Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Lance Corrimal
Am Dienstag, 18. Januar 2011 schrieb Kent Quirk (Q Linden): > It's not gonna be a debug setting. The information's available to > put it on a HUD if you care. We're pulling the feature and > simplifying the viewer. then how about getting rid of all the extra and superfluous information that the

Re: [opensource-dev] SOCIAL-452 - new size of web profile floater

2011-01-18 Thread Erin Mallory
PRE-CREATION > indra/newview/skins/default/xui/en/floater_save_layout.xml PRE-CREATION > indra/newview/skins/default/xui/en/menu_viewer.xml 422f636c3343 > indra/newview/skins/default/xui/en/notifications.xml 422f636c3343 > > Diff: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/98/diff > &g

Re: [opensource-dev] SOCIAL-452 - new size of web profile floater

2011-01-18 Thread SuezanneC Baskerville
erlayouts.h PRE-CREATION > > indra/newview/llfloaterlayouts.cpp PRE-CREATION > > indra/newview/llsidetray.h 422f636c3343 > > indra/newview/llsidetray.cpp 422f636c3343 > > indra/newview/llviewerfloaterreg.cpp 422f636c3343 > > indra/newview/llviewermenu.cpp 422f636c3343 &

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: VWR-24321: Validate textures starting with 00 too.

2011-01-18 Thread Cron Stardust
> On Jan. 18, 2011, 12:09 p.m., Merov Linden wrote: > > indra/newview/lltexturecache.cpp, line 1595 > > > > > > validate_idx being used in a test later, it's not just for > > (validate_idx == 0) that the behavior will b

[opensource-dev] Storm-236 extra eyes needed.(please forgive for lenght)

2011-01-18 Thread WolfPup Lowenhar
I'll apologize in advanced for length of this email but I need some extra eyes on the code for this Diff to show changes being made(also the reason for the length of email): diff --git a/indra/newview/llbottomtray.cpp b/indra/newview/llbottomtray.cpp --- a/indra/newview/llbottomtray.cpp +

Re: [opensource-dev] SOCIAL-452

2011-01-18 Thread Erin Mallory
For what its worth i agree. the floater is too big. so is the layout on the profiles. both could be shrunk a bit to make it more usable. but what concerns me is the viewer hanging every time the web profiles are open... which i think is a viewer issue... Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:23:40 +

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: VWR-24321: Validate textures starting with 00 too.

2011-01-18 Thread Aleric Inglewood
> On Jan. 18, 2011, 12:09 p.m., Merov Linden wrote: > > indra/newview/lltexturecache.cpp, line 1595 > > > > > > validate_idx being used in a test later, it's not just for > > (validate_idx == 0) that the behavior will b

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: make PREHASH variables char const* const

2011-01-18 Thread Aleric Inglewood
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/100/#review196 --- Ship it! I love it! Thanks, this was stopped me from compiling th

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Carlo Wood
Delete! On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:22:45AM -0500, Kent Quirk (Q Linden) wrote: > Hi, folks. I've just commented on STORM-243, which requests that we have Yet > Another Option to allow suppression of the toast that tells you the simulator > version changed when you changed to a new region. > >

Re: [opensource-dev] Link times

2011-01-18 Thread Aleric Inglewood
I can confirm that. I'm using a RAM disk (0.08ms random access time) and that does indeed drop link time significantly (I measured 8 seconds for viewer 1, not sure how long it is for viewer 2). ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: ht

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Tateru Nino
Then can we have some sort of method by which we can turn arbitrary viewer events into popups? Or would I be wasting my time with that? On 19/01/2011 8:58 AM, Sarah (Esbee) Kuehnle wrote: The data is available via LSL - llGetEnv() . If you think about i

Re: [opensource-dev] Link times

2011-01-18 Thread Kadah
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On windows I found that raiding 2 SSDs drops link times to negligible levels for full links on 2.4, <1 minute. Normally my links are well over 20 minutes on the same system running compile from disk based raid10. On 1/14/2011 9:04 AM, Jonathan Welch w

