Re: [Pan-users] no system tray icon

2024-12-14 Thread David Chmelik
On 12/14/24 3:42 AM, Duncan wrote: 1) Regular minimize. [...] doesn't replace minimize to system tray 2) Virtual Desktops/workspaces. [...] unappealing/difficult 2b) Throw money at it with a bigger desktop. [...] want to but no room 3) Patches. [...] maybe

[Pan-users] no system tray icon

2024-12-11 Thread David Chmelik
I'm back on Slackware 15.1-current (64-bit) but now (in XFCE) there's no system tray icon, nor can pan close to the system tray. Didn't I or people have same problem on Debian/Devuan, etc.? ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://list

[Pan-users] options to set correct posting profiles and delete groups not on servers

2024-10-30 Thread David Chmelik
I used to use four newsservers with Pan. One closed, and another I stopped paying for because was mostly dead. I suspect Pan kept their newsrc entries despite I deleted those servers. Would it be possible to add option to delete newsgroups unlisted in any newsservers one still uses? I subsc

Re: [Pan-users] pan reformatting my posts

2024-10-20 Thread David Chmelik
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 15:40:54 - (UTC), Jim Henderson wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 00:19:26 - (UTC), David Chmelik wrote: >> On each, pan2 removed my newlines and messed up formatting. I just had this happen again in rec.games.frp.dnd and got rather confused. > Press 'w&#x

[Pan-users] pan reformatting my posts

2024-06-10 Thread David Chmelik
I posted to nntp:alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt in which I had these two lists (one numbered with two spaces before, and one bulleted with no spaces before). On each, pan2 removed my newlines and messed up formatting. When I tried a second time to correct myself, same happened. I certainly p

Re: [Pan-users] Removed deprecated StatusIcon

2024-06-08 Thread David Chmelik
On Sun, 05 May 2024 18:17:54 +0200, Dominique Dumont wrote: > [... While investigating compilation warnings, I've learnt that > StatusIcon are deprecated [1], so I've removed this feature from pan > [2]. > > Actually, I could not see any difference in Pan bevahior after this > removal. > > Please

Re: [Pan-users] no longer get message bodies

2024-03-10 Thread David Chmelik
On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 06:04:21 - (UTC), Duncan wrote: > dchmelik-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w posted on Fri, 8 Mar 2024 19:44:16 -0800 > as excerpted: > >> Lately I could no longer get message headers (on >> news.eternal-september.org (ES) nor news.gmane.io) (and preferences.xml >> maybe got corrupted

Re: [Pan-users] article cache size

2024-03-08 Thread David Chmelik
On 3/8/24 5:49 PM, Duncan wrote: David Chmelik posted on Fri, 8 Mar 2024 05:19:17 - (UTC) as excerpted: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 21:10:56 + (UTC), Duncan wrote: As to your question, years ago I was the person who asked to bump the max cache size from 1 GiB -- I needed 4 GiB at the time and

Re: [Pan-users] article cache size

2024-03-07 Thread David Chmelik
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 21:10:56 + (UTC), Duncan wrote: > As to your question, years ago I was the person who asked to bump the > max cache size from 1 GiB -- I needed 4 GiB at the time and it was > bumped to 20, which was great. What size do you recommend if I currently use 1,500+ newsgroups, and

Re: [Pan-users] number of times one has to press to select multiple groups

2024-01-21 Thread David Chmelik
On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 23:05:24 - (UTC), Duncan wrote: > David Chmelik posted on Sun, 17 Dec 2023 07:32:10 - (UTC) as > excerpted: > >> Every time I select multiple groups I must press the mouse button >> twice, if not three or four times. Is it set to only acc

Re: [Pan-users] can't move anything

2024-01-02 Thread David Chmelik
On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 11:44:36 +0100, Dominique Dumont wrote: > On Tuesday, 2 January 2024 08:20:36 CET David Chmelik wrote: >> Here you go, but I don't think it shows anything I haven't adequately >> described, just is evidence/proof: http://youtu.be/VfW1V73fzkk . >

Re: [Pan-users] can't move anything

2024-01-01 Thread David Chmelik
On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 17:45:01 +0200, Dominique Dumont wrote: > On Wednesday, 4 October 2023 03:00:33 CEST David Chmelik wrote: >> >> GTK_DEBUG=interactive ./pan/gui/pan >> > I don't understand that; I don't have the source code unarchived or >> > compiled

