Re: [PHP] Re: Zend + Eclipse + Standized Framework

2005-11-22 Thread Roman Ivanov
Jochem Maas wrote: > Roman Ivanov wrote: > >> Greg Donald wrote: >> >>> Maybe Zend will get it right where all the previous attempts I've >>> seen/used are less than great. >> >> >> >> Personally, I would start creation of PHP framework by cleaning up PHP >> sytax. It's freakin' impossible to make

Re: [PHP] Re: Zend + Eclipse + Standized Framework

2005-11-22 Thread Jochem Maas
Roman Ivanov wrote: Greg Donald wrote: Maybe Zend will get it right where all the previous attempts I've seen/used are less than great. Personally, I would start creation of PHP framework by cleaning up PHP sytax. It's freakin' impossible to make complex OOP clean: there is plenty wrong w

Re: [PHP] Re: Zend + Eclipse + Standized Framework

2005-11-16 Thread Roman Ivanov
Greg Donald wrote: Maybe Zend will get it right where all the previous attempts I've seen/used are less than great. Personally, I would start creation of PHP framework by cleaning up PHP sytax. It's freakin' impossible to make complex OOP clean: $this->output(array('dir', 'template'), &new B

Re: [PHP] Re: Zend + Eclipse + Standized Framework

2005-11-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, GamblerZG wrote: Convention over configuration. (Yaml, not XML. ActiveRecord not Propel/Phing.) Hard to do in pure PHP. But I tried: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/naturalgine/NECMS_0_3/tools/ori.php?rev=1.1.1.1&view=markup Maybe Zend will get it right where all

Re: [PHP] Re: Zend + Eclipse + Standized Framework

2005-11-15 Thread GamblerZG
Greg Donald wrote: On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 03:55 -0500, Roman Ivanov wrote: What features do you need from a framework? Convention over configuration. (Yaml, not XML. ActiveRecord not Propel/Phing.) Hard to do in pure PHP. But I tried: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/naturalgine/NECM

Re: [PHP] Re: Zend + Eclipse + Standized Framework

2005-11-14 Thread Greg Donald
On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 03:55 -0500, Roman Ivanov wrote: > What features do you need from a framework? Convention over configuration. (Yaml, not XML. ActiveRecord not Propel/Phing.) A persist-able domain model where logic and data are presented in one wrapping. (I don't want to re-assign my data

Re: [PHP] Re: Zend + Eclipse + Standized Framework

2005-11-14 Thread Esteamedpw
_http://andigutmans.blogspot.com/_ (http://andigutmans.blogspot.com/) Andi talks about the Framework on his Blog. - Clint

[PHP] Re: Zend + Eclipse + Standized Framework

2005-11-14 Thread Roman Ivanov
Dan Rossi wrote: Just found this article via phpeclipse.de stating Zend will be including Eclipse framework in their development schedules :) http://www.zend.com/news/zendpr.php?id=109 Id like to know more about this standardized application framework. Me too, considering the fact that I spe

[PHP] Re: Zend + Eclipse + Standized Framework

2005-11-14 Thread Roman Ivanov
Dan Rossi wrote: Personally, i am trying to avoid all these frameworks until everyones ideas are collabroated into one as i think they only work for some or for the developers purposes only. What features do you need from a framework? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsub

[PHP] Re: Zend + Eclipse + Standized Framework

2005-11-14 Thread GamblerZG
Dan Rossi wrote: Personally, i am trying to avoid all these frameworks until everyones ideas are collabroated into one as i think they only work for some or for the developers purposes only. What features do you need from a framework? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsub