[Pan-users] Is there a "sent" folder for Pan 0.135 (for sending to moderated newsgroups)?

2013-09-25 Thread Rock
A few days ago, I sent an extremely detailed post to a moderated newsgroup. The post hasn't shown up on the moderated newsgroup. If I had the post itself, I could redirect the post to the equivalent non-moderated newsgroup, but, I'd have to research all the details over again (as I did not manual

Re: [Pan-users] How to tell Pan to *stop* constantly asking to install fonts?

2013-07-23 Thread Rock
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 20:27:59 +0200, Rhialto wrote: > if that happens, you would see a newline followed by a tab. I'm a bit confused by the answers, so allow me to reiterate what I understood: a) If a subject line is longer than 80 characters, tabs may be inserted. b) My original subject line was

Re: [Pan-users] How to tell Pan to *stop* constantly asking to install fonts?

2013-07-23 Thread Rock
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:59:45 +, Jim Henderson wrote: > on openSUSE, I have never seen a prompt like that, and I'm pretty sure I > don't have those fonts installed. I see the prompt all the time on CentOS, but, the good news is that the suggested Gnome setting *appears* to have worked to pre

Re: [Pan-users] How to tell Pan to *stop* constantly asking to install fonts?

2013-07-23 Thread Rock
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 13:26:22 +, Duncan wrote: > The /etc/issue and/or /etc/release files Hi Duncan, I had not known about that file, so, here's the cat: $ cat /etc/issue CentOS release 6.4 (Final) Kernel \r on an \m I'm not sure what \r and \m are, but, the Centos part is very clear. __

Re: [Pan-users] How to tell Pan to *stop* constantly asking to install fonts?

2013-07-23 Thread Rock
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 00:34:35 +, Rock wrote: > Shall I move this question over to the Gmane Centos users group? On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 22:00:06 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > Using gconf-editor, unset /apps/gnome-packagekit/enable_font_helper I hadn't even known that existed!

Re: [Pan-users] How to tell Pan to *stop* constantly asking to install fonts?

2013-07-22 Thread Rock
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 00:34:35 +, Rock wrote: > In other words, I'm using Centos 6. This just happened again, so I pressed the "Search" button (which I normally do not do), and this shows the result: http://i41.tinypic.com/fda6mo.jpg ___

Re: [Pan-users] How to tell Pan to *stop* constantly asking to install fonts?

2013-07-22 Thread Rock
esting! I had noted that Firefox and Pan both constantly asked to install fonts, but, I had not noticed that it wasn't Firefox nor Pan doing the asking! $ uname -a Linux Rock 2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu May 16 20:59:36 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux In other words, I'm

[Pan-users] How to tell Pan to *stop* constantly asking to install fonts?

2013-07-22 Thread Rock
Quite a few times a day, even when seemingly doing nothing, Pan 0.135 pops up a form asking me to install fonts: http://i39.tinypic.com/2i7qm2p.png This latest message says: Pan newsreader wants to install fonts Thai Cherokee While Thai and Cherokee are the current request, it seems that va

Re: [Pan-users] Is there an easy way, in Pan 0.135, to delete all threads with a score of 0?

2013-07-21 Thread Rock
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 08:33:48 +0200, Heinrich Müller wrote: > No. But there is an option if you upgrade to the latest version, > auto-actions. Just consult the Preferences section. Thanks. Upgrading to 0.139 would take heroics (on Centos), so, it won't happen until/unless someone updates the repo

[Pan-users] Is there an easy way, in Pan 0.135, to delete all threads with a score of 0?

2013-07-20 Thread Rock
I would like to delete all threads that I haven't participated in. Certainly I select and delete threads manually, but, is there a way to simply delete all threads which I haven't posted to? That is, given I give myself a high score (+1000), is there a way to easily delete all threads which don'

Re: [Pan-users] Is there a way to remap the "Pan File->Send Article" Control+Return hotkey?

2013-07-15 Thread Rock
On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:30:50 +, Duncan wrote: >> I don't remember Pan giving this warning - but - maybe it did, the first >> time, and maybe I told it to go away forever (I don't remember). > > I don't believe pan has such a warning, indeed. Thanks. Had Pan that warning, as does Thunderbird,

Re: [Pan-users] Is there a way to remap the "Pan File->Send Article" Control+Return hotkey?

2013-07-14 Thread Rock
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:16:31 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > don't think there even should be a send-now hotkey. For some reason, I *always* hit control+enger accidentally, while editing, in Pan; but, I don't remember it being a problem in Thunderbird. H... testing ... I just pressed Con

Re: [Pan-users] Is there a way to remap the "Pan File->Send Article" Control+Return hotkey?

2013-07-14 Thread Rock
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:02:35 +, Duncan wrote: > thunderbird ... has ctrl-enter as the send-now hotkey Indeed. There is consistency, and inconsistency, aplenty! For example, in Pan: a) I love the "f" key to follow up on a message b) And, I use the "n" key to read the next unread message Yet,

Re: [Pan-users] Is there a way to remap the "Pan File->Send Article" Control+Return hotkey?

2013-07-10 Thread Rock
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 04:54:53 +, Rock wrote: > (gtk_accel_path "/post/post-article" "z") > When I look at the "File->Send Article" command, this shows up as: > Shift+Ctrl+Alt+Z Hi Duncan & Andreas, Your accels.txt editing suggestion worked li

Re: [Pan-users] Is there a way to remap the "Pan File->Send Article" Control+Return hotkey?