Re: [opensource-dev] SOCIAL-452

2011-01-18 Thread Hitomi Tiponi
oops - apologies for adding on the entire opensource-dev mail in my last message. Forgot to cut it out. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before po

Re: [opensource-dev] SOCIAL-452 - new size of web profile floater

2011-01-18 Thread Hitomi Tiponi
.xml PRE-CREATION > indra/newview/skins/default/xui/en/menu_viewer.xml 422f636c3343 > indra/newview/skins/default/xui/en/notifications.xml 422f636c3343 > > Diff: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/98/diff > > > Testing > --- > > > Thanks, > > A

[opensource-dev] VS 2010 Express Build of Imprudence 1.4.0

2011-01-18 Thread Nicky Perian
Cross posting to IMPDEV and SLDEV lists. Visual Studio Express 2010 build of Imprudence 1.4.0 is branched as impvc100 at g...@github.com:NickyPerian/imprudence.git . To complete the build cmake needs to be at version 2.8.1. Kitware corrected a bug related to VS2010 at 2.8.1 and it came back in t

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Latif Khalifa
Making the server version notifications feature disabled by default, but keeping the option to enable it with more debug info in it accomplishes the both sides nicely. It doesn't confuse the casual user and it helps a pro make SL better. Removing stuff just for the sake of simplicity, without cons

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Sarah (Esbee) Kuehnle
The data is available via LSL - llGetEnv(). If you think about it, it makes much more sense for this to be a HUD for Residents who are interested in the information. For casual Second Life users, this information creates additional notification pop-ups and

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Liny Odell
So LL is wanting those that want to know that they have enterd a region running a different sim version to wear an object with yet another script on their av? I have two words to say about that :"script limits", and I'm going to leave it at that (there is already enough discussion about it elsewher

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Latif Khalifa
For the record: +1 for making it optional, with a debug setting default to off. The viewer has such wonderful instrumentation and debug facilities. Removing them in the name of "simplifying" is a big mistake in my opinion. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Kent Quirk (Q Linden) wrote: > It's n

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Erin Mallory
I can live with that. I got much more important features /design issues to fight over. :) > From: q...@lindenlab.com > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:37:34 -0500 > To: liny.od...@phoenixviewer.com > CC: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com > Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator vers

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Stickman
> simplifying the viewer. Is this the answer to my question about the ultimate direction LL is taking for the official client? Stickman ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
It's not gonna be a debug setting. The information's available to put it on a HUD if you care. We're pulling the feature and simplifying the viewer. On Jan 18, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Liny Odell wrote: > Make that +2 for a debug setting > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Trilo Byte wrote: >> +1 f

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Liny Odell
Make that +2 for a debug setting On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Trilo Byte wrote: > +1 for making it a debug setting (to choose whether you see notifications). > > The server version info would still be available in Help -> About as well as > World -> Place Profile -> Region/Estate > On Jan 18,

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Trilo Byte
+1 for making it a debug setting (to choose whether you see notifications). The server version info would still be available in Help -> About as well as World -> Place Profile -> Region/Estate On Jan 18, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Erin Mallory wrote: > could even bury the option in the debug console.

Re: [opensource-dev] Link times

2011-01-18 Thread Ponzu
Can you make the links verbose and compare the options? Also, why would first and second links differ? Could be that CV did a major revision of the make files, or CMake, or whatever is being used. On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Aleric Inglewood < aleric.inglew...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm afra

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: STORM-243 Suppress version change message in the viewer

2011-01-18 Thread Kent Quirk
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/109/#review192 --- Ship it! We've had the discussion and the change looks solid. -

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Twisted Laws
Personally I see no reason for it and a user could have a simple script they are wearing that triggers on changed, CHANGE_REGION, that tells them the version of the server if they are interested. default { on_rez(integer start_param) { llOwnerSay(llGetRegionName + " " + llGetEn

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Lance Corrimal
Am Dienstag, 18. Januar 2011 schrieb Oskar Linden: > It does have use for people testing server. I'd say make it > optional, more informative, and disabled by default. seconded! wrap it in an if(gSavedSettings.getBOOL() ), and make it more detailed with links to the release notes to both server

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: VWR-24321: Validate textures starting with 00 too.

