't know why. It's there. It's > done. It's usable. Why not at least try it out and actually see if it meets > t

Re: Looking around and thinking ahead

2013-12-12 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 15:41:05 Eike Hein wrote: > On Thursday 12 December 2013 15:29:00 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > as an aside: this really makes zero sense to have. it requires plasmoid A > > to work with plasmoid B in a way that makes lots of assumptions. > > "Add to Desktop" and "Add to

Re: Looking around and thinking ahead

2013-12-12 Thread Martin Klapetek
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday, December 12, 2013 15:09:25 Eike Hein wrote: > > On Thursday 12 December 2013 02:26:42 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > > In plasma-shell, we have some construction sites as well. Kickoff still > > > feels quite unfinished (some woul

Re: Looking around and thinking ahead

2013-12-12 Thread Eike Hein
On Thursday 12 December 2013 15:29:00 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > so i don’t think it makes much sense to toss N of them in a ring and discuss > relative merits. Ah yup, and that's the sort of reply I expected from this mailing list, which is why I wasn't going to do so until I was prodded. Plasma is

Re: Looking around and thinking ahead

2013-12-12 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 15:09:25 Eike Hein wrote: > On Thursday 12 December 2013 02:26:42 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > In plasma-shell, we have some construction sites as well. Kickoff still > > feels quite unfinished (some would say broken ;)) > > I wrote a new menu implementation for KDE 4

Re: Looking around and thinking ahead

2013-12-12 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 14:42:28 Marco Martin wrote: > who becomes the qquickitem then? the root item in the QML itself? is there really a need for an additional container item? > (after trying many combinations in the past, the concept to have a c++ > object that goes in the scene and co

Re: Looking around and thinking ahead

2013-12-12 Thread Eike Hein
On Thursday 12 December 2013 02:26:42 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > In plasma-shell, we have some construction sites as well. Kickoff still > feels quite unfinished (some would say broken ;)) I wrote a new menu implementation for KDE 4 recently: http://i.imgur.com/eiq6D5w.png http://i.imgur.com/h9Y5j

Re: Looking around and thinking ahead

2013-12-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 12 December 2013, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > yes, this means some > > in summary: > > * actions and config API axed > * get rid of unused / deprecated API > * move some business logic methods back into Plasma::Applet > * move the rest of it into DeclarativeAppletScript > > thoughts? pro

Re: Looking around and thinking ahead

2013-12-12 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 13:33:38 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > The plasmoid object collates what we present as public API, and the QML > tricks, so maybe put a skeleton API class in libplasma, and derive from that > in the scriptengine (and putting the QML specific bits in there). This just so

Re: Looking around and thinking ahead

2013-12-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 12 December 2013, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday, December 12, 2013 02:26:42 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > Today, I'm running Plasma 2 almost exclusively on my laptop. The most > > you wonderful, crazy man. :) > > > In plasma-shell, we have some construction sites as well. Kickoff

Re: Looking around and thinking ahead

2013-12-12 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 13:06:21 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > The scriptengine has quite a large bunch of code as well. Does it make > > sense to move the plasmoid. object (offered to our Plasma/Applets) into > > libplasma, it's pretty much core of our current API, but otoh is currently > > fix

Re: Looking around and thinking ahead

2013-12-12 Thread Ivan Čukić
> how is shell switching being tested currently? It is not. We have only one shell :) ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: Looking around and thinking ahead

2013-12-12 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 02:26:42 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Today, I'm running Plasma 2 almost exclusively on my laptop. The most you wonderful, crazy man. :) > In plasma-shell, we have some construction sites as well. Kickoff still > feels quite unfinished (some would say broken ;)), confi

Looking around and thinking ahead

2013-12-11 Thread Sebastian Kügler
Hi all, I thought I'd share a braindump with you how I can imagine the coming year in Plasma. I'll outline the current state "a bit more detailed", and will offer ideas how we're scheduling the coming months up to a stable, brand-spanking new Plasma, as well as outlining work we have ahead of u