[Pan-users] no longer can view sent articles

2023-12-31 Thread David Chmelik
I can no longer can view sent articles selecting them just for many minutes only shows blank message pane (no headers, nothing). Where can I find these in ~/.pan2 in case I need to review? ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists

Re: [Pan-users] can't move anything

2023-12-31 Thread David Chmelik
On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 17:45:01 +0200, Dominique Dumont wrote: > On Wednesday, 4 October 2023 03:00:33 CEST David Chmelik wrote: >> >> GTK_DEBUG=interactive ./pan/gui/pan >> > I don't understand that; I don't have the source code unarchived or >> > compiled

Re: [Pan-users] can't move anything

2023-12-23 Thread David Chmelik
On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 23:52:29 - (UTC), Duncan wrote: > Duncan posted on Mon, 28 Aug 2023 12:06:32 - (UTC) as excerpted: >> David Chmelik posted on Sun, 27 Aug 2023 14:43:08 -0700 as excerpted: >>> On 8/27/23 8:22 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote: >>>> On Thursday

[Pan-users] number of times one has to press to select multiple groups

2023-12-16 Thread David Chmelik
This is a new feature/but issue but I have an older, more important thread that I haven't received instructions what to try next, which was about I no longer can move any of the panes. Every time I select multiple groups I must press the mouse button twice, if not three or four times. Is it se

Re: [Pan-users] articles don't stay marked read

2023-10-16 Thread David Chmelik
On 10/16/23 1:07 AM, Duncan wrote: David Chmelik posted on Sat, 14 Oct 2023 05:03:28 - (UTC) as excerpted: I have Slackware64 15+current pan-0.154-x86_64-1 and lately had to delete most out of ~/.pan2 because of other bugs. All I still have from there are server configuration and my

[Pan-users] articles don't stay marked read

2023-10-13 Thread David Chmelik
I have Slackware64 15+current pan-0.154-x86_64-1 and lately had to delete most out of ~/.pan2 because of other bugs. All I still have from there are server configuration and my ~/.newsrc files (linked to there) and things are almost working okay lately (except for bugs mentioned previously lik

Re: [Pan-users] can't move anything

2023-10-03 Thread David Chmelik
On 9/9/23 1:00 AM, David Chmelik wrote: On 9/8/23 9:33 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote: On Friday, 8 September 2023 09:33:41 CEST David Chmelik wrote: That's what I originally did.  Is there any way I can debug this in pan 0.154. You can try that: GTK_DEBUG=interactive ./pan/gui/pan I

Re: [Pan-users] can't move anything

2023-09-09 Thread David Chmelik
On 9/8/23 9:33 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote: On Friday, 8 September 2023 09:33:41 CEST David Chmelik wrote: That's what I originally did. Is there any way I can debug this in pan 0.154. You can try that: GTK_DEBUG=interactive ./pan/gui/pan I don't understand that; I don't have

Re: [Pan-users] can't move anything

2023-09-08 Thread David Chmelik
On 8/28/23 5:06 AM, Duncan wrote: David Chmelik posted on Sun, 27 Aug 2023 14:43:08 -0700 as excerpted: On 8/27/23 8:22 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote: On Thursday, 24 August 2023 04:07:02 CEST David Chmelik wrote: After Dominique Dumont's help (deleted ~/.pan2/groups) I got pan 0.154 wo

Re: [Pan-users] can't move anything

2023-08-28 Thread David Chmelik
On 8/28/23 5:06 AM, Duncan wrote: David Chmelik posted on Sun, 27 Aug 2023 14:43:08 -0700 as excerpted: On 8/27/23 8:22 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote: On Thursday, 24 August 2023 04:07:02 CEST David Chmelik wrote: After Dominique Dumont's help (deleted ~/.pan2/groups) I got pan 0.154 wo

Re: [Pan-users] can't move anything

2023-08-27 Thread David Chmelik
On 8/27/23 8:22 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote: On Thursday, 24 August 2023 04:07:02 CEST David Chmelik wrote: After Dominique Dumont's help (deleted ~/.pan2/groups) I got pan 0.154 working again without crashing, but now I can't move anything: headers, sides of pane, etc. You can re

[Pan-users] can't move anything

2023-08-23 Thread David Chmelik
After Dominique Dumont's help (deleted ~/.pan2/groups) I got pan 0.154 working again without crashing, but now I can't move anything: headers, sides of pane, etc. I use some groups with long names and long subject lines so want to move those... currently the date header takes up more than half

