[Pan-users] Re: freeze, high CPU getting new headers

2008-08-05 Thread walt
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:56:39 +, Matthijs Benschop wrote: > Op Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:58:21 +, schreef walt: > > >> Have you used strace before? It's pretty simple to run, not so easy to >> interpret the output sometimes... > Okay, done that. The output is at > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~be

[Pan-users] Re: OT: English [was Re: Re: freeze, high CPU getting new headers]

2008-08-05 Thread Duncan
walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:31:26 +: > Still, it was a practice up with which she did not put. I see that in > my last reply to Duncan I typed "it's" to indicate the possessive. One > more whack on the knuckles for me. Most of t

[Pan-users] Re: OT: English [was Re: Re: freeze, high CPU getting new headers]

2008-08-05 Thread Duncan
Joe Zeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:35:26 -0700: > You are right, however, that it's wrong, a sentence to end, a > preposition with. I never groked this particular part (referring to the subthread) of English (or apparently, enough Engl

Re: [Pan-users] Re: freeze, high CPU getting new headers

2008-08-05 Thread David Shochat
I've stopped, backtraced, continued, many times (during the freeze) and the following is typical. Program received signal SIGINT, Interrupt. 0xb7abba62 in g_type_check_instance_is_a () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (gdb) bt #0 0xb7abba62 in g_type_check_instance_is_a () from /usr/lib/lib

[Pan-users] Re: freeze, high CPU getting new headers

2008-08-05 Thread Greg Lee
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:46:32 +, Duncan wrote: > GL's suggestion, I think, was that it was just taking the time to sort > all those headers, and there wasn't a lot that could be done about it. Yes, I think Pan needs the time, but that doesn't quite mean there's no fix. If the problem is the

Re: [Pan-users] Re: freeze, high CPU getting new headers

2008-08-05 Thread David Shochat
[ I thought I had made this reply to the list, but I now realize I sent it only to walt. This web mail doesn't seem to honor Reply-To. So, try again... ] Quoting walt: On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:46:32 +, Duncan wrote: ... GL's suggestion, I think, was that it was just taking the time to s

[Pan-users] Re: OT: English [was Re: Re: freeze, high CPU getting new headers]

2008-08-05 Thread Greg Lee
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:35:26 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > Better, of course, would be to say, "Look, lady, in that context, it's > not a preposition, it's a particle and there's nothing wrong with ending > a sentence with a particle. You are right, however, that it's wrong, a > sentence to end, a pr

[Pan-users] Re: OT: English [was Re: Re: freeze, high CPU getting new headers]

2008-08-05 Thread walt
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:56:03 +, Greg Lee wrote: > ...The sentence of mine that you > incorrectly criticized is like that -- "pan" is a noun phrase consisting > of the single proper noun "pan". Okay, okay, both of you are correct -- your sentence was grammatically correct and that particular '

[Pan-users] Re: freeze, high CPU getting new headers

2008-08-05 Thread Matthijs Benschop
Op Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:58:21 +, schreef walt: > Have you used strace before? It's pretty simple to run, not so easy to > interpret the output sometimes. Example: use 'top' to find the process > that's using up the cpu, and then start strace like this: #strace -p > pid-of-greedy-process > a

Re: OT: English [was Re: [Pan-users] Re: freeze, high CPU getting new headers]

2008-08-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/05/2008 Steven D'Aprano wrote: [...] > > (Oh crap, now my old teacher > > would whack my knuckles for ending a sentence with a preposition.) I hope you would say, "Listen up you old biddy, if ending sentences with prepositions was good enough for Chaucer, Shakespeare and Milton, to say

[Pan-users] Re: OT: English [was Re: Re: freeze, high CPU getting new headers]

2008-08-05 Thread Greg Lee
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:31:26 +, walt wrote: > 4. (Gram.) The noun to which a relative refers; as, in the > sentence "Solomon was the prince who built the temple," prince is the > antecedent of who. > [1913 Webster] That is not a great definition for grammatical antecedent, since it (the de

Re: [Pan-users] Re: OT: English [was Re: Re: freeze, high CPU getting new headers]

2008-08-05 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:31:26 am walt wrote: > I see that in > my last reply to Duncan I typed "it's" to indicate the possessive. > One more whack on the knuckles for me. Heh, I can agree with that one. My wife is constantly throwing things at me for making the same mistake :-) -- Steven __

[Pan-users] Re: OT: English [was Re: Re: freeze, high CPU getting new headers]

2008-08-05 Thread walt
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:06:41 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:35:51 am walt wrote: >> ... >> My old 7th grade English teacher would now rap you on your knuckles >> with a ruler, shouting "Antecedent! Antecedent!" > Antecedent? As in, "A preceding occurrence or cause or even

[Pan-users] Re: freeze, high CPU getting new headers

2008-08-05 Thread walt
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:46:32 +, Duncan wrote: > ... > GL's suggestion, I think, was that it was just taking the time to sort > all those headers, and there wasn't a lot that could be done about it. > I don't believe that's the case, because it's not behaving that way for > everyone, and where

OT: English [was Re: [Pan-users] Re: freeze, high CPU getting new headers]

2008-08-05 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:35:51 am walt wrote: > On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:03:33 +, Greg Lee wrote: > > On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:58:21 +, walt wrote: > >> ... Because pan is stuck in a loop somewhere, ... > > > > In my opinion, you guys are spinning your wheels. Because pan is > > not stuck (if I'