Re: [Pan-users] In the new file-upload logic, we need to change how Pan apparently slices the binary data…

2011-07-03 Thread Heinrich Mueller
On 07/03/11 19:22, SciFi wrote: The actual binary data needs to be split _before_ it is encoded (before uuencoded, before yEncoded, before MIME'd, etc.) or in the view of the end-user/downloader, _after_ decoding. Well, normally the uploader does that by rar-ing and splitting the files he wants

Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On 07/03/2011 10:27 AM, Heinrich Mueller wrote: On 07/03/11 13:03, Duncan wrote: Looking at HMueller's git logs, I'm guessing he had no clue on pan's history and GNKSA when he did the following commit (log excerpt, there was more to the commit but this is the pertinent part for us): [snip] B

[Pan-users] HNKSA (was Re: Policy discussion: GNKSA)

2011-07-03 Thread Ron Johnson
After reading your email, I've come to the conclusion that Windows Live Mail wins the Horrible Net Keeping Seal of Approval for the abominable way that it quotes in reply messages. (Yes, I top-posted, bit since I'm changing topic, that's OK.) On 07/03/2011 01:35 PM, Travis wrote: -Origi

[Pan-users] Connection "knee" Was: Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-03 Thread Duncan
Alan Meyer posted on Sun, 03 Jul 2011 11:27:25 -0700 as excerpted: > I'd be in favor of keeping the GNKSA seal of approval and, as some > others have said, four connections is plenty for me. > > I'd also be curious to know where the knee of the curve is on > connections. Even assuming infinite c

Re: [Pan-users] [OT] Compiling question for KHaley and Heinrich (and everybody)

2011-07-03 Thread walt
On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 02:04:28 +, Duncan wrote: > FWIW, while I'm gradually getting more comfortable with git, since I'm on > Gentoo I was able to "cheat" on this, by looking at what the gentoo > git-2.eclass ebuild helper library did. Never occurred to me to read it, but I woulda-coulda-should

Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-03 Thread Duncan
Heinrich Mueller posted on Sun, 03 Jul 2011 17:27:36 +0200 as excerpted: > On 07/03/11 13:03, Duncan wrote: >> Looking at HMueller's git logs, I'm guessing he had no clue on pan's >> history and GNKSA when he did the following commit (log excerpt, there >> was more to the commit but this is the pe

Re: [Pan-users] New file posting feature, broken? Misunderstood?

2011-07-03 Thread Duncan
Heinrich Mueller posted on Sun, 03 Jul 2011 18:17:08 +0200 as excerpted: > Should be this: > https://github.com/imhotep82/pan2/tree/merge_with_lostcoder_testing. OK, thanks. =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use th

Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-03 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/03/2011 12:54 PM, Rob wrote: Maybe the spec could be updated. Maybe it's time for it to just be retired. A little bit of work found an email address for one of the (then) maintainers, j...@gnksa.org. I've sent an email asking for feedback on this subject and will act as a liaison betw

Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-03 Thread Rob
On Sunday 03 July 2011 14:02, Joe Zeff wrote: > I agree about keeping the GNKSA stamp, but have a > question: how old is the GNKSA standard, and how long has it been since > it's been updated? GNKSA 2.0 is the latest version, and hasn't been updated since 2003. The last evaluation they have on

Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-03 Thread Travis
-Original Message- From: Alan Meyer Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 11:27 AM To: pan-users@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA I'd be in favor of keeping the GNKSA seal of approval and, as some others have said, four connections is plenty for me. I'd also be curious

Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-03 Thread Alan Meyer
I'd be in favor of keeping the GNKSA seal of approval and, as some others have said, four connections is plenty for me. I'd also be curious to know where the knee of the curve is on connections. Even assuming infinite capacity computers, there are still potentially two throttles in place on downl

Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-03 Thread Travis
-Original Message- From: George Czerw Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 8:01 AM To: pan-users@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA On Sunday, July 03, 2011 10:37:03 am Travis wrote: -Original Message- From: Duncan Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 4:03 AM To: pan-use

Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-03 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/03/2011 08:01 AM, George Czerw wrote: I agree with Travis, keep the GNKSA stamp. I can't imagine why anyone would really NEED more than 4 connections. I only use Pan for text groups, so I've no need for multiple connections. I agree about keeping the GNKSA stamp, but have a question: h

[Pan-users] In the new file-upload logic, we need to change how Pan apparently slices the binary data…

2011-07-03 Thread SciFi
Hi, I'm contemplating the file-upload feature being put into Pan. I'm speaking for use in the way how massive binary files are being uploaded to the world-wide Usenet, their actual expected formats & usages etc. It seems this new Pan feature is doing a similar thing that the yencee project was

Re: [Pan-users] New file posting feature, broken? Misunderstood?

2011-07-03 Thread Heinrich Mueller
On 07/03/11 12:02, Duncan wrote: Heinrich Mueller posted on Sun, 03 Jul 2011 10:23:31 +0200 as excerpted: On 07/03/11 01:21, Duncan wrote: Heinrich Mueller posted on Sat, 02 Jul 2011 09:24:41 +0200 as excerpted: Well, I did a merge, but it still gives me segfaults when I try to delete an art

Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-03 Thread Heinrich Mueller
On 07/03/11 13:03, Duncan wrote: Looking at HMueller's git logs, I'm guessing he had no clue on pan's history and GNKSA when he did the following commit (log excerpt, there was more to the commit but this is the pertinent part for us): commit 9f3b662bb94474c833a0c1af4d1a265e83279cd1 Author: Hein

Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-03 Thread Duncan
Rhialto posted on Sun, 03 Jul 2011 15:35:32 +0200 as excerpted: > On Sun 03 Jul 2011 at 13:21:27 +, Duncan wrote: >> Rhialto posted on Sun, 03 Jul 2011 15:09:22 +0200 as excerpted: >> >> > On Sun 03 Jul 2011 at 11:03:41 +, Duncan wrote: >> >> So I'd prefer to keep the 4-connections GUI ca

Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-03 Thread George Czerw
> On Sunday, July 03, 2011 10:37:03 am Travis wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Duncan > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 4:03 AM > To: pan-users@nongnu.org > Subject: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA > > Looking at HMueller's git logs, I'm guessing he had no clue on pan's > history and G

Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-03 Thread Travis
-Original Message- From: Duncan Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 4:03 AM To: pan-users@nongnu.org Subject: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA Looking at HMueller's git logs, I'm guessing he had no clue on pan's history and GNKSA when he did the following commit (log excerpt, there was more

Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-03 Thread Rhialto
On Sun 03 Jul 2011 at 13:21:27 +, Duncan wrote: > Rhialto posted on Sun, 03 Jul 2011 15:09:22 +0200 as excerpted: > > > On Sun 03 Jul 2011 at 11:03:41 +, Duncan wrote: > >> So I'd prefer to keep the 4-connections GUI cap and the 100% GNKSA seal > >> of approval, but it's nothing I feel inc

Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-03 Thread Duncan
Rhialto posted on Sun, 03 Jul 2011 15:09:22 +0200 as excerpted: > On Sun 03 Jul 2011 at 11:03:41 +, Duncan wrote: >> So I'd prefer to keep the 4-connections GUI cap and the 100% GNKSA seal >> of approval, but it's nothing I feel incredibly strongly about, >> certainly not like top posting or H

Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-03 Thread Rhialto
On Sun 03 Jul 2011 at 11:03:41 +, Duncan wrote: > So I'd prefer to keep the 4-connections GUI cap and the 100% GNKSA seal > of approval, but it's nothing I feel incredibly strongly about, certainly > not like top posting or HTML or the like. I tend to agree. And it's an easy enough change to

[Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-03 Thread Duncan
Looking at HMueller's git logs, I'm guessing he had no clue on pan's history and GNKSA when he did the following commit (log excerpt, there was more to the commit but this is the pertinent part for us): commit 9f3b662bb94474c833a0c1af4d1a265e83279cd1 Author: Heinrich Müller Date: Mon Jun 27 1

Re: [Pan-users] New file posting feature, broken? Misunderstood?

2011-07-03 Thread Duncan
Heinrich Mueller posted on Sun, 03 Jul 2011 10:23:31 +0200 as excerpted: > On 07/03/11 01:21, Duncan wrote: >> Heinrich Mueller posted on Sat, 02 Jul 2011 09:24:41 +0200 as >> excerpted: >> >>> Well, I did a merge, but it still gives me segfaults when I try to >>> delete an article. (Both the pure

Re: [Pan-users] New file posting feature, broken? Misunderstood?

2011-07-03 Thread Heinrich Mueller
On 07/03/11 01:21, Duncan wrote: Heinrich Mueller posted on Sat, 02 Jul 2011 09:24:41 +0200 as excerpted: Well, I did a merge, but it still gives me segfaults when I try to delete an article. (Both the pure testing branch and the merged one). Since I haven't done the binary groups in awhile (a