Re: [Mingw-w64-public] mingw-w64 v3 release calling for testers

2013-09-13 Thread Adrien Nader
Hi, On Sat, Sep 14, 2013, Kai Tietz wrote: > 2013/9/14 JonY : > > Trunk is already the devel branch, /stable/* is for stable users. what > > we could do is make a new "/testing" that constantly have safe and > > proven changes merged from /trunk, kind of like debian-testing, where > > trunk is Sid

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] mingw-w64 v3 release calling for testers

2013-09-13 Thread Kai Tietz
2013/9/14 JonY : > On 9/14/2013 02:45, Ozkan Sezer wrote: >> On 9/13/13, Kai Tietz wrote: >>> Well, I consider, if we might want to define _FORCENAMELESSUNION in >>> _mingw.h for 3.0, and remove it on our trunk. By this we reduce >>> fallout right now, provide a version check later on for changed

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] mingw-w64 v3 release calling for testers

2013-09-13 Thread JonY
On 9/14/2013 02:45, Ozkan Sezer wrote: > On 9/13/13, Kai Tietz wrote: >> Well, I consider, if we might want to define _FORCENAMELESSUNION in >> _mingw.h for 3.0, and remove it on our trunk. By this we reduce >> fallout right now, provide a version check later on for changed >> behavior. > > I don

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] libwinpthreads mutexes

2013-09-13 Thread Óscar Fuentes
Vadim writes: > To me, LGPL and GPL w/exception look substantially the same. It depends on what the exception is. The exception used for the GCC libraries avoids GPL infection for the programs that use those libraries *and* discharges the user from the obligation of distributing source code. LGP

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] libwinpthreads mutexes

2013-09-13 Thread Vadim
To me, LGPL and GPL w/exception look substantially the same. So I don't see how pthreads-win32 would add much to the burden that users already have because of libgcc. Anyhow. I don't suppose I'll convince you guys to change your mind at this juncture... I opened a bug about this issue: https://s

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] [Patch] intrsinsic _lrotl

2013-09-13 Thread Kai Tietz
2013/9/13 dw : > >> Hmm, as more as I look on this change in winnt.h, as more I >> see that removing of the intrin.h header include is a failure. > It is hard for me to respond to this since you provide no details or > examples of situations that might cause problems. > > I can only point out that

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] mingw-w64 v3 release calling for testers

2013-09-13 Thread Kai Tietz
Well, I consider, if we might want to define _FORCENAMELESSUNION in _mingw.h for 3.0, and remove it on our trunk. By this we reduce fallout right now, provide a version check later on for changed behavior. By this experience - as it must be possible to modify things on our trunk and our release c

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] mingw-w64 v3 release calling for testers

2013-09-13 Thread Ozkan Sezer
On 9/13/13, Kai Tietz wrote: > Well, I consider, if we might want to define _FORCENAMELESSUNION in > _mingw.h for 3.0, and remove it on our trunk. By this we reduce > fallout right now, provide a version check later on for changed > behavior. I don't know the specifics about that fallout, but is

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] [Patch] intrsinsic _lrotl

2013-09-13 Thread dw
> Hmm, as more as I look on this change in winnt.h, as more I > see that removing of the intrin.h header include is a failure. It is hard for me to respond to this since you provide no details or examples of situations that might cause problems. I can only point out that MS does not include intr

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] mingw-w64 v3 release calling for testers

2013-09-13 Thread JonY
On 9/6/2013 18:43, JonY wrote: > Hello all, > > We will be releasing v3 from trunk soon. Testers, please check with the > latest trunk version if any of the changes break your applications! > > Some of the new changes since v2 include: > > * Improved floating point math performance > * Improved

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] libwinpthreads mutexes

2013-09-13 Thread Earnie Boyd
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:49 AM, John E. / TDM wrote: > On 9/13/2013 1:28 AM, Adrien Nader wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013, John E. / TDM wrote: >>> This is absolutely the case. The pthreads-win32 library is LGPL, forcing >>> the distribution of its source code along with all binary distributions >

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] libwinpthreads mutexes

2013-09-13 Thread John E. / TDM
On 9/13/2013 1:28 AM, Adrien Nader wrote: > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013, John E. / TDM wrote: >> This is absolutely the case. The pthreads-win32 library is LGPL, forcing >> the distribution of its source code along with all binary distributions >> -- and since all binaries compiled by a pthreads-enabled G

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] mingw-w64 v3 release calling for testers

2013-09-13 Thread Koehne Kai
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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] mingw-w64 v3 release calling for testers

2013-09-13 Thread Erik van Pienbroek
Koehne Kai schreef op vr 13-09-2013 om 09:21 [+]: > > The above toolchains work just fine with the patches ... However, with the > > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw- > > w64/files/Toolchains%20targetting%20Win32/Personal%20Builds/mingw- > > builds/4.8.1/threads-win32/dwarf/x32-4.8.1

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] mingw-w64 v3 release calling for testers

2013-09-13 Thread Erik van Pienbroek
Kai Tietz schreef op vr 13-09-2013 om 11:24 [+0200]: > HI, > > we had in the past already the idea to add svn-revision-number to > identify version proper. See for this in the mingw-w64-crt/ folder > the header revstamp.h (a side-note ... actual the place should be > IMHO instead the mingw-w64-i

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] mingw-w64 v3 release calling for testers

2013-09-13 Thread Kai Tietz
HI, we had in the past already the idea to add svn-revision-number to identify version proper. See for this in the mingw-w64-crt/ folder the header revstamp.h (a side-note ... actual the place should be IMHO instead the mingw-w64-include folder ). We would need a server for doing this stamp

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] mingw-w64 v3 release calling for testers

2013-09-13 Thread Koehne Kai
> > -Original Message- > > From: Erik van Pienbroek [mailto:e...@vanpienbroek.nl] > > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:00 PM > > To: mingw-w64-public@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Mingw-w64-public] mingw-w64 v3 release calling for > > testers > > > > Koehne Kai schreef op do 1

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] mingw-w64 v3 release calling for testers

2013-09-13 Thread Koehne Kai
> -Original Message- > From: Erik van Pienbroek [mailto:e...@vanpienbroek.nl] > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:00 PM > To: mingw-w64-public@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Mingw-w64-public] mingw-w64 v3 release calling for testers > > Koehne Kai schreef op do 12-09-2013 om 06

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] libwinpthreads mutexes

2013-09-13 Thread Adrien Nader
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013, Vadim wrote: > But aren't gcc compiled binaries already dependent on libgcc? libgcc has a license exception which I don't know very well but which should answer your questions. Look at its license. -- Adrien Nader ---

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] libwinpthreads mutexes

2013-09-13 Thread Adrien Nader
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013, John E. / TDM wrote: > This is absolutely the case. The pthreads-win32 library is LGPL, forcing > the distribution of its source code along with all binary distributions > -- and since all binaries compiled by a pthreads-enabled GCC depend on > the pthreads library, everyon