On Friday 19 March 2010 17:51:04 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> it doesn't address similar issues such as:
>
> * "how can i ship custom data with my c++ plasmoid in a way that's easy to
> get at" (having a package would solve that)
What makes a package? I see a desktop file in a zip a bare minimum packa
> From: ase...@kde.org
> To: plasma-devel@kde.org
> Subject: Re: Javascript and notifications help
> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:20:31 -0700
> CC: alanis.el...@hotmail.com
>
> hi Alanis ...
>
> On March 19, 2010, asdfgh ertyhn wrote:
> > I'm trying to use the notifications service within my java
Hey Reinhold,
On Friday 19 March 2010 21:52:57 you wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 17. März 2010 14:14:17 schrieb Sebastian Kügler:
> > By the way, just strikes me that I've implemented VPN support in the new
> > Network Manager Plasmoid last week, and I've already some reports that it
> > seems to work wel
On Friday 19 March 2010, asdfgh ertyhn wrote:
> Good evening folks,
> I'm trying to use the notifications service within my javascript plasmoid
> in order to display a nice popup notification on certain events, but I'm
> stuck with its initialization. Looking at the API ( service(string
> dataEngin
On March 19, 2010, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 16. März 2010 20:53:35 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> A while ago you wrote on your blog (unfortunately, I can't find it now)
> something to the effect that people need to get on with new developments
> and designs and not stick to the old ones
On March 19, 2010, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
> I have several other issues(rather small, but sometimes also annoying and
> embarassing, like the mail notifications popping up when you are doing a
> full screeen presentation with acroread in front of 180 actuaries...), so
this is not new to plasma,
On Friday 19 March 2010, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 17. März 2010 14:14:17 schrieb Sebastian Kügler:
> > By the way, just strikes me that I've implemented VPN support in the new
> > Network Manager Plasmoid last week, and I've already some reports that it
> > seems to work well. What
In data venerdì 19 marzo 2010 21:52:57, Reinhold Kainhofer ha scritto:
> Hm, in your blog you don't add any screenshot, so I can only guess: The
> plasmoid is supposed to live on the desktop (or taking up a huge amount of
I don't know about Network Management in particular, but plasmoids (startin
Am Mittwoch, 17. März 2010 14:14:17 schrieb Sebastian Kügler:
> By the way, just strikes me that I've implemented VPN support in the new
> Network Manager Plasmoid last week, and I've already some reports that it
> seems to work well. What kind of VPN are you using?
vpnc (http://www.zid.tuwien.ac.
Am Dienstag, 16. März 2010 20:53:35 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> to answer your concerns with the strip widget for Add Widgets:
[...]
Thanks for all the explanations.
> finally, i'd invite you to consider all the use cases for this listing: on
> the screensaver, on the dashboard, in plasma-netbook,
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Am Donnerstag, 18. März 2010 10:15:04 schrieb Will Stephenson:
> On Wednesday 17 March 2010 14:14:17 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > By the way, just strikes me that I've implemented VPN support in the new
> > Network Manager Plasmoid last week, and I've a
Hi all,
First of all, sorry for not replying earlier, but I have had a really busy
week and couldn't find the time before (actually, I should also start studying
the football rules for tomorrows game right now...).
Am Mittwoch, 17. März 2010 04:40:03 schrieb Sebastian Kügler:
> I think it's als
On Friday 19 March 2010, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On March 19, 2010, Marco Martin wrote:
> > On Friday 19 March 2010, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > > hi all (and particulaly Marco :)
> > >
> > > we pulled out P's old (first gen!) EEE PC and stuck a USB key with the
>
> btw, i should probably note
hi Alanis ...
On March 19, 2010, asdfgh ertyhn wrote:
> I'm trying to use the notifications service within my javascript plasmoid
> in order to display a nice popup notification on certain events, but I'm
you know, this is a "funny" topic: it's not something i figured would be
overly critical bu
On March 19, 2010, Artur Souza wrote:
> - Original message -
>
> > On Friday 19 March 2010, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > > * one of P's first questions when using SAL was "how do add new
> > > application?" if there wasn't an "Add Widgets" button there, could
> > > there be an "Add Applicatio
On March 19, 2010, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Friday 19 March 2010, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > hi all (and particulaly Marco :)
> >
> > we pulled out P's old (first gen!) EEE PC and stuck a USB key with the
btw, i should probably note some specs: this is a 2 year old device running a
Celereon M
On March 19, 2010, Rob Hasselbaum wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On March 19, 2010, Rob Hasselbaum wrote:
> >> I'm currently doing this by listening for popupEvent.
