On 12/14/24 3:42 AM, Duncan wrote:
1) Regular minimize. [...]
doesn't replace minimize to system tray
2) Virtual Desktops/workspaces. [...]
unappealing/difficult
2b) Throw money at it with a bigger desktop. [...]
want to but no room
3) Patches. [...]
maybe
I'm back on Slackware 15.1-current (64-bit) but now (in XFCE) there's no
system tray icon, nor can pan close to the system tray. Didn't I or
people have same problem on Debian/Devuan, etc.?
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I used to use four newsservers with Pan. One closed, and another I
stopped paying for because was mostly dead. I suspect Pan kept their
newsrc entries despite I deleted those servers. Would it be possible to
add option to delete newsgroups unlisted in any newsservers one still
uses? I subsc
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 15:40:54 - (UTC), Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 00:19:26 - (UTC), David Chmelik wrote:
>> On each, pan2 removed my newlines and messed up formatting.
I just had this happen again in rec.games.frp.dnd and got rather confused.
> Press 'w&#x
I posted to nntp:alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt in which I had these two
lists (one numbered with two spaces before, and one bulleted with no
spaces before). On each, pan2 removed my newlines and messed up
formatting. When I tried a second time to correct myself, same happened.
I certainly p
On Sun, 05 May 2024 18:17:54 +0200, Dominique Dumont wrote:
> [... While investigating compilation warnings, I've learnt that
> StatusIcon are deprecated [1], so I've removed this feature from pan
> [2].
>
> Actually, I could not see any difference in Pan bevahior after this
> removal.
>
> Please
On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 06:04:21 - (UTC), Duncan wrote:
> dchmelik-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w posted on Fri, 8 Mar 2024 19:44:16 -0800
> as excerpted:
>
>> Lately I could no longer get message headers (on
>> news.eternal-september.org (ES) nor news.gmane.io) (and preferences.xml
>> maybe got corrupted
On 3/8/24 5:49 PM, Duncan wrote:
David Chmelik posted on Fri, 8 Mar 2024 05:19:17 - (UTC) as excerpted:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 21:10:56 + (UTC), Duncan wrote:
As to your question, years ago I was the person who asked to bump the
max cache size from 1 GiB -- I needed 4 GiB at the time and
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 21:10:56 + (UTC), Duncan wrote:
> As to your question, years ago I was the person who asked to bump the
> max cache size from 1 GiB -- I needed 4 GiB at the time and it was
> bumped to 20, which was great.
What size do you recommend if I currently use 1,500+ newsgroups, and
On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 23:05:24 - (UTC), Duncan wrote:
> David Chmelik posted on Sun, 17 Dec 2023 07:32:10 - (UTC) as
> excerpted:
>
>> Every time I select multiple groups I must press the mouse button
>> twice, if not three or four times. Is it set to only acc
On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 11:44:36 +0100, Dominique Dumont wrote:
> On Tuesday, 2 January 2024 08:20:36 CET David Chmelik wrote:
>> Here you go, but I don't think it shows anything I haven't adequately
>> described, just is evidence/proof: http://youtu.be/VfW1V73fzkk .
>
On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 17:45:01 +0200, Dominique Dumont wrote:
> On Wednesday, 4 October 2023 03:00:33 CEST David Chmelik wrote:
>> >> GTK_DEBUG=interactive ./pan/gui/pan
>> > I don't understand that; I don't have the source code unarchived or
>> > compiled
I can no longer can view sent articles selecting them just for many
minutes only shows blank message pane (no headers, nothing). Where can I
find these in ~/.pan2 in case I need to review?
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On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 17:45:01 +0200, Dominique Dumont wrote:
> On Wednesday, 4 October 2023 03:00:33 CEST David Chmelik wrote:
>> >> GTK_DEBUG=interactive ./pan/gui/pan
>> > I don't understand that; I don't have the source code unarchived or
>> > compiled
On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 23:52:29 - (UTC), Duncan wrote:
> Duncan posted on Mon, 28 Aug 2023 12:06:32 - (UTC) as excerpted:
>> David Chmelik posted on Sun, 27 Aug 2023 14:43:08 -0700 as excerpted:
>>> On 8/27/23 8:22 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote:
>>>> On Thursday
This is a new feature/but issue but I have an older, more important thread
that I haven't received instructions what to try next, which was about I
no longer can move any of the panes.
