Greg Donald wrote:
On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 03:55 -0500, Roman Ivanov wrote:

What features do you need from a framework?

Convention over configuration.  (Yaml, not XML.  ActiveRecord not
Propel/Phing.)

Hard to do in pure PHP. But I tried:

http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/naturalgine/NECMS_0_3/tools/ori.php?rev=1.1.1.1&view=markup

A persist-able domain model where logic and data are presented in one
wrapping.  (I don't want to re-assign my data in the view for use in the
template after it's already ready already in the controller, pointless.)

Don't know what you're talking about. Example?

A database-agnostic database abstraction layer capable of using database
meta data effectively.  (Why am I still writing SQL?)

LOL. What you really want is a built-in high-performance object-oriented database with decent OO interface. So far I hacked this thing, using MySQL:

http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/naturalgine/NECMS_0_3/tools/nodes.php?rev=1.2&view=markup

When I port the whole thing to PHP 5, I will try to make it to use PDO.

Ajax, built-in.  (Cause all the cool kids are using it.)

Will be done some day. Right now, you can use AJAX all you want, but you have to code it yourself.

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