2013-07-10 Thread Rock
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 03:58:15 +, Duncan wrote: > Try something like ... ctrl-alt-shift-z Hi Duncan, Your explanation regarding the special nature of Tab made sense, so, I killed pan, and edited the file to the following: (gtk_accel_path "/post/post-article" "z") When I look at the "File->Se

Re: [Pan-users] Is there a way to remap the "Pan File->Send Article" Control+Return hotkey?

2013-07-10 Thread Rock
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 01:19:32 +, Rock wrote: > e. Try to send this with a control + tab (which should send it). > > Hmmm it did not send the message. Hmmm... Testing the line: (gtk_accel_path "/post/post-article" "") by typing control + tab ... Hmmm... o

Re: [Pan-users] Is there a way to remap the "Pan File->Send Article" Control+Return hotkey?

2013-07-10 Thread Rock
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:29:20 +0200, andreas nastke wrote: > edit $PAN_HOME/.accels.txt Ah, got it. Perfect. I'll change the send command to something I never would hit and test with this message by doing the following: a. Kill pan b. $ vi ~/.pan2/accels.txt Change from: ; (gtk_accel_path

Re: [Pan-users] How would I debug Pan (intermittently) sending posts in triplicate?

2013-07-10 Thread Rock
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:49:27 +, Duncan wrote: > so you have > something to look forward to when you do have a chance to upgrade. No > more having to do the stunnel dance! =:^) Indeed! :) ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://l

Re: [Pan-users] How would I debug Pan (intermittently) sending posts in triplicate?

2013-07-10 Thread Rock
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 08:49:42 +, Duncan wrote: > I'd guess the code for the domain name bit hasn't changed, however, so if > you don't set anything there (as based on your headers seems to be likely > for your gmane posting profile), it should simply take the domain from > your email address

Re: [Pan-users] How would I debug Pan (intermittently) sending posts in triplicate?

2013-07-10 Thread Rock
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 08:49:42 +, Duncan wrote: > there's a lot of other info leakage in the typical headers Hi Duncan, I'm glad you discussed information leakage, as, we all know, it's sad when we give away too much in the quest for answers on USENET. BTW, one way not to leak the Pan user a

Re: [Pan-users] How would I debug Pan (intermittently) sending posts in triplicate?

2013-07-10 Thread Rock
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 08:49:42 +, Duncan wrote: > the message-id generation algorithm has changed > substantially as well. It's no longer just the date and time with a > hopefully unique domain name appended Hi Duncan, Thanks for that interesting update. It would be odd, if all Pan users h

[Pan-users] Is there a way to remap the "Pan File->Send Article" Control+Return hotkey?

2013-07-10 Thread Rock
Q: Can we remap Pan's send-article sequence to something less prone to accidents? I can't count the number of times I've accidentally hit Control+Return while editing a message midway, finding out, much to my chagrin, that this is Pan's unfortunate choice of hotkey sequence to send a message.

Re: [Pan-users] How would I debug Pan (intermittently) sending posts in triplicate?

2013-07-10 Thread Rock
On Tue, 09 Jul 2013 13:54:16 +, Duncan wrote: > FWIW, I used ngrep here, when configuring pan for the new header > compression as well as the secure connections features, to verify that it > was working as intended. (Obviously, ngrep won't yield much of use from > the content of the secur

Re: [Pan-users] How would I debug Pan (intermittently) sending posts in triplicate?

2013-07-09 Thread Rock
On Tue, 09 Jul 2013 13:54:16 +, Duncan wrote: > Of course if pan's not setting the message-ids but instead letting the > server do it, both it and the server have far less to go on when they try > to pick up the pieces from the lost connection. Hi Duncan, Thank you for that excellent and

Re: [Pan-users] How would I debug Pan (intermittently) sending posts in triplicate?

2013-07-09 Thread Rock
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 06:38:50 +, Rock wrote: > The result of those two actions, is a Message-ID generated by Pan > of the following pan.date.time@FQDN format: > Message-ID: Hm gmane obfuscated the FQDN so let me get around that with spaces: Pan created a pan.date.time@FQ

Re: [Pan-users] How would I debug Pan (intermittently) sending posts in triplicate?

2013-07-09 Thread Rock
On Tue, 09 Jul 2013 13:54:16 +, Duncan wrote: > It's worth noting here that in current pan, the option to let the server > assign message-id is gone. Pan always assigns a message-id now, but does > have an option to let you set the domain used in the message-id if you > like. Perhaps this

Re: [Pan-users] How would I debug Pan (intermittently) sending posts in triplicate?

2013-07-09 Thread Rock
On Tue, 09 Jul 2013 13:54:16 +, Duncan wrote: > you can use the "ngrep" tool (homepage http://ngrep/ > sourceforge.net , if you'd like to read a bit about it before > installing...) Hi Duncan, Thanks for that advice. I installed ngrep and am working on understanding how to use it to debug

[Pan-users] How would I debug Pan (intermittently) sending posts in triplicate?

2013-07-08 Thread Rock
Have you ever seen this problem (and do you have insight into the cause)? I'm using Pan 0.135, which is the latest easily possible on Centos6 (long story) and, at times, but only with aioe.org:119, I end up with triplicate posts, each with its own message id, generally sent within the span of a f