Every time I select multiple groups I must press the mouse button twice,
if not three or four times. Is it se
On 10/16/23 1:07 AM, Duncan wrote:
David Chmelik posted on Sat, 14 Oct 2023 05:03:28 - (UTC) as
excerpted:
I have Slackware64 15+current pan-0.154-x86_64-1 and lately had to
delete most out of ~/.pan2 because of other bugs. All I still have from
there are server configuration and my
I have Slackware64 15+current pan-0.154-x86_64-1 and lately had to delete
most out of ~/.pan2 because of other bugs. All I still have from there
are server configuration and my ~/.newsrc files (linked to there) and
things are almost working okay lately (except for bugs mentioned
previously lik
On 9/9/23 1:00 AM, David Chmelik wrote:
On 9/8/23 9:33 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote:
On Friday, 8 September 2023 09:33:41 CEST David Chmelik wrote:
That's what I originally did. Is there any way I can debug this in pan
0.154.
You can try that:
GTK_DEBUG=interactive ./pan/gui/pan
I
On 9/8/23 9:33 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote:
On Friday, 8 September 2023 09:33:41 CEST David Chmelik wrote:
That's what I originally did. Is there any way I can debug this in pan
0.154.
You can try that:
GTK_DEBUG=interactive ./pan/gui/pan
I don't understand that; I don't have
On 8/28/23 5:06 AM, Duncan wrote:
David Chmelik posted on Sun, 27 Aug 2023 14:43:08 -0700 as excerpted:
On 8/27/23 8:22 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote:
On Thursday, 24 August 2023 04:07:02 CEST David Chmelik wrote:
After Dominique Dumont's help (deleted ~/.pan2/groups) I got pan 0.154
wo
On 8/28/23 5:06 AM, Duncan wrote:
David Chmelik posted on Sun, 27 Aug 2023 14:43:08 -0700 as excerpted:
On 8/27/23 8:22 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote:
On Thursday, 24 August 2023 04:07:02 CEST David Chmelik wrote:
After Dominique Dumont's help (deleted ~/.pan2/groups) I got pan 0.154
wo
On 8/27/23 8:22 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote:
On Thursday, 24 August 2023 04:07:02 CEST David Chmelik wrote:
After Dominique Dumont's help (deleted ~/.pan2/groups) I got pan 0.154
working again without crashing, but now I can't move anything: headers,
sides of pane, etc.
You can re
After Dominique Dumont's help (deleted ~/.pan2/groups) I got pan 0.154
working again without crashing, but now I can't move anything: headers,
sides of pane, etc. I use some groups with long names and long subject
lines so want to move those... currently the date header takes up more
than half
On 7/27/23 9:57 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote:
On Thursday, 27 July 2023 09:40:33 CEST dchme...@gmail.com wrote:
#0 0x76451ae7 in strtoll_l_internal () at /lib64/libc.so.6
#1 0x76444f90 in atoi () at /lib64/libc.so.6
#2 0x00733631 in pan::DataImpl::load_headers(pan::D
On 7/19/23 9:31 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote:
On Thursday, 6 July 2023 10:24:45 CEST dchme...@gmail.com wrote:
Now I compiled 0.154. I don't know that I'll be able to get a
backtrace. Do I need debugging compiled in, and if so, how do I do that
then get the backtrace?
By default, pan is built w
On 7/15/23 8:14 PM, Ed Fletcher wrote:
On 7/15/23 18:25, dchme...@gmail.com wrote:
Pan got upgrade to 0.154 on my OS (Slackware64 15+current GNU/Linux)
but once again I'm only seeing the last header of subject, author,
date, bytes. Someone said the first three disappeared because of a
'race c
On 7/7/23 11:51 AM, reijo.korho...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 2023-07-06 at 01:24 -0700, dchme...@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/8/22 6:07 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote:
On Thursday, 8 September 2022 12:16:10 CEST David Chmelik wrote:
I compiled pan 0.151 but, after starting, quickly got another
On 9/8/22 1:00 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote:
On Thursday, 8 September 2022 01:25:16 CEST David Chmelik wrote:
[...] But you can get tarballs on this gitlabpage:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pan/-/tags
Each version has a button to download source on the right.
