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On Jan 23, 2017, at 11:08 AM, Per Hedeland wrote:
>> On 2017-01-23 15:35, Dave wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure if th
I do agree that if gnome-keyring is in the default configuration that it should
either be listed as a dependency, or add --disable-gkr to the default.
Can't really fault the developers for not having multiple virgin machines to
test build upo
hich prompted them
to have something to say. Let the other person say it their way without having
to paraphrase it so the reader knows where you are jumping in.
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ook wants desperately to post in RTF/HTML, which only compounds the
difficulty of effectively editing comments in the middle of reply quotes.
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ho blindly resends this text agrees to pay David
$20." Then point it out after it has been resent a dozen times.
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On Mar 22, 2012, at 10:06 PM, thufir wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:08:27 -0500, David Kelly wrote:
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>> Outlook is a disease where properly formatted replies are almost
>> impossible to create.
>
> I start to see evil MS conspiracies, except that I cannot fathom what
nk we're a bunch of kooks and will continue to
> top-post no matter how much we lecture them, because that's how Outlook and
> web mail works.
Yes, its easy to walk on water when the lake is only 1/2" deep.
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readers from having to work
hard to understand what you are saying and how one got there from here. The
less work your reader has to perform the more brain CPU cycles are available to
understand what you are saying.
Outlook is a disease where properly formatted replies are almost im
heir basic accounts charging extra or not offering news at all. If news
clients all start being pigs in sucking bandwidth then more will drop and the
only options will be paid news servers who will charge for the extra resource
gt; actually prevent Pan 1.0 from finally, finally coming out...?
I want a "DWIM" button for "Do What I Meant (not what I said)". :-)
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acOS X. Yet I still supplement with Terminal.app on Mac.
You know that one can mount a .iso file by double-clicking in MacOS X?
Clearly the solution to mounting .iso files is for everyone to run
MacOS X.
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about
which and what bloat of various Linux distributions has been installed.
And its especially not safe to assume Linux.
Linux-free since 1995! (since 0.99pl13)
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command line parser. You
have to escape the * wildcard filename to tell it what to extract.
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man once taught me to watch for one of the most effective means
of telling a lie: be the first to make the claim then repeat it over and
over to hammer it home. People believe what they repeatedly hear without
thinking. FSF does this by claiming t
ive API, an optional
Linux API to allow use of unmodified Linux binaries. Portions of Linux
code are lifted from Linux to implement this optional kernel module.
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erver, and SVN repository.
Composed and sent via MacOS X.
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BSD and Linux is that in BSD all the kernels are different and
everything else is the same. In Linux all the kernels are the same and
everything else is different."
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f OS.
Just because the reply editor puts the cursor at the top left when one
opens a reply doesn't mean that is where one is to start typing. That is
where one is supposed to start *editing*.
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On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 03:06:45PM +, Duncan wrote:
> David Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri,
> 03 Oct 2008 07:47:24 -0500:
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> > Yes, but one problem is that those who HTML usually don't *see* the
> > point
HTML even when it
appears in the middle of Content-Type: text/plain. So to them it looks
like pretty formatted text rather than the mess it really is.
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On Aug 2, 2008, at 2:21 AM, Duncan wrote:
David Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below,
on Fri,
01 Aug 2008 23:48:25 -0500:
Expect Linux has similar but FreeBSD has per-process limits on
memory.
Default is 512MB. So unless one has a number of pro
cache, its not
sending a delete/kill request to the news server.
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the expense of GUI updates. Guess its
reconciling the list against the list stored on disk, and saving to
disk. When the GUI freezes I notice about 8 MB/sec of disk activity.
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On Jul 31, 2008, at 9:09 PM, Kurt Schilling wrote:
David Kelly wrote:
For FreeBSD in the /usr/ports/news/pan directory change 0.132 to
0.133
and PORTREVISION=0 in Makefile, "rm distinfo", and then the normal
FreeBSD portupgrade or whatever you use will work. It will even
dow
er you use will work. It will even download
the correct file from rebelbase.
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On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:07:09AM -0400, Kurt Schilling wrote:
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> As best I can tell all of the dependencies (-dev) packages have been
> installed.
>
> And then my cousin David Kelly (and how's that for a small world?)
> wrote:
>
> >You know for FreeBSD o
to building on MacOS X. MacOS X
is a recognized card-carrying BSD Unix.