2011-01-18 Thread Merov Linden
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/90/#review191 --- indra/newview/lltexturecache.cpp

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Kadah
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What Oskar said. Plus there are frequently (every RC roll?) bugs in one more more of the RCs that will effect a user till they relog on to a different RC server. - From November to mid-late December I was effected one or another bugs like that when ev

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Erin Mallory
could even bury the option in the debug console... most people that would need to turn it on would not likely keep flipping it I would think... Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:32:53 -0800 From: os...@lindenlab.com To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simul

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: VWR-24333: Hardening against use of getLindenUserDir() before logging in.

2011-01-18 Thread Merov Linden
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/91/#review190 --- Ship it! I haven't search for all instances of getLindenUserDir()

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Oskar Linden
It does have use for people testing server. I'd say make it optional, more informative, and disabled by default. __Oskar On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Erin Mallory wrote: > to rephrase, yes I like them, thought i'd rather see them on the chat > history and have more detailed. but i can li

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: DN-202: More aggressive caching of display names

2011-01-18 Thread Leyla Farazha
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/104/#review189 --- Ship it! Looks great. Couldn't find any issues, except there was

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: VWR-24320: Don't dump callstacks at clean exit of viewer.

2011-01-18 Thread Merov Linden
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/89/#review188 --- Ship it! I do think this can be suppressed. It's not extremely use

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: STORM-373 "Rename" context menu option disabled for incomplete inventory items

2011-01-18 Thread Seth ProductEngine
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/101/#review187 --- Ship it! Looks good to me. Seems like adding another observer is

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Erin Mallory
to rephrase, yes I like them, thought i'd rather see them on the chat history and have more detailed. but i can live without them if the majority really want to see them gone altogether. for me it helps me during certain testing and stuff to know when ive changed server versions but that's re

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: VWR-24420: PNG images which specify "background color" lose alpha layer when imported.

2011-01-18 Thread Merov Linden
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/74/#review186 --- Ship it! Other than the typo, no problem with that code. Good to f

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: VWR-24420: PNG images which specify "background color" lose alpha layer when imported.

2011-01-18 Thread Merov Linden
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/74/#review185 --- indra/llimage/llpngwrapper.cpp

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: STORM-243 Suppress version change message in the viewer

2011-01-18 Thread Vadim ProductEngine
> On Jan. 18, 2011, 9:28 a.m., Wolfpup Lowenhar wrote: > > Looks good to me since this is the removal of the Pop-up message and not > > total removal of the message that I can see, so message should be in chat > > history. This change drops adding the chat history entry as well. - Vadim --

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: STORM-243 Suppress version change message in the viewer

2011-01-18 Thread Wolfpup Lowenhar
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/109/#review183 --- Looks good to me since this is the removal of the Pop-up message a

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Erin Mallory
I would also like to see the toast moved. it can be useful and would be more useful if it had the actual version. but i would like to see it on the chat history instead. in fact... it would be nice to have an option to have ALL remaining system notifications be optionally shown in chat histo

[opensource-dev] Review Request: DN-202: More aggressive caching of display names

2011-01-18 Thread Oz Linden
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/104/ --- Review request for Viewer. Summary --- Changes the caching of avatar d

[opensource-dev] Review Request: STORM-243 Suppress version change message in the viewer

2011-01-18 Thread Vadim ProductEngine
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/109/ --- Review request for Viewer. Summary --- Removed the "You just entered a

[opensource-dev] Mmeting today... was: Re: AW Groupies meeting tomorrow on mesh asset interop format

2011-01-18 Thread Lawson English
Today's AWG meeting at 9:30 AM pacific coast time will be streamed live to: http://www.metanomics.net/community_forum topic will be an open file format for mesh distribution between various virtual worlds ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information ava

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: VWR-24100 Settings.xml: redundant entries and unnecessary tag