For instance:
https
On 9/6/22 1:26 AM, Duncan wrote:
dchmelik-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w posted on Sun, 4 Sep 2022 21:43:11 -0700
as excerpted:
On 9/4/22 5:19 AM, Duncan wrote:
dchmelik-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w posted on Fri, 2 Sep 2022 19:37:53
-0700 as excerpted:
Like for past few years until earlier this year, pan
On 9/3/22 4:00 AM, Rhialto wrote:
On Fri 02 Sep 2022 at 19:37:53 -0700, dchme...@gmail.com wrote:
Like for past few years until earlier this year, pan always crashes fast
again (on Slackware64 15+current GNU/Linux).
Pan always says something like this before crashing: (pan:16759):
Gtk-CRITICAL
Apparently all posts I send to NNTP newsgroups become 'new'/'unread' in my
own sent box but if I post I've already written/read/revised/reread enough
hours of course I've already read! Can't they only show up 'new'/'unread'
in drafts until sent then save in sent box 'read?' Does anyone else ev
If you look at Thunderbird Mail & News, it does some things better than
Pan such as collapsible hierarchies. I use almost 1,000 newsgroups so
it'd be helpful if each (sub)category could be collapsible.
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Usenet may again be a little better than it was in mid-to-late 1990s in
terms of spam--some newsgroups have no spam--but unfortunately once again
others still are almost all spam.
So, I have a large killfile again and will be plonking more advertisers/
pr0n & drug & weapons dealers, trolls, pros
I posted to Usenet alt.comics,alt.comics.fandom,rec.arts.comics.misc
recently.
I edited my post in text editor because after I saved draft in Pan, there
seemed no way to reopen that worked.
Maybe text editor crashed but I ended up using cat & more in shell to
view post then copied & pasted in
On 3/14/22 10:47 PM, David Chmelik wrote:
[...] If I can't extract actually-subscribed groups, I'm not going to
spend days/weeks paging tens/hundreds thousands lines newsgroups to
see which have articles, so may be unable to use NNTP anymore. If I
could only get a user-friend
On 3/14/22 9:58 PM, Duncan wrote:
With that many things going wrong, I'm wondering if your pan config is
corrupted. I'd also check your disk/ssd's SMART report, to be sure that
isn't failing, and run various system diagnostics to be sure you're not
getting power brown-outs and the like, and mayb
Another thing on this sort of topic is apparently I have dozens/hundreds
newsgroups no longer on a server I use, possibly on another server I
used (SDF.) For some reason they're in my main (Eternal-September)
.newsrc. I think I was told refresh the groups list and they'll be
removed, but they
My server list (Edit -> Edit News Servers) has AOIE, Eternal-September,
Gmane, but when I try to post and select one, options are
Eternal-September, Gmane, SDF. I no longer have SDF and don't think I
removed AIOE.
So because I couldn't post that time, I saved a draft, then later looked
in dr
I have Slackware64 15.1+current pan 0.149.
Often (not always) when I restart pan and run it for a while I find
messages I marked as read days ago have been reset marked unread.
Even if I cleanly exit pan then start it some minutes later, it
still happens.
I'm using news.eternal-sept
On 3/5/22 1:55 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote:
On Saturday, 5 March 2022 10:20:03 CET David Chmelik wrote:
[a screenshot]
Looks like the Date column is too wide. Please drag the left of the 'Date'
widget to the right so the other columns are visible.
I know but already explained (in si
I have no no title, author fields; only date. Another problem was those
fields sometimes collapse then only are accessible with tiny lines you
could pull them back out with. Now even those lines are gone. Does it
depend which GTK theme I use? (which GTK version though, and what theme
selecto
On 2/13/22 6:46 AM, Rhialto wrote:
On Sun 13 Feb 2022 at 15:12:44 +0100, Rhialto wrote:
I'm not sure what input it's trying to parse there:
Going by the comments earlier in headers.cc, it's likely to be one of
the files in ~/.pan2/groups. So it's a file that Pan wrote itself.
Somehow it got cor
On 2/12/22 10:46 PM, Detlef Graef wrote:
Am 13.02.22 um 03:28 schrieb David Chmelik:
For a few years every version of Pan 2 on Slackware64 GNU/Linux
15+current has been crashing. I even deleted most my /home/user.pan2
(except subscriptions, like killfile with unicode sometimes crashed
it
For a few years every version of Pan 2 on Slackware64 GNU/Linux
15+current has been crashing. I even deleted most my /home/user.pan2
(except subscriptions, like killfile with unicode sometimes crashed it)
and restarted.
