Re: [compiz] [RFC] Draft for a compositing manager specification

2010-08-23 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:09:34 -0700 "Aaron J. Seigo" said: > On Saturday, August 21, 2010, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:16:04 +0200 Martin Gräßlin > > (btw - e17 has had a gl and software compositor for a little while now :) > > if you include bling - a xrender one for many y

Re: [compiz] [RFC] Draft for a compositing manager specification

2010-08-23 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday, August 21, 2010, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:16:04 +0200 Martin Gräßlin > (btw - e17 has had a gl and software compositor for a little while now :) > if you include bling - a xrender one for many years, so i'm in the > same/similar boat with you guys, but with a di

Re: [compiz] [RFC] Draft for a compositing manager specification

2010-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:16:04 +0200 Martin Gräßlin said: hmmm aaah ok! got it. read it. summary: "eeek". my simple view of this spec is that "almost all of it is highly kde/desktop specific and is not supportable in a general sense". now i hope you don't all hate me for this... but i'm going t

Re: [compiz] [RFC] Draft for a compositing manager specification

2010-08-18 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Sunday 15 August 2010 23:14:48 Thomas Lübking wrote: > Am Sunday 15 August 2010 schrieb Martin Gräßlin: > > On Sunday 15 August 2010 16:19:04 Sam Spilsbury wrote: > > > The compositor should set the _NET_CM_SHADOW_SUPPORTED hint and > > > clients should set the following information in the _NET_

Re: [compiz] [RFC] Draft for a compositing manager specification

2010-08-18 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 17 August 2010 05:00:19 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > wm+cm now provides both frame AND window background (or is able to via its > own frame styles) and application + toolkit now provides ARGB windows with > what used to be the "window background" be transparent "assuming" it is > composited

Re: [compiz] [RFC] Draft for a compositing manager specification

2010-08-17 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday, August 15, 2010, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Sunday 15 August 2010 16:19:04 Sam Spilsbury wrote: > > 3.4 Dashboard > > > > Unless there is any particular effect that we have in mind for this, > > is it possible that clients can just set the Above hint in WM_STATE > > and then set one of

Re: [compiz] [RFC] Draft for a compositing manager specification

2010-08-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:49:28 +0800 Sam Spilsbury said: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Sam Spilsbury wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Samium Gromoff > > <_deepf...@feelingofgreen.ru> wrote: > >> Good day! > >> > >>> I want that in the end this becomes a new freedesktop.org specific

Re: [compiz] [RFC] Draft for a compositing manager specification

2010-08-16 Thread Sam Spilsbury
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Sam Spilsbury wrote: > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Samium Gromoff > <_deepf...@feelingofgreen.ru> wrote: >> Good day! >> >>> I want that in the end this becomes a new freedesktop.org specification to >>> be >>> used in addition to the EWMH specification. As I

Re: [compiz] [RFC] Draft for a compositing manager specification

2010-08-16 Thread Sam Spilsbury
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Samium Gromoff <_deepf...@feelingofgreen.ru> wrote: > Good day! > >> I want that in the end this becomes a new freedesktop.org specification to be >> used in addition to the EWMH specification. As I am not sure if all >> composited >> window managers are interested

Re: [compiz] [RFC] Draft for a compositing manager specification

2010-08-16 Thread Samium Gromoff
Good day! > I want that in the end this becomes a new freedesktop.org specification to be > used in addition to the EWMH specification. As I am not sure if all > composited > window managers are interested in such a specification I decided to discuss > this idea first with kwin, compiz (as the

Re: [compiz] [RFC] Draft for a compositing manager specification

2010-08-16 Thread Sam Spilsbury
Hi Martin, All. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > I want that in the end this becomes a new freedesktop.org specification to be > used in addition to the EWMH specification. As I am not sure if all composited > window managers are interested in such a specification I decide

Re: [compiz] [RFC] Draft for a compositing manager specification

2010-08-15 Thread Thomas Lübking
Am Sunday 15 August 2010 schrieb Martin Gräßlin: > On Sunday 15 August 2010 16:19:04 Sam Spilsbury wrote: > > The compositor should set the _NET_CM_SHADOW_SUPPORTED hint and > > clients should set the following information in the _NET_CM_SHADOW > > property on the window. > > > > 0 | shadow color

Re: [compiz] [RFC] Draft for a compositing manager specification

2010-08-15 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Sunday 15 August 2010 16:19:04 Sam Spilsbury wrote: > Hi Martin, All. > > On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Martin Gräßlin > > wrote: > > I want that in the end this becomes a new freedesktop.org specification > > to be used in addition to the EWMH specification. As I am not sure if > > all co

[RFC] Draft for a compositing manager specification

2010-08-15 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Resending as kwin and plasma mailinglists think that 200k is too large for a mail. The "attachment" can be found in [2] Hi, Pleas note: crossposting to kwin, compiz and plasma development lists. Please keep all lists CCed. Attached you can find a very first draft for a compositing manager spe