2011-01-18 Thread Kent Quirk
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/18/#review182 --- Ship it! These changes are all reasonable. Please go ahead. - Ken

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Ann Otoole
Doesn't it add some minor overhead to region crossings? I don't care about it. The message does not say what server version you just entered so it is mostly an annoyance. If I need version info I know where it is. What I would like to see is region rating and a single letter server version c

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Lance Corrimal
Am Dienstag, 18. Januar 2011 schrieb Stickman: > > on the contrary, i'm trying to port a patch from henri beauchamps > > cool viewer that makes that notification more detailed, as in it > > tells you the version of the sim you entered and the version of > > the sim you left. > > As Lance said, the

[opensource-dev] Review Request: STORM-373 "Rename" context menu option disabled for incomplete inventory items

2011-01-18 Thread Vadim ProductEngine
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/101/ --- Review request for Viewer. Summary --- Refresh the inventory context m

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Tateru Nino
Well, connect up the network message system with a small plugin stub in python or something, expose the popup API to it, and I'm sure we can each decide for ourselves what events and messages should and shouldn't generate popups and under what circumstances. Then, perhaps, we could expose a few

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Tateru Nino
Speaking as an unrepresentative sample of... err... one, I find the popup very useful - but *only* in certain defined periods where I am intending that it be an important part of what I'm doing (and it sometimes is). At that point, I *would* like more detail (exactly what version am I arriving

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Stickman
> on the contrary, i'm trying to port a patch from henri beauchamps cool viewer > that makes that notification more detailed, as in it tells you the version of > the sim you entered and the version of the sim you left. As Lance said, the notice as it is right now isn't very useful. If it actually

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Everyone wants more options. Why should this be an option? Just because you're interested in knowing the version number, do you really need a notification of it? What does that give you that checking About Second Life doesn't give you? On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Opensource Obscure wrote: >

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Can you please explain why you care? Is there a reason why you want a notification? On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Lance Corrimal wrote: > Am Dienstag, 18. Januar 2011, 16:22:45 schrieb Kent Quirk (Q Linden): >> Hi, folks. I've just commented on STORM-243, which requests that we have >> Yet Anoth

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Opensource Obscure
I guess most people on this list are personally interested in that notification. Still, I think we're a very non-representative sample of the whole SL userbase - especially with regards to tech details. Off by default, with freedom to choose would be the best; a Debug Setting would probably be goo

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread WolfPup Lowenhar
Q, I believe the jira in question was wanting to suppress the popup but not the notification itself so that it would still show up in chat history if you were logging it or kept your chat history open all the time. From: opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com [mailto:opensource-dev-boun..

[opensource-dev] Review Request: make PREHASH variables char const* const

2011-01-18 Thread Boroondas Gupte
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/100/ --- Review request for Viewer. Summary --- For the reason for this change,

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: STORM-2 As a User, I want to set my own default views with specific UI layout so I can tailor my Viewer experience to the activities I'm most interested in.

2011-01-18 Thread Opensource Obscure
Just to say this new feature looks very promising! A question. The 3rd note says "the files associated with saved layouts will be LLSD text files, so you can email or paste layouts into a notecard to share with other users". (the note also explains why this is not the ideal behaviour ever, and als

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Lance Corrimal
Am Dienstag, 18. Januar 2011, 16:22:45 schrieb Kent Quirk (Q Linden): > Hi, folks. I've just commented on STORM-243, which requests that we have > Yet Another Option to allow suppression of the toast that tells you the > simulator version changed when you changed to a new region. > > I think we sh

[opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Hi, folks. I've just commented on STORM-243, which requests that we have Yet Another Option to allow suppression of the toast that tells you the simulator version changed when you changed to a new region. I think we should delete it entirely. Does anyone care to still get that notification, no

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: STORM-2 As a User, I want to set my own default views with specific UI layout so I can tailor my Viewer experience to the activities I'm most interested in.

2011-01-18 Thread Vadim ProductEngine
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/98/#review181 --- Ship it! Looks good, given that this is a first pass implementatio