> >
> > my concern is that this won't work in all cases.
> >
> > i bet (translation: haven't t
On March 19, 2010, Rob Hasselbaum wrote:
> Actually, the dataUpdated slot won't get invoked anyway if the applet
> isn't connected to that source, right?
that's correct.
there are two kinds of linespans for sources:
* ones the engine creates internally; these are up to the engine to manage
e.g
Good evening folks,
I'm trying to use the notifications service within my javascript plasmoid in
order to display a nice popup notification on certain events,
but I'm stuck with its initialization. Looking at the API ( service(string
dataEngineName, string sourceName) ), I wrote something like:
On Friday 19 March 2010, you wrote:
> - Original message -
>
> > On Friday 19 March 2010, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > > * one of P's first questions when using SAL was "how do add new
> > > application?" if there wasn't an "Add Widgets" button there, could
> > > there be an "Add Applications
- Original message -
> On Friday 19 March 2010, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > * one of P's first questions when using SAL was "how do add new
> > application?" if there wasn't an "Add Widgets" button there, could there
> > be an "Add Applications" that launches KPackageKit?
Add applications i
On Friday 19 March 2010, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> hi all (and particulaly Marco :)
>
> we pulled out P's old (first gen!) EEE PC and stuck a USB key with the
> Plasma Netbook Reference Platform build 18 (pnrp18? :) on it. the good
> news: it worked straight out of the box .. er .. usb drive and
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Rob Hasselbaum wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>> * dataengines are inherently shared between visualizations (that's actually
>> kind of the entire point of them); so this won't work if one visualization
>> (applet, e.g.) is shown a
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On March 19, 2010, Rob Hasselbaum wrote:
>> I'm currently doing this by listening for popupEvent.
>
> my concern is that this won't work in all cases.
>
> i bet (translation: haven't tested, but judging from the code) that if you
> took an i
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On March 19, 2010, Rob Hasselbaum wrote:
>> It's expensive. So just blocking the updates from propagating between
>> the data engine and the applet isn't enough.
>
> if nothing it connected to a source and the source was created using
> sour
On Friday 19 March 2010, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On March 19, 2010, Marco Martin wrote:
> > -closed popupapplet
>
> note that this use case overlaps with containment without screen(),
> separate dashboard, etc.
>
> > -containment without screen()
>
> imho that's a case where the shell should sim
(more in reply to Sebastian's email, but Rob's reply is very illuminating as
to the issues :)
On March 19, 2010, Rob Hasselbaum wrote:
> It's expensive. So just blocking the updates from propagating between
> the data engine and the applet isn't enough.
if nothing it connected to a source and th
On March 19, 2010, Marco Martin wrote:
> -closed popupapplet
note that this use case overlaps with containment without screen(), separate
dashboard, etc.
> -containment without screen()
imho that's a case where the shell should simply choose what to stash and what
to show.
e.g. in the netbook
On March 19, 2010, Rob Hasselbaum wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > my only question now is how to handle notification of the change. my
> > first thought would be to add a new Contraint (IconifiedConstraint?) and
> > then the applet could respond in constraintsE
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> There are two cases for dataUpdated that matter here, indeed:
> (1) polling / timer-based, for example refreshing RSS feeds
> (2) events, for example from Solid
>
> We want to delay (1) and just keep (2) from propagation until shown. The
On Friday 19 March 2010, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> On Friday 19 March 2010 17:21:37 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On March 18, 2010, Rob Hasselbaum wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Marco Martin
wrote:
> > > > what are you exactly trying to accomplish?
> >
> > thanks for asking the Righ
On Friday 19 March 2010, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On March 18, 2010, Alessandro Diaferia wrote:
> > Please use reviewboard. I still didn't have a look at the patch but i
> > feel reviewboard is much better in order to point out eventual issues.
> > The issue with video inside mediacenter is due to P
On Friday 19 March 2010, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> On Friday 19 March 2010 17:40:43 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On March 19, 2010, Alessandro Diaferia wrote:
> > > Me and Marco were thinking about the same. The thing is: this way the
> > > Media Center (and so, specifically, the MediaContainment) sho
On Friday 19 March 2010 17:56:12 Rob Hasselbaum wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > I wonder if we could just offer queueing updates from dataengines until
> > an applet is about to be shown. Especially for mobile devices, this "not
> > waking up unless shown" ca
On Friday 19 March 2010 17:40:43 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On March 19, 2010, Alessandro Diaferia wrote:
> > Me and Marco were thinking about the same. The thing is: this way the
> > Media Center (and so, specifically, the MediaContainment) should take
> > care of setting a transparent wallpaper?