Re: [Pan-users] pan always crashing fast again

2023-07-27 Thread David Chmelik
On 7/27/23 9:57 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote: On Thursday, 27 July 2023 09:40:33 CEST dchme...@gmail.com wrote: #0 0x76451ae7 in strtoll_l_internal () at /lib64/libc.so.6 #1 0x76444f90 in atoi () at /lib64/libc.so.6 #2 0x00733631 in pan::DataImpl::load_headers(pan::D

Re: [Pan-users] pan always crashing fast again

2023-07-24 Thread David Chmelik
On 7/19/23 9:31 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote: On Thursday, 6 July 2023 10:24:45 CEST dchme...@gmail.com wrote: Now I compiled 0.154. I don't know that I'll be able to get a backtrace. Do I need debugging compiled in, and if so, how do I do that then get the backtrace? By default, pan is built w

Re: [Pan-users] no header columns again

2023-07-15 Thread David Chmelik
On 7/15/23 8:14 PM, Ed Fletcher wrote: On 7/15/23 18:25, dchme...@gmail.com wrote: Pan got upgrade to 0.154 on my OS (Slackware64 15+current GNU/Linux) but once again I'm only seeing the last header of subject, author, date, bytes.  Someone said the first three disappeared because of a 'race c

Re: [Pan-users] pan always crashing fast again

2023-07-11 Thread David Chmelik
On 7/7/23 11:51 AM, reijo.korho...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2023-07-06 at 01:24 -0700, dchme...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/8/22 6:07 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote: On Thursday, 8 September 2022 12:16:10 CEST David Chmelik wrote: I compiled pan 0.151 but, after starting, quickly got another

Re: [Pan-users] [ANNOUNCE] Pan release 0.152

2022-11-12 Thread David Shochat
On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 8:57 AM Dominique Dumont wrote: > > Hi > > I happy to announce the release of Pan 0.152 codename "Mariupol" > > Pan is a powerful and user-friendly Usenet newsreader for GTK+. > > The main points of this release are: > - Gtk2 is removed from Pan. Only Gtk3 is working. >

Re: [Pan-users] pan always crashing fast again

2022-09-08 Thread David Chmelik
On 9/8/22 1:00 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote: On Thursday, 8 September 2022 01:25:16 CEST David Chmelik wrote: [...] But you can get tarballs on this gitlabpage: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pan/-/tags Each version has a button to download source on the right. For instance: https

Re: [Pan-users] pan always crashing fast again

2022-09-07 Thread David Chmelik
On 9/6/22 1:26 AM, Duncan wrote: dchmelik-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w posted on Sun, 4 Sep 2022 21:43:11 -0700 as excerpted: On 9/4/22 5:19 AM, Duncan wrote: dchmelik-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w posted on Fri, 2 Sep 2022 19:37:53 -0700 as excerpted: Like for past few years until earlier this year, pan

Re: [Pan-users] pan always crashing fast again

2022-09-03 Thread David Chmelik
On 9/3/22 4:00 AM, Rhialto wrote: On Fri 02 Sep 2022 at 19:37:53 -0700, dchme...@gmail.com wrote: Like for past few years until earlier this year, pan always crashes fast again (on Slackware64 15+current GNU/Linux). Pan always says something like this before crashing: (pan:16759): Gtk-CRITICAL

[Pan-users] haven't read your own sent messages?

2022-08-02 Thread David Chmelik
Apparently all posts I send to NNTP newsgroups become 'new'/'unread' in my own sent box but if I post I've already written/read/revised/reread enough hours of course I've already read! Can't they only show up 'new'/'unread' in drafts until sent then save in sent box 'read?' Does anyone else ev

[Pan-users] collapsible hierarchies?

2022-07-21 Thread David Chmelik
If you look at Thunderbird Mail & News, it does some things better than Pan such as collapsible hierarchies. I use almost 1,000 newsgroups so it'd be helpful if each (sub)category could be collapsible. ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org

[Pan-users] error: plonked posters posts' showing up as new

2022-03-19 Thread David Chmelik
Usenet may again be a little better than it was in mid-to-late 1990s in terms of spam--some newsgroups have no spam--but unfortunately once again others still are almost all spam. So, I have a large killfile again and will be plonking more advertisers/ pr0n & drug & weapons dealers, trolls, pros

[Pan-users] copy/paste from cat/more to Pan post format errors

2022-03-19 Thread David Chmelik
I posted to Usenet alt.comics,alt.comics.fandom,rec.arts.comics.misc recently. I edited my post in text editor because after I saved draft in Pan, there seemed no way to reopen that worked. Maybe text editor crashed but I ended up using cat & more in shell to view post then copied & pasted in