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item on your OS DVD. I forget if there is an option for gcc3
vs gcc4 as my install has both. If one had to chose only one then gcc3
has had the fewest headaches.
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* would be short.
Has anyone else observed the same? Pan 0.131 on FreeBSD 6.2 with the
yencode package from http://www.yencode.org/
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hat the current pan runs in 10% to 15% of the original
memory footprint when dealing with groups in excess of 1E6 messages.
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I expected. Then again the dates on the files at the news
server might have happened to be in the same order as well.
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On Oct 12, 2006, at 7:49 PM, fred wrote:
David Kelly wrote:
Doesn't matter if par2 is cranking its heart out at 25 MB/sec at the
same time as pan is downloading. Pan actually slows par2 which will
usually run at disk speed if it has the drive to itself.
I neglected to mention that th
s the drive to itself.
Have noticed surfing news in pan while downloading can slow download.
Single P4-2.8GHz with HT disabled.
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rest of the multi-part. Could not do this on postings
which pan found all headers. When the headers were incomplete and pan
stopped on an existing header which lacked a body I could click the +
sign to open it up, delete the red-x'ed header, and continue.
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ology). So in summary, it looks nice but isn't much
good if *I* can't figure out the GUI.
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The end result is the same, its just that click-drag is simpler and
widely implemented elsewhere, including most places in old-pan. IIRC
click-drag does not work in old pan's Task Manager list.
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0.14.2.91 and find 2e6 to 2.5e6 messages was
about the limit with a 2GB process size limit. 0.114 is two to three
times more efficient. So at least one "major overhaul" has recently
happened. Thanks Charles!
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the bottom of the queue" does nothing, that the "oldest first"
item which is always initially selected is always used no matter what.
In 0.14 the task queue honored the order one selected the articles in
the header listing. Bottom up, or top down, the first one clicked wa
t it on the first, and it would once again run until
it hit a listed but missing article. Guessing this is how 0.114
behaves with primary and backup servers.
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idth limit experiment. I've seen 50k bytes/sec to 120k bytes/sec
per connection with some news servers.
Both FreeBSD and MacOS X include ipfw as a firewall option. Within
ipfw one may use dummynet for traffic shaping, including bandwidth
limiting.
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much faster and does not crash.
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extract a backtrace.
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e reachable. I get a fair amount of
warnings and "unreachable" and "socket errors" from pan via stderr.
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. The task
manager doesn't indicate which server(s) it is using.
Reliable way to cause a core dump: Download new headers in a group at
the same time delete a block of messages from the same group.
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the compiler looks in
automatically.
There is a term for this sort of behavior, "Linuxism," def'n: Unique
characteristic of Linux which breaks source code on everything else.
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quot; from within X11.app.
Am not sure why I get errors. I thought machine endianness was
something that X11 took care of? Thinking it worked better before
FreeBSD changed to X.org from XFree86.
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servers,
at least for my purposes.
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hich can be found on the slower fallback server.
But if I delete the fallback server how does pan deal with the header
cache? Does it matter if I don't intend to download those articles?
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On Jun 25, 2006, at 4:15 PM, walt wrote:
Artur Jachacy wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:45:11 -0500, David Kelly wrote:
Also note that I said, "localhost" and not 127.0.0.1, as I
configured
it as localhost, not by number, altho both should be the same.
Changing the address to
bably best to skip formal installation/removal/installation
each week. Is that a mistake? Does it need to put stuff other than
where its built in order to run properly?
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this
demonstrates he has his priorities in order. :-)
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be called porti-potti, given the
undisguised opinion of the OS by folks such as myself. =8^P
If the name is to be changed to something other than pan3 or similar,
I lean toward "lid" as in "how do you top a pan?" With a lid of course.
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pan++ or panxx?
How about lid, pot or kettle? :-)
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one.
Maybe to get that far ACLOCALS_FLAGS needed to be set.
After finding those 3 or 4 things I tired of the effort.
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As I mentioned in my previous post the
FreeBSD default is 512 MB per process. Pan2 0.14.2.91 will hit that
at about 700k headers.
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tions MAXDSIZ=(1024UL*1024*1024*2)# 2GB
options MAXSSIZ=(128UL*1024*1024)
options DFLDSIZ=(1024UL*1024*1024*2)# 2GB
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ly *then* remove the stopped task from the
queue.
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