I recompiled according to instructions in libera IRC ##slackware to
ad
because I
have a lot of newsgroups. Could that be too many?
On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 02:31, Dominique Dumont wrote:
> On Tuesday, 28 September 2021 09:59:02 CEST David Chmelik wrote:
> > > Is pan compiled with gtk2 or gtk3 ?
> >
> > Maybe GTK2, but I don't know.
&
On 9/28/21 12:01 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote:
On Tuesday, 28 September 2021 05:42:01 CEST David Chmelik wrote:
For last few versions (including 0.147) pan crashes (on
Slackware64-current) apparently for any GTK theme I use.
Did you compile pan yourself?
no
Is pan compiled with gtk2 or gtk3
For last few versions (including 0.147) pan crashes (on
Slackware64-current) apparently for any GTK theme I use. Will pan be
updated to use newer GTK so it stops crashing? GTK4 is out now (not for
Slackware yet) but I thought just having pan use something newer might
be better... I also read
On 1/23/21 1:33 PM, M.R.P. zensky via Pan-users wrote:
Hello I have pan installed and download headers from a group but when I click
on the post it does not open up so that I can read the article.
I have same problem sometimes or all the time now...
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On 9/1/20 1:06 PM, Zan Lynx wrote:
If you can download the debug package for your distro, or even
download the Pan source and build it for yourself and then get the
crash backtrace, I volunteer to take a look at it.
Thanks, and I tried, but FreeBSD Unix has very special way of
compili
On 9/1/20 1:06 PM, Zan Lynx wrote:
If you can download the debug package for your distro, or even
download the Pan source and build it for yourself and then get the
crash backtrace, I volunteer to take a look at it.
FreeBSD mainly has debugging packages for the entire OS, such as lib32
or lib
g 2020 at 00:38, David Chmelik wrote:
> On 2020-08-19 03:44, Detlef Graef wrote:
> > Please try to run:
> >
> > pan --debug
> https://p.bsd-unix.net/view/9a8b18b1
>
> > or maybe (on FreeBSD) to trace system calls:
> >
> > truss pan
>
> https://p.bsd-
On 2020-08-19 03:44, Detlef Graef wrote:
Please try to run:
pan --debug
https://p.bsd-unix.net/view/9a8b18b1
or maybe (on FreeBSD) to trace system calls:
truss pan
https://p.bsd-unix.net/view/1bb63670
These will expire within a month.
I wonder if my own (incomplete) X pointer theme crash
On 2020-08-19 03:44, Detlef Graef wrote:
Am 19.08.20 um 12:30 schrieb David Chmelik:
Okay, here is some output from trying to run Pan 2 in FreeBSD Unix
KDE5 [...]
Please try to run:
pan --debug
I see that'll end up listing all newsgroups I subscribe to, which I
don't want to do
Okay, here is some output from trying to run Pan 2 in FreeBSD Unix
KDE5. Weird that it'd immediately halt (not even open) Pan for these
reasons, as of course, I don't want audio volume in Pan. On Slackware
GNU/Linux I get a different crash... on TWM, CDE, KDE4, XFCE, MATE, I
get mostly differ
I've used Pan since '00s: best NNTP newsreader ever. However last year
it started crashing for me in KDE5, so I tried TWM, XFCE, MATE... can't
run Pan 2 in anything. I can't run it in regular GNOME (rather than
maybe MATE or compiling Cinnamon) because I use command-line, not an X
display man
I'm used to having a clean .newsrc--only of groups I subscribe to--since
the older days of simpler newsreaders... which everything else I used
wrote such a .newsrc, so it was a useful file (since I discuss elsewhere
what NNTP groups I use, and review/search them in a text editor or
command-line
Lately I've been using KDE5 and Pan doesn't work right with the available
GTK if that's what's used. Only one message pane column is showable at
once, such as subject (what I chose,) sender, date, etc. The rest never
show, even if I select them to be shown.
Is there a way I can get my entire
I'm temporarily trying Pan (with same profile from a working installation
of Pan on other OS) on Kubuntu. I must say it's a poor implementation of
KDE. In this, Pan only shows one message header column (either author,
subject, date, etc.) What can I do about that? It's not a resize issue;
t
On the PAN site, I tried donating (‘tip jar’ to Charles) to support
development, but some days/weeks later, Paypal said it was cancelled...
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