[Pan-users] user-friendly .newsrc

2022-03-15 Thread David Chmelik
On 3/14/22 10:47 PM, David Chmelik wrote: [...] If I can't extract actually-subscribed groups, I'm not going to spend days/weeks paging tens/hundreds thousands lines newsgroups to see which have articles, so may be unable to use NNTP anymore.  If I could only get a user-friend

Re: [Pan-users] server list broken

2022-03-14 Thread David Chmelik
On 3/14/22 9:58 PM, Duncan wrote: With that many things going wrong, I'm wondering if your pan config is corrupted. I'd also check your disk/ssd's SMART report, to be sure that isn't failing, and run various system diagnostics to be sure you're not getting power brown-outs and the like, and mayb

Re: [Pan-users] server list broken

2022-03-14 Thread David Chmelik
Another thing on this sort of topic is apparently I have dozens/hundreds newsgroups no longer on a server I use, possibly on another server I used (SDF.)  For some reason they're in my main (Eternal-September) .newsrc.  I think I was told refresh the groups list and they'll be removed, but they

[Pan-users] server list broken, can't save/reopen drafts right

2022-03-14 Thread David Chmelik
My server list (Edit -> Edit News Servers) has AOIE, Eternal-September, Gmane, but when I try to post and select one, options are Eternal-September, Gmane, SDF.  I no longer have SDF and don't think I removed AIOE. So because I couldn't post that time, I saved a draft, then later looked in dr

[Pan-users] messages marked unread again

2022-03-13 Thread David Chmelik
I have Slackware64 15.1+current pan 0.149.     Often (not always) when I restart pan and run it for a while I find messages I marked as read days ago have been reset marked unread.     Even if I cleanly exit pan then start it some minutes later, it still happens.     I'm using news.eternal-sept

Re: [Pan-users] no title, author fields

2022-03-05 Thread David Chmelik
On 3/5/22 1:55 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote: On Saturday, 5 March 2022 10:20:03 CET David Chmelik wrote: [a screenshot] Looks like the Date column is too wide. Please drag the left of the 'Date' widget to the right so the other columns are visible. I know but already explained (in si

[Pan-users] no title, author fields

2022-03-04 Thread David Chmelik
I have no no title, author fields; only date.  Another problem was those fields sometimes collapse then only are accessible with tiny lines you could pull them back out with.  Now even those lines are gone.  Does it depend which GTK theme I use? (which GTK version though, and what theme selecto

Re: [Pan-users] [ANNOUNCE] Pan release 0.150

2022-02-26 Thread David Shochat
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 10:02 AM Dominique Dumont wrote: > > Hi > > I'm happy to announce Pan 0.150 "Moucherotte" > ... I built this on my ubuntu 21.10 system (default configure options). It seems to function normally for reading, but I saw many of the following in the shell window where I launche

[Pan-users] choosing right servers and removing inaccessible groups? (was: debugging? (segmentation fault))

2022-02-16 Thread David Chmelik
On 2/13/22 6:46 AM, Rhialto wrote: On Sun 13 Feb 2022 at 15:12:44 +0100, Rhialto wrote: I'm not sure what input it's trying to parse there: Going by the comments earlier in headers.cc, it's likely to be one of the files in ~/.pan2/groups. So it's a file that Pan wrote itself. Somehow it got cor

Re: [Pan-users] debugging? (segmentation fault)

2022-02-12 Thread David Chmelik
On 2/12/22 10:46 PM, Detlef Graef wrote: Am 13.02.22 um 03:28 schrieb David Chmelik: For a few years every version of Pan 2 on Slackware64 GNU/Linux 15+current has been crashing.  I even deleted most my /home/user.pan2 (except subscriptions, like killfile with unicode sometimes crashed it

[Pan-users] debugging? (segmentation fault)

2022-02-12 Thread David Chmelik
For a few years every version of Pan 2 on Slackware64 GNU/Linux 15+current has been crashing.  I even deleted most my /home/user.pan2 (except subscriptions, like killfile with unicode sometimes crashed it) and restarted.     I recompiled according to instructions in libera IRC ##slackware to ad

Re: [Pan-users] [ANNOUNCE] Pan release 0.148

2021-10-24 Thread David Shochat
On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 4:12 AM Dominique Dumont wrote: > You can get Pan 0.148 release tarball on Gnome's gitlab: > - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pan/-/tags/v0.148 I can't find a tarball there. ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https:

Re: [Pan-users] 0.147 does not work with secure nntp server settings

2021-10-09 Thread David Shochat
> 0.147 does not work for me with a secure nntp set as in I think you need the configure option --with-gnutls for that. ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users

Re: [Pan-users] pan 0.147 crashes

2021-10-03 Thread David Chmelik
because I have a lot of newsgroups. Could that be too many? On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 02:31, Dominique Dumont wrote: > On Tuesday, 28 September 2021 09:59:02 CEST David Chmelik wrote: > > > Is pan compiled with gtk2 or gtk3 ? > > > > Maybe GTK2, but I don't know. &

Re: [Pan-users] pan 0.147 crashes

2021-09-28 Thread David Chmelik
On 9/28/21 12:01 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote: On Tuesday, 28 September 2021 05:42:01 CEST David Chmelik wrote: For last few versions (including 0.147) pan crashes (on Slackware64-current) apparently for any GTK theme I use. Did you compile pan yourself? no Is pan compiled with gtk2 or gtk3

[Pan-users] pan 0.147 crashes

2021-09-27 Thread David Chmelik
For last few versions (including 0.147) pan crashes (on Slackware64-current) apparently for any GTK theme I use.  Will pan be updated to use newer GTK so it stops crashing?  GTK4 is out now (not for Slackware yet) but I thought just having pan use something newer might be better... I also read

Re: [Pan-users] Unable to read article in pan

2021-01-23 Thread David Chmelik
On 1/23/21 1:33 PM, M.R.P. zensky via Pan-users wrote: Hello I have pan installed and download headers from a group but when I click on the post it does not open up so that I can read the article. I have same problem sometimes or all the time now... ___

Re: [Pan-users] can you run Pan 2 on anything but GNOME/Linux? (and how to donate?)

2020-09-07 Thread David Chmelik
On 9/1/20 1:06 PM, Zan Lynx wrote: If you can download the debug package for your distro, or even download the Pan source and build it for yourself and then get the crash backtrace, I volunteer to take a look at it.     Thanks, and I tried, but FreeBSD Unix has very special way of compili

Re: [Pan-users] can you run Pan 2 on anything but GNOME/Linux? (and how to donate?)

2020-09-02 Thread David Chmelik
splay all of the function calls that lead to the current program execution. "thread apply all" applies the next command to every thread in the program. So it makes a backtrace report for each thread. "info local" is often not useful because of optimization, but it tries to displa

Re: [Pan-users] can you run Pan 2 on anything but GNOME/Linux? (and how to donate?)

2020-08-26 Thread David Chmelik
g 2020 at 00:38, David Chmelik wrote: > On 2020-08-19 03:44, Detlef Graef wrote: > > Please try to run: > > > > pan --debug > https://p.bsd-unix.net/view/9a8b18b1 > > > or maybe (on FreeBSD) to trace system calls: > > > > truss pan > > https://p.bsd-

Re: [Pan-users] can you run Pan 2 on anything but GNOME/Linux? (and how to donate?)

2020-08-22 Thread David Chmelik
On 2020-08-19 03:44, Detlef Graef wrote: Please try to run: pan --debug https://p.bsd-unix.net/view/9a8b18b1 or maybe (on FreeBSD) to trace system calls: truss pan https://p.bsd-unix.net/view/1bb63670 These will expire within a month. I wonder if my own (incomplete) X pointer theme crash

Re: [Pan-users] can you run Pan 2 on anything but GNOME/Linux? (and how to donate?)

2020-08-19 Thread David Chmelik
On 2020-08-19 03:44, Detlef Graef wrote: Am 19.08.20 um 12:30 schrieb David Chmelik: Okay, here is some output from trying to run Pan 2 in FreeBSD Unix KDE5 [...] Please try to run: pan --debug I see that'll end up listing all newsgroups I subscribe to, which I don't want to do

Re: [Pan-users] can you run Pan 2 on anything but GNOME/Linux? (and how to donate?)

2020-08-19 Thread David Chmelik
Okay, here is some output from trying to run Pan 2 in FreeBSD Unix KDE5.  Weird that it'd immediately halt (not even open) Pan for these reasons, as of course, I don't want audio volume in Pan.  On Slackware GNU/Linux I get a different crash... on TWM, CDE, KDE4, XFCE, MATE, I get mostly differ

[Pan-users] can you run Pan 2 on anything but GNOME/Linux? (and how to donate?)

