Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-22 Thread Marco Tabini
Hello All-- I'd have to agree with Richard in that there doesn't seem to be a good way to make this idea fly--at the very least, it would be annoying (also because there really is no way to guarantee that the results would be entirely relevant to the contents of the message). I've sent an e-ma

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-22 Thread Richard Baskett
on 10/22/03 13:32, David T-G at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Richard, et al -- > > ...and then Richard Baskett said... > % > % on 10/21/03 16:40, David T-G at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > % > % > ...and then Marco Tabini said... > % > % > % > % php.general for new messages and send back an e-mail

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-22 Thread David T-G
Richard, et al -- ...and then Richard Baskett said... % % on 10/21/03 16:40, David T-G at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % % > ...and then Marco Tabini said... % > % % > % php.general for new messages and send back an e-mail to the list with ... % > % > A nice idea, but terribly difficult to impleme

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Richard Baskett
on 10/21/03 16:40, David T-G at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Marco, et al - > > ...and then Marco Tabini said... > % > % Well, one of my original ideas was to have a process that would monitor > % php.general for new messages and send back an e-mail to the list with > % possible answers based on t

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread David T-G
Marco, et al - ...and then Marco Tabini said... % % Well, one of my original ideas was to have a process that would monitor % php.general for new messages and send back an e-mail to the list with % possible answers based on the message's contents. I'm not sure that % would be a good idea, thou

RE: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Jonathan Villa
ni Cc: PHP-General Subject: Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives --- Marek Kilimajer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My suggestion would be to use iframe for the message. It would load > much faster then. How would that make it load much faster? Surely not becau

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Marek Kilimajer
Chris Shiflett wrote: --- Marek Kilimajer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My suggestion would be to use iframe for the message. It would load much faster then. How would that make it load much faster? Surely not because it requires an additional HTTP transaction, increasing the load. I'm curious to k

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Chris Shiflett
--- Marek Kilimajer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My suggestion would be to use iframe for the message. It would load > much faster then. How would that make it load much faster? Surely not because it requires an additional HTTP transaction, increasing the load. I'm curious to know what you mean.

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Marco Tabini
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, 21 October, 2003 11:59 Subject: Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives - Edwin - wrote: Sort of a PHP-AI eh? :) Hmm... I don't think that's a bad idea at all, but... I wonder how you'd deal with new messages/pos

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread bigdog
> Robert Cummings wrote: >> I think this is great but have one bit of hopefully constructive >> criticism... the horizontal real estate is too small, or the font is >> too large, I find the content wraps terribly :/ >> >> Cheers, >> Rob. >> > > Hi Rob-- > > True. Alas, it has to fit in our design,

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread subs
nterfere with the person doing it." wishy washy | www.amazon.com/o/registry/EGDXEBBWTYUU - Original Message - From: "Marco Tabini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, 21 October, 2003 11:59 Subject: Re: [P

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Marek Kilimajer
Marco Tabini wrote: True. Alas, it has to fit in our design, so one of the possibilities we're experimenting with is using either floating frames for the threading, or reducing the font size--the problem with the latter being that we *do* want people to be able to read the messages ;-) Thanks f

RE: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Chris W. Parker
Marco Tabini on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 9:56 AM said: > True. Alas, it has to fit in our design, so one of the possibilities > we're experimenting with is using either floating frames for the > threading, or reducing the font size--the problem with the latter > bei

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Marco Tabini
Robert Cummings wrote: I think this is great but have one bit of hopefully constructive criticism... the horizontal real estate is too small, or the font is too large, I find the content wraps terribly :/ Cheers, Rob. Hi Rob-- True. Alas, it has to fit in our design, so one of the possibilities

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Robert Cummings
I think this is great but have one bit of hopefully constructive criticism... the horizontal real estate is too small, or the font is too large, I find the content wraps terribly :/ Cheers, Rob. On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 10:07, Marco Tabini wrote: > Hello Everyone-- > > I wanted to let you know abou

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread andu
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Chris Shiflett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps Marco can try an "Ask Jeeves" type of Web app. Is that the sort of > thing you are suggesting? > > So, as another feature of this mailing list archive, there could be a place > where people can ask a ques

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Marco Tabini
Chris Shiflett wrote: Perhaps Marco can try an "Ask Jeeves" type of Web app. Is that the sort of thing you are suggesting? So, as another feature of this mailing list archive, there could be a place where people can ask a question, and Ask Marco will try to come up with some suggested posts to re

