Re: kill the systray?

2013-09-24 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:46:24 Matthias Klumpp wrote: > Sorry, I confused the naming here... And I am aware offen the previous > discussion (followed it, but was not involved) I just think that it might > make sense to start a New attempt on this, now that everyone is working > towards way

Re: kill the systray?

2013-09-24 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Tuesday 24 September 2013 20:48:23 Kevin Krammer wrote: > On Tuesday, 2013-09-24, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > * Qt5 doesn't seem to have the API we need to do our xembed tricks > > anymore, > > > > especially QX11EmbedContainer is gone. If we even get it to work under > > > > X11, it seems e

Re: kill the systray?

2013-09-24 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Tuesday, 2013-09-24, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > * Qt5 doesn't seem to have the API we need to do our xembed tricks anymore, > especially QX11EmbedContainer is gone. If we even get it to work under > X11, it seems entirely futile to expect this to be feasible in a Wayland > world. I think QWin

Re: kill the systray?

2013-09-24 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 24 September 2013, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > as i write this, the idea of a hybrid package becomes more and more > desirable sounding. with a different main script, it should be possible to > launch the same UI but without it being an actual plasmoid. > > this would also change how plasmo

Re: kill the systray?

2013-09-24 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Sorry, I confused the naming here... And I am aware offen the previous discussion (followed it, but was not involved) I just think that it might make sense to start a New attempt on this, now that everyone is working towards wayland. Talking to Xfce is a good idea too, imho. I can ask around on thi

Re: kill the systray?

2013-09-24 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 24 September 2013, Marco Martin wrote: > > Xfce), so it makes much sense to discuss post-x systray now and create a > > Freedesktop document for it - maybe just use DBusmenu... > > dbusmenu has nothing to do with systemtrays. or more precisely, it's ortogonal, we use it to do the icon

Re: kill the systray?

2013-09-24 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 24 September 2013, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > GNOME embeds the tray Icons in it's norification area, supporting xembed > right now. In future, they want a different notification system, which is > used exclusively (design docs are available, i will look them up at home) > However, I assume

Re: kill the systray?

2013-09-24 Thread Matthias Klumpp
GNOME embeds the tray Icons in it's norification area, supporting xembed right now. In future, they want a different notification system, which is used exclusively (design docs are available, i will look them up at home) However, I assume GTK+ will have a systray implementation (at least for Xfce),

Re: kill the systray?

2013-09-24 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 24 September 2013, Martin Graesslin wrote: > > if Gtk+ supported status notifiers natively, then i’d say “yes”. it > > doesn’t, so anyone who uses a Gtk+ application with a system tray icon > > will suddenly not be able to access it. i’m pretty sure that’s going to > > cause problems.

Re: kill the systray?

2013-09-24 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Tuesday 24 September 2013 18:04:55 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > * Qt5 doesn't seem to have the API we need to do our xembed tricks > > anymore, > > > > especially QX11EmbedContainer is gone. > > it’s missing more than gone; i’ve heard several times that someone or > another was working on it. w

Re: kill the systray?

2013-09-24 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 17:06:14 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Hey, > > Now that I have your attention ;), I'd like to discuss the future of the > system tray. I'm porting it right now to Qt5/KF5, and running into some > problems. > > Quick background: The systemtray widget in Plasma supports

kill the systray?

2013-09-24 Thread Sebastian Kügler
Hey, Now that I have your attention ;), I'd like to discuss the future of the system tray. I'm porting it right now to Qt5/KF5, and running into some problems. Quick background: The systemtray widget in Plasma supports three kinds of "Items", traditional, xembed-based systray icons, dbus statu

Re: Review Request 112674: Bugfix: Make the calculator applet calculate correctly

2013-09-24 Thread Sebastian Kügler
Hi Paul, On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 18:03:57 Paul Rohrbach wrote: > Thank you for accepting the patch :). But I > can't commit it, because I don't have commit rights. As you've probably seen, I've committed the patch for you to the corresponding branches. Thanks a lot for your contribution

Re: Re: kde-workspace master becomes Qt5-based

2013-09-24 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 24 September 2013 13:51:57 Albert Astals Cid wrote: > El Dimarts, 24 de setembre de 2013, a les 11:34:45, Martin Gräßlin va > > escriure: > > On Thursday 19 September 2013 19:30:52 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > We're planning to merge the frameworks-scratch branch o

Re: kde-workspace master becomes Qt5-based

2013-09-24 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dimarts, 24 de setembre de 2013, a les 11:34:45, Martin Gräßlin va escriure: > On Thursday 19 September 2013 19:30:52 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > We're planning to merge the frameworks-scratch branch of kde-workspace > > into > > master next Monday. That means if you're buildin

Re: Review Request 112727: Shrink (fancy) unhide trigger when entered while FS window is active

2013-09-24 Thread Martin Gräßlin
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/112727/#review40664 --- > no idea whether that's acceptable shouldn't be much of an iss

Re: KDE framework 5 - a humble idea

2013-09-24 Thread Michele Andrea Kipiel
Thank you, i will post a link to the scenario document as soon as i get back home after work. 2013/9/23 Aaron J. Seigo > On Monday, September 23, 2013 14:45:53 Michele Andrea Kipiel wrote: > > is there a preferred way to share documents in the mailing list? is an > > ubuntu one link an acceptab

Re: kde-workspace master becomes Qt5-based

2013-09-24 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 19 September 2013 19:30:52 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Hi all, > > We're planning to merge the frameworks-scratch branch of kde-workspace into > master next Monday. That means if you're building your Plasma yourself from > Git (and you're not yet ready for Plasma2 ;)), you should switch