2020-08-17 Thread David Chmelik
I've used Pan since '00s: best NNTP newsreader ever.  However last year it started crashing for me in KDE5, so I tried TWM, XFCE, MATE... can't run Pan 2 in anything.  I can't run it in regular GNOME (rather than maybe MATE or compiling Cinnamon) because I use command-line, not an X display man

Re: [Pan-users] Pan not launchiing

2020-05-31 Thread David Shochat
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 12:45 PM Beartooth wrote: > > > On one of my machines, running Fedora 32 fully updated, when I > try to launch Pan I get a spinner, which stops after a minute, and then > nothing. I would: 1. Use ps to make sure you don't have an old pan process that's getting in t

[Pan-users] clean .newsrc? (subscribed groups only?)

2020-04-15 Thread David Chmelik
I'm used to having a clean .newsrc--only of groups I subscribe to--since the older days of simpler newsreaders... which everything else I used wrote such a .newsrc, so it was a useful file (since I discuss elsewhere what NNTP groups I use, and review/search them in a text editor or command-line

Re: [Pan-users] Signature in Pan

2020-03-30 Thread David Shochat
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:10 PM M.R.P. zensky via Pan-users wrote: > > Hello does anyone know how I can create a signature with pan? When you create or edit a posting profile (Edit->Edit Posting Profiles), there is an option to add a signature. This is in pan 0.145. _

Re: [Pan-users] No second chance

2019-10-29 Thread David Shochat
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 7:15 AM Dieter Britz wrote: > > I run pan under Kubuntu 18.04. If I get out of pan after a > session, I can't bring it up again, neither by clicking on the > icon, nor typing in "pan" into the console. For that, I get > the message > > Added 0 files to the queue. Exiting. >

[Pan-users] a couple Pan problems/questions (KDE5 display, getting .newsrc)

2019-06-18 Thread David Chmelik
Lately I've been using KDE5 and Pan doesn't work right with the available GTK if that's what's used. Only one message pane column is showable at once, such as subject (what I chose,) sender, date, etc. The rest never show, even if I select them to be shown. Is there a way I can get my entire

[Pan-users] Pan stops showing more than one message header column

2018-11-05 Thread David Chmelik
I'm temporarily trying Pan (with same profile from a working installation of Pan on other OS) on Kubuntu. I must say it's a poor implementation of KDE. In this, Pan only shows one message header column (either author, subject, date, etc.) What can I do about that? It's not a resize issue; t

[Pan-users] can't donate to support PAN development?

2018-10-20 Thread David Chmelik
On the PAN site, I tried donating (‘tip jar’ to Charles) to support development, but some days/weeks later, Paypal said it was cancelled... ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users

Re: [Pan-users] Pan over SSH tunnel?

2018-01-04 Thread David Melik
On Fri, 05 Jan 2018 06:38:27 +, David Melik wrote: > > Okay, I mis-explained, and am not going to get used to Gmane's 'user at > host rewrites.' Again, above, it was at sdf.org & news.sdf.org (not > gmane.org,) and that happened once, but it's also &#

Re: [Pan-users] Pan over SSH tunnel?

2018-01-04 Thread David Melik
On Fri, 05 Jan 2018 05:28:25 +, David Melik wrote: > On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 16:29:31 +, Jim Henderson wrote: >>>On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 09:08:49 +, David Melik wrote: >>> No; Gmane altered what I wrote: I did not write 'user-7kjJCDAAYRIdnm >>> +yrof...@pub

[Pan-users] Re (2: ) Pan over SSH tunnel?

2018-01-04 Thread David Melik
On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 16:29:31 +, Jim Henderson wrote: >>On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 09:08:49 +, David Melik wrote: >> No; Gmane altered what I wrote: I did not write 'user-7kjJCDAAYRIdnm >> +yrof...@public.gmane.org,' but (with spaces in >> between) it was 'ss

Re: [Pan-users] Pan over SSH tunnel?

2018-01-03 Thread David Melik
On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 09:08:49 +, David Melik wrote: > > No; Gmane altered what I wrote: I did not write 'user-7kjJCDAAYRIdnm > +yrof...@public.gmane.org,' but (with spaces in > between) it was 'ssh -D -p 22 user @ news . sdf . org.' > > This page d

Re: [Pan-users] Pan over SSH tunnel?

2018-01-03 Thread David Melik
On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 05:08:34 +, Jim Henderson wrote: > On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 01:37:41 +0000, David Melik wrote: > >> I read Usenet, Gmane, want to add SDF over SSH tunnel. The tunnel >> works (like ssh -D -p 22 >> u...@ma.sdf.org,) so I added >> news.sdf

[Pan-users] Pan over SSH tunnel?

2018-01-02 Thread David Melik
I read Usenet, Gmane, want to add SDF over SSH tunnel. The tunnel works (like ssh -D -p 22 u...@ma.sdf.org,) so I added news.sdf.org:, but their groups don't appear from refresh. SDF.org just says it's possible (or with their VPN,) not how. __

[Pan-users] edit ignored thread list?

2017-11-27 Thread David Melik
How do you see/edit the ignored threads list? I'm reading about 200 newsgroups, including one or two pretty full of foreign-language marketing/religious spam (most don't have any spam nowadays) and accidentally ignored several threads, instead of authors, and perhaps some, accidentally, which

Re: [Pan-users] selecting more groups?

2017-11-12 Thread David Melik
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 04:04:11 +, Duncan wrote: > David Melik posted on Mon, 13 Nov 2017 00:43:23 + as excerpted: > >> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 08:47:51 +, Duncan wrote: [...] >>> Both shift-click (left, no idea where you got shift-right-click) and >>> ctr

Re: [Pan-users] selecting more groups?

2017-11-12 Thread David Melik
On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 08:47:51 +, Duncan wrote: > David Melik posted on Sat, 11 Nov 2017 05:28:44 + as excerpted: > >> Isn't there a way to select many groups at once? The standard multi- >> selection shortcut such as in file managers is then arrow or >>

[Pan-users] selecting more groups?

2017-11-10 Thread David Melik
Isn't there a way to select many groups at once? The standard multi- selection shortcut such as in file managers is then arrow or right mouse button. Recently someone spammed most of around 200 groups I'm in, and at other times, I'd want to mark something from maybe 1/3 to 90% my groups read,

Re: [Pan-users] show quoted text?

2017-09-24 Thread David Melik
On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 15:53:52 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 04:04:32AM +0000, David Melik wrote: >> Many articles I read say 'quoted text muted.' Is there no option to >> display it in every article by default? > > View > Body

Re: [Pan-users] selecting correct posting profile?

2017-09-24 Thread David Melik
On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 07:29:38 +, Mateusz Viste wrote: > On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 04:06:24 +0000, David Melik wrote: >> So, currently I post to both Usenet and Gmane which is great. It's a >> little weird I have to manually select the second posting profile in >> the

[Pan-users] selecting correct posting profile?

2017-09-23 Thread David Melik
So, currently I post to both Usenet and Gmane which is great. It's a little weird I have to manually select the second posting profile in the list every time posting in Gmane (otherwise get an 'error') though Pan already of course has the record that all the Gmane groups are on the Gmane serve

[Pan-users] get new headers regularly?

2017-09-23 Thread David Melik
Isn't there something you can set (possibly for each server) like 'get new headers every n minutes,' and n might have some default (60, 30, 15, whatever?) Or, do you have to wait all day, then realize maybe there are a lot of new posts you hadn't got notification for, finally check it manually

[Pan-users] show quoted text?

2017-09-23 Thread David Melik
Many articles I read say 'quoted text muted.' Is there no option to display it in every article by default? ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users

Re: [Pan-users] user interface problem

2017-09-23 Thread David Melik
On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 19:35:47 +, Duncan wrote: > Dave posted on Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:13:12 + as excerpted: > >> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:04:30 +, David Melik wrote: >> >>> When you select something with the mouse and a menu comes up, you're >&g

Re: [Pan-users] Pan doesn't usually minimize to system tray

2017-09-23 Thread David Melik
On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 00:47:49 +, Duncan wrote: > Duncan posted on Sat, 23 Sep 2017 19:19:42 + as excerpted: > >> 3) For pan's irregular behavior closing the main pan window via tray >> icon when the window is open, the explanation is simple. It depends on >> whether that window is active

[Pan-users] Pan doesn't usually minimize to system tray

2017-09-23 Thread David Melik
Pan doesn't usually minimize to system tray. Minimizing it *never* disappears it from the taskbar/panel. I have to select the system tray icon instead, and that only minimizes it maybe 5% to 10% of tries. ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu

[Pan-users] user interface problem

2017-09-22 Thread David Melik
When you select something with the mouse and a menu comes up, you're supposed to have different keys do different things. It's wrong design that in the menu for a newsgroup, 'h' is three options, which makes 'h' not do one of the options, just cycle through the list. The other two need differ

[Pan-users] bug saving headers?

2017-09-22 Thread David Melik
I'm getting into using Pan instead of Thunderbird (except email) as Pan seems more like Free Agent, which I used in the 1990s. However, I'm having to (re)learn many things. I've been checking 150+ newsgroups on Usenet and Gmane, but some on Usenet, Pan asks me to get the headers over and over

Re: [Pan-users] delete deleted groups?