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Chris Shiflett
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > However, the only issue with that is that many users do not search the > archives, faqs, or internet for the answers before posting to the list. > This always seems the case. Many users are unaware of the ethics around > mailing lists. I think many users are also una

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Chris Shiflett
Perhaps Marco can try an "Ask Jeeves" type of Web app. Is that the sort of thing you are suggesting? So, as another feature of this mailing list archive, there could be a place where people can ask a question, and Ask Marco will try to come up with some suggested posts to read. This would give peo

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread andu
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:52:53 +0900 - Edwin - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On 2003.10.21, at 23:42 Asia/Tokyo, Marco Tabini wrote: > > >> Nice work, if the list admin would add a link to this archive in the > >> footer (or > >> the header) it would be even useful for new subscribers who

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread bigdog
> - Edwin - wrote: >> >> Sort of a PHP-AI eh? :) Hmm... I don't think that's a bad idea at all, >> but... >> >> I wonder how you'd deal with new messages/posts/questions which: 1. >> Real people don't even understand, and >> 2. Real posters don't even understand what they're asking. >> > > Well,

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread andu
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:48:18 -0400 Marco Tabini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I think the idea is splendid (and new, call it DFAQ (dynamic FAQ)) but as a > > different service than a mailing list. Challenging? > > > > What did you have in mind exactly? How is the FAQ served? Considering t

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Marco Tabini
- Edwin - wrote: Sort of a PHP-AI eh? :) Hmm... I don't think that's a bad idea at all, but... I wonder how you'd deal with new messages/posts/questions which: 1. Real people don't even understand, and 2. Real posters don't even understand what they're asking. Well, that's, of course, a problem

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread - Edwin -
Hi, On 2003.10.21, at 23:42 Asia/Tokyo, Marco Tabini wrote: Nice work, if the list admin would add a link to this archive in the footer (or the header) it would be even useful for new subscribers who don't know of its existence. Well, one of my original ideas was to have a process that would m

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Marco Tabini
I think the idea is splendid (and new, call it DFAQ (dynamic FAQ)) but as a different service than a mailing list. Challenging? What did you have in mind exactly? How is the FAQ served? Marco -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread andu
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:42:25 -0400 Marco Tabini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Nice work, if the list admin would add a link to this archive in the footer > > (or the header) it would be even useful for new subscribers who don't know of > > its existence. > > > > Well, one of my original id

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Marco Tabini
Nice work, if the list admin would add a link to this archive in the footer (or the header) it would be even useful for new subscribers who don't know of its existence. Well, one of my original ideas was to have a process that would monitor php.general for new messages and send back an e-mail to t

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread andu
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:07:28 -0400 Marco Tabini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Everyone-- > > I wanted to let you know about a new initiative that php|architect has > launched: the Searchable PHP Mailing List Archive, which can be found at > http://phparch.com/mailinglists. > > This is a f

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Marco Tabini
I always have trouble searching for stuff with theaimsgroup archive as well. I know what you mean. Google is a good alternative, but they still can't tell between the word PHP and the extension PHP, so that the results aren't always relevant... Cheers, Marco -- php|architect - The Magazine f

RE: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Dan Joseph
Hi, > > I wanted to let you know about a new initiative that php|architect has > > launched: the Searchable PHP Mailing List Archive, which can be > found at > > http://phparch.com/mailinglists. 3 words... YOU DONE GOOD! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscri

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Marco Tabini ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hello Everyone-- > > I wanted to let you know about a new initiative that php|architect has > launched: the Searchable PHP Mailing List Archive, which can be found at > http://phparch.com/mailinglists. > > This is a fully searchable archive of th

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Miles Thompson
V. nice. All the more importnat ot NOT HIJAC threads. Miles At 10:07 AM 10/21/2003 -0400, Marco Tabini wrote: Hello Everyone-- I wanted to let you know about a new initiative that php|architect has launched: the Searchable PHP Mailing List Archive, which can be found at http://phparch.com/mailin

Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread CPT John W. Holmes
From: "Marco Tabini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This is a fully searchable archive of the PHP mailing lists with an > attempt to build proper threading, keyword highlight, automatic quoted > text indentation and a few other features. Everyone go check it out. The thread view and highlighting really ma

[PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives

2003-10-21 Thread Marco Tabini
Hello Everyone-- I wanted to let you know about a new initiative that php|architect has launched: the Searchable PHP Mailing List Archive, which can be found at http://phparch.com/mailinglists. This is a fully searchable archive of the PHP mailing lists with an attempt to build proper threadin