>
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> I wonder if we could just offer queueing updates from dataengines until an
> applet is
> about to be shown. Especially for mobile devices, this "not waking up unless
> shown"
> can be very important.
In my case, the act of getting the
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> my only question now is how to handle notification of the change. my first
> thought would be to add a new Contraint (IconifiedConstraint?) and then the
> applet could respond in constraintsEvent.
I'm currently doing this by listening for
On Friday 19 March 2010 17:21:37 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On March 18, 2010, Rob Hasselbaum wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Marco Martin wrote:
> > > what are you exactly trying to accomplish?
>
> thanks for asking the Right Question(tm) :)
>
> > > usually you shouldn't care of a det
On March 19, 2010, Alessandro Diaferia wrote:
> Me and Marco were thinking about the same. The thing is: this way the Media
> Center (and so, specifically, the MediaContainment) should take care of
> setting a transparent wallpaper?
or just turn off the wallpaper altogether when showing a video.
hi all (and particulaly Marco :)
we pulled out P's old (first gen!) EEE PC and stuck a USB key with the Plasma
Netbook Reference Platform build 18 (pnrp18? :) on it. the good news: it
worked straight out of the box .. er .. usb drive and looks 100x sexier than
what it shipped with. and i ha
2010/3/19 Aaron J. Seigo
> On March 18, 2010, Alessandro Diaferia wrote:
> > Please use reviewboard. I still didn't have a look at the patch but i
> feel
> > reviewboard is much better in order to point out eventual issues. The
> issue
> > with video inside mediacenter is due to Phonon and the Vi
On March 18, 2010, Rob Hasselbaum wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Marco Martin wrote:
> > what are you exactly trying to accomplish?
thanks for asking the Right Question(tm) :)
> > usually you shouldn't care of a detail like that
>
> I have a data engine that pushes data to my applet
On March 18, 2010, Alessandro Diaferia wrote:
> Please use reviewboard. I still didn't have a look at the patch but i feel
> reviewboard is much better in order to point out eventual issues. The issue
> with video inside mediacenter is due to Phonon and the VideoWidget embedded
> inside a QGraphics
On Friday 19 March 2010 16:51:04 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On March 18, 2010, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > It would look like this in the .desktop file then:
> >
> >
> > X-Plasma-Args=http://www.kde.org,#myselector
> >
> >
> >
> > We can pass in those arguments at applet creation and make sure the
>
> On 2010-03-18 10:56:47, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> >
>
> Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> Looks good from my POV, I'd like Aaron to have a look over this as well
> though. If he's OK with it, ship it :)
i think it's an interesting solution to the problem; it's not in the "right"
place (it shoul
On March 18, 2010, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> It would look like this in the .desktop file then:
>
> X-Plasma-Args=http://www.kde.org,#myselector
>
> We can pass in those arguments at applet creation and make sure the
> WebSlice applet does "something" with it.
>
> The mechanism ties in nicely wi
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
>
> I think the heuristics for this would be more complicated, but in general, it
> might
> be a good idea to quiesce dataengines as long as no *visible* applet is
> connected.
>
Yeah, that would be generally useful, although the approac
On Friday 19 March 2010, Alessandro Diaferia wrote:
>
> IIRC applets inside a panel are not reduced to icon if the panel is enough
> big to host their "open-status". Please correct me if I'm wrong.
correct :)
Cheers,
Marco Martin
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> 2010/3/19 Rob Hasselbaum
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Rob Hasselbaum
>> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Sebastian Kügler
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> You can, because you can find out if it's on the desktop by calling
>> formFactor().
>> >>
>>
2010/3/19 Rob Hasselbaum
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Rob Hasselbaum
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Sebastian Kügler
> wrote:
> >>
> >> You can, because you can find out if it's on the desktop by calling
> formFactor().
> >>
> >
> > Ahh, OK, so if the form factor is either
On Friday 19 March 2010 14:54:27 Rob Hasselbaum wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Rob Hasselbaum wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> >> You can, because you can find out if it's on the desktop by calling
> >> formFactor().
> >
> > Ahh, OK, so if the for
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Rob Hasselbaum wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
>>
>> You can, because you can find out if it's on the desktop by calling
>> formFactor().
>>
>
> Ahh, OK, so if the form factor is either Horizontal or Vertical, it's
> guaranteed
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