On 09/29/2009 Matej Cepl wrote:
You F10 is going to die soon anyway, is F11 really so bad that you
wouldn't try an upgrade to F11?
I'm not an "early adopter," preferring to wait until the last-minute
bugs are cleaned up. F 11 is still giving people fits (as judged by
fedorafourms, at least)
walt posted on Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:54:03 + as excerpted:
> Given what I've read about the alpha quality of the kde4 'releases' I
Grrr!! I'm a kde guy and kde4 is only /now/, with 4.3, getting to the
late beta stage, where I'd even /begin/ to consider it usable, and I
should know, as I run
Joe Zeff posted on Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:47:52 -0700 as excerpted:
> On 09/29/2009 David Kelly wrote:
>> I want a "DWIM" button for "Do What I Meant (not what I said)". :-)
>
> I'd be happy if it had a "Back" button. Hell, I'd be estatic if you
> could tell it that messages with a score of "Ignor
Joe Zeff posted on Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:55:59 -0700 as excerpted:
> On 09/29/2009 Alan Meyer wrote:
>> On my system having that box checked caused Pan to spend as much as six
>> hours loading a very large newsgroup from memory, and catching up a
>> week or so worth of headers. Unchecking the box r
Jim Henderson posted on Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:28:19 + as excerpted:
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:17:26 -0400, Wayne E. Nail wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 21:40 +, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> showstoppers
>>
>>> Posting attachments, completing the scoring/rules engine?
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>
Joe Zeff, Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:55:59 -0700:
> I made the mistake of experimenting with the Assitive Technologies on
> Fedora 10 and got the same result. I think there were one or two other
> programs affected, but the problem with Pan was the most pronounced.
I had always AT switched off, but my w
On 09/29/2009 Alan Meyer wrote:
On my system having that box checked caused Pan to spend as much
as six hours loading a very large newsgroup from memory, and
catching up a week or so worth of headers. Unchecking the box
reduced the time to a minute or two.
I made the mistake of experimenting w
On 09/29/2009 David Kelly wrote:
I want a "DWIM" button for "Do What I Meant (not what I said)". :-)
I'd be happy if it had a "Back" button. Hell, I'd be estatic if you
could tell it that messages with a score of "Ignore" were to be
automatically marked as Read.
--
Joe Zeff
If you can't p
On Tue, 9/29/09, Charles Kerr wrote:
> ...
> Other than the GMime update to fix multipart messages -- which
> is already in K Haley's repo -- are there any honest-to-God
> showstoppers left? Not feature requests, tweaks, or whatnot,
> but things that would actually prevent Pan 1.0 from finally,
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:17:26 -0400, Wayne E. Nail wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 21:40 +, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> showstoppers
>
>> Posting attachments, completing the scoring/rules engine?
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
> At the risk of introducing something completely outside the spirit of
> this updat
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 21:40 +, Jim Henderson wrote:
> showstoppers
> Posting attachments, completing the scoring/rules engine?
>
> Jim
>
At the risk of introducing something completely outside the spirit of
this update...
... does 'posting attachments' refer to the ability to post binaries
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:47:16 -0500, Charles Kerr wrote:
> ...
> Other than the GMime update to fix multipart messages -- which is
> already in K Haley's repo -- are there any honest-to-God showstoppers
> left?...
Given what I've read about the alpha quality of the kde4 'releases' I
don't know if
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:47:16 -0500, Charles Kerr wrote:
> A few posts back I mentioned that I don't remember what the remaining
> checklist items were before this 43-release-long beta series finally
> goes stable.
>
> I doubt anyone -- except maybe Duncan -- remembers, and whatever they
> were, I
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:04:20 +, Matej Cepl wrote:
[snipperoo]
> c) don't plan Great Changes at all anyway; I think that unfortunately
> whole idea of newsgroups got much less popular lately and people seem to
> prefer such idiotical places for communication as web-fora, facebooks
> an
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:27:12 -0500, Charles Kerr wrote:
> I've gotten my git account refreshed at gnome.org and have started
> committing changes for 0.134. :)
Best news in ages! Strength to your arm!
[snipperoo : technicalia over my head]
[snipperee]
> Another model,
Hi!
Charles Kerr, Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:41:47 -0500:
> On 09/29/2009 02:36 PM, Petr Kovar wrote:
>
> > However, it's obviously up to the Pan's main author to decide in which
> > way he wants the Pan docs to be distributed, that is, whether to
> > distribute simple HTML files linked (most likely) f
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 02:47:16PM -0500, Charles Kerr wrote:
>
> Other than the GMime update to fix multipart messages -- which is
> already in K Haley's repo -- are there any honest-to-God showstoppers
> left? Not feature requests, tweaks, or whatnot, but things that would
> actually prevent Pa
A few posts back I mentioned that I don't remember what the
remaining checklist items were before this 43-release-long
beta series finally goes stable.
I doubt anyone -- except maybe Duncan -- remembers, and
whatever they were, I wonder if they're dusty enough to be
outweighed by the fact that mo
On 09/29/2009 02:36 PM, Petr Kovar wrote:
However, it's obviously up to the Pan's main author to decide in which way
he wants the Pan docs to be distributed, that is, whether to distribute
simple HTML files linked (most likely) from the Pan's Help menu, or whether
to use the approach common amon
Hi!
Duncan, Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:09:40 + (UTC):
> Jeff Berman posted on Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:33:44 -0700 as excerpted:
>
> > Hey, didn't someone put together a documentation wiki of sorts for Pan?
> > Seems that would be the place to put it. And if Pan's "About" window
> > linked to the wiki,
Jeff Berman, Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:45:16 -0700:
> I'm surprised there hasn't been more uptake by others in fixing bugs and
> adding features. In my mind Pan is the best newsreader out there. I
> wonder what news reader all the Linux-using C++ developers are using
> (and contributing to)?
slrn? ema
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:59:13 +, Duncan wrote:
> I know I'm late to the party, it's already done and everyone's gone
> home, so to speak, but a couple thoughts, anyway...
Same here - it does strike me that the new 0.13x series is a complete
rewrite, let's not completely rewrite pan again in a
On Mon 28 Sep 2009 at 16:25:26 -0700, walt wrote:
> That's where M$ has the real advantage -- every programmer is working
> with the same infrastructure, for better or worse.
We that is not entirely true. In a previous life I worked for a
company that did stuff for MSWindows, and I noticed
On 09/29/2009 03:59 AM, Duncan wrote:
Steven D'Aprano posted on Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:11:01 +1000 as excerpted:
Separation of the back-end from the front-end is a perfectly sensible
idea. It's only the use of Java as the default front-end which I object
to.
2) (More in general.) Now I /did/
Jeff Berman posted on Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:33:44 -0700 as excerpted:
> Hey, didn't someone put together a documentation wiki of sorts for Pan?
> Seems that would be the place to put it. And if Pan's "About" window
> linked to the wiki, that would be nice.
Yes, I strongly agree and in fact was jus
Steven D'Aprano posted on Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:11:01 +1000 as excerpted:
> Separation of the back-end from the front-end is a perfectly sensible
> idea. It's only the use of Java as the default front-end which I object
> to.
I know I'm late to the party, it's already done and everyone's gone home,
walt, Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:45:50 -0700:
> So -- why not implement the pan GUI in java and let each platform deal
> with the optimized c++ part in its own way (already done)?
Because it is insane ... show me one nice Java GUI program which isn't an
insane memory hog.
Do you remember those days whe
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