2017-09-22 Thread David Melik
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 07:23:13 +, David Melik wrote: > I'd subscribed to several old Usenet alt.* groups now apparently deleted > from the newsserver (Eternal September)... can't Pan delete deleted > groups when the groups list is refreshed, or is there at least another >

[Pan-users] delete deleted groups?

2017-09-22 Thread David Melik
I'd subscribed to several old Usenet alt.* groups now apparently deleted from the newsserver (Eternal September)... can't Pan delete deleted groups when the groups list is refreshed, or is there at least another option? ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan

Re: [Pan-users] set colours?

2017-09-22 Thread David Melik
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 18:24:55 +, Duncan wrote: > Mateusz Viste posted on Wed, 20 Sep 2017 15:23:03 + as excerpted: > >> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:29:03 +, David Melik wrote: >>> Hi, this is my first article with Pan. However, I'd like to be able >>> t

[Pan-users] set colours?

2017-09-20 Thread David Melik
Hi, this is my first article with Pan. However, I'd like to be able to control colours more, to set more dark/black when reading/posting on Usenet/etc. at night. Is there a way? (some don't seem modifiable) Either changing some/all manually, or being able to choose (and write, in Pan!) your o

Re: [Pan-users] Pan rules/filters

2017-01-23 Thread David Kelly
-- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. On Jan 23, 2017, at 11:08 AM, Per Hedeland wrote: >> On 2017-01-23 15:35, Dave wrote: >> >> I'm not sure if th

Re: [Pan-users] 0.140 Don't bother it won't compile on less than *buntu 16.04 or better

2016-11-18 Thread David Shochat
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 00:10:48 +, DLSauers wrote: > If you want TLS or well, pretty much any thing to work in Pan 0.140, > don't waste your time. > > It WONT compile on anything less than 16.04. > It does build satisfactorily (with TLS) on 16.10. I do see that you said "less than 16.04" so I

[Pan-users] Score file - Pan 0.140 Windows - obsolete article scores

2016-08-16 Thread David
Looking at this because scoring rules are beginning to behave strangely - for example "Ignore" rules are beginning to be ignored, and "Watch" rule disappear when I respond to a watched thread. My Score file is nearly 200 kB which may or may not be the problem. Looking at the first few entries o

Re: [Pan-users] Emails

2015-05-23 Thread David Shochat
(replying off-list) Got to this page. https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users The unsubscribe instructions are at the bottom of the page. If someone else has already responded, I apologize for the duplication. -- David On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Dieter Britz wrote: > Ca

Re: [Pan-users] Port 119 blocked - no newsgroup access!

2015-05-23 Thread David Shochat
On Sat, 23 May 2015 11:15:21 +, Maurice wrote: > On Fri, 22 May 2015 17:26:00 +0000, David Shochat wrote: > >> think you missed a key part of what Duncan posted: > > I didn't, actually. > It's just that as a Mageia user I use the Mageia version, which >

Re: [Pan-users] Port 119 blocked - no newsgroup access!

2015-05-22 Thread David Shochat
On Fri, 22 May 2015 17:18:35 +, Maurice wrote: > On Fri, 22 May 2015 16:36:43 +, Duncan wrote: > >> Edit > Edit News Servers > [select server, gmane in this case] > Edit > >> Security > TLS (SSL) settings > Use Secure SSL Connections. > > Edit News Servers shows no Security option for

[Pan-users] gmail thinks my posts are spam

2014-04-23 Thread David Shochat
I'm seeing some odd behavior on the part of gmail. Although I usually post to this group using pan itself, with gmane.comp.gnome.apps.pan.user, I also subscribe to it as a mailing list using my gmail account. Lately, gmail has been marking all my posts as spam, even though I keep clicking the "

Re: [Pan-users] Pan on Ubuntu 14.04

2014-04-23 Thread David Shochat
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:21:08 -0700, walt wrote: > > Hi David. From your headers I can see you're running the same version > of pan.git that I'm using. > > I'm seeing a bug that very rarely halts pan with a "corrupted > doubly-linked list" error, and I

Re: [Pan-users] Pan on Ubuntu 14.04

2014-04-23 Thread David Shochat
the version that comes with Ubuntu (which does not support SSL). So I ran it using /usr/local/bin/pan I am using that version to post this. I can see from the server configuration screen that secure connection is now offered, but I have not yet tested it

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