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FWIW, there were some further discussions and mockups on
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No further comments from my side as the discussions already brought up very
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My God, I hate this bar! I've gone all over Google trying to figure out how to
remove it simply because I want to use the entire KDE ecosystem, but it's just
annoying
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It's hard to call a decision being wrong when you don't know the target group
as well.
There is a big target group of e.g. MS users, who loves app which decides most
of the things instead of them. And if somebody c
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This is still the wrong decision. You are taking away my responsibility for my
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> Surprised to find that we cannot disable the bar (anymore), but are still
> allowed to obfuscate it by changing its colors. This makes little sense,
> unless the goal is to h
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Surprised
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Bugs like this are one of reasons I stopped reporting bugs against KDE.
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> Is there maybe a fork of kmail that doesn't pander to the pathetic?
Maybe that would be a solution.
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Is anything happening with this bug? There are many reactions. E.g. a father
with a son who is visually handicapped and also the very respected Nate Graham
took the time to explain why this html-bar is a mistake - and he expl
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> KMail has clickable links also in plain text view. In HTML however
> the link can go to an entirely different location than what the user gets to
> see, while i
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> (In reply to Christoph Feck from comment #55)
> > It is a security reason. You could receive an HTML mail that looks like a
> > plain text mail, and with HTML yo
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> It is a security reason. You could receive an HTML mail that looks like a
> plain text mail, and with HTML you have the ability to embed malicious links
> everywhere
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I think most people don't object to real security. What people object to here
is the following:
- It's not clear how this thing actually generates any security. HTML emails
are not commonly understood by the average
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It is a security reason. You could receive an HTML mail that looks like a plain
text mail, and with HTML you have the ability to embed malicious links
everywhere. If you have no way to see that the message is actu
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What starts to puzzle me about this whole discussion is that no one ever took
the trouble of explaining why this bar had to be fixed. Why so many faithful
users had to be "kicked against the sore leg" as we say in my country.
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> Created attachment 117651 [details]
> html white bar
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> Even if you set the colors to either white or grayish you will end up with
> same bad UI behavior.
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> @avlas Where
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html white bar
Even if you set the colors to either white or grayish you will end up with same
bad UI behavior.
@avlas Wh
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> @avlas thanks for that info. By any chance do you have the code that is
> relevant for removing this egregious UI.
Sorry, perhaps I was not clear enough. These config sectio
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@avlas thanks for that info. By any chance do you have the code that is
relevant for removing this egregious UI.
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> (In reply to Cristian Adam from comment #5)
> > I have found a partial workaround – namely changing the background color of
> > the HTML Status Bar.
> >
> > This can be done in Setti
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> I have found a partial workaround – namely changing the background color of
> the HTML Status Bar.
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> This can be done in Settings -> Configure KMail -> Appearance -> Colors.
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> Another bug report (as feature request), kdepim-devel mailing list, KDE
Here it is: bug 399245 as a feature request
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> As already mentioned earlier, this is intentional.
Wouldn't be more simple to change the type of this ticket (to feature request)
instead of opening another one ?
Clo
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> As already mentioned earlier, this is intentional.
Wouldn't be more simple to change the type of this ticket (to feature request)
instead of opening another one ?
Clo
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> And where is the right place to discuss alternative UI proposals ?
Another bug report (as feature request), kdepim-devel mailing list, KDE forums.
> There was no discussion
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> (In reply to Sudhir Khanger from comment #35)
> > Is it necessary to keep it absolutely ugly and intrusive? Could we not come
> > up with a UI that is less distracting to the
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Open source...
Part of the KDE family...
Not: 'I'm the maintainer, therefore we can ignore all Users without any
rational reason'.
It raises the question, who gets to decide here?
It would be a shame to have to
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> As already mentioned earlier, this is intentional.
Being intentional doesn't mean it's a good idea. It isn't, as the flood of
comments here shows.
What othe
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> Is it necessary to keep it absolutely ugly and intrusive? Could we not come
> up with a UI that is less distracting to the users. Take for example, it can
> be sho
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KMail 5.8.3 now, I have to add my vote that this is annoying, even with
Cristian's work-around. Please, Laurent! :)
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--- Comment #28 from Cristian Adam ---
It has been four months already. How hard is for a KDE developer to revert a
commit, review it, and merge it?
Is "Laurent Montel" the only developer who works on KMail?
If somebody does the revert today, it will
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Dear Canoe (of comment 23). I applied the workaround of Christian Adam in
comment 5.
For the two foreground-items I choose the darker grey #7c7c7c and for the
background items I choose the lighter grey #c0c0c0. It looks even
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A
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*** Bug 393473 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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Plea
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I too can't understand why this happened. To me it is a strange choice. In my
eyes there are a few (not much anymore) items to fix in kmail and this is NOT
one of them.
But still, you come a long end with the workaround from
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@Laurent Montel: a new user wouldn't know about any option in the setting
dialog.
Your explanation makes no sense: should kmail disable any feature a new user
doesn't know about.
This is a regression bug not
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Is there any way to re-open this issue. Whereas it is understandable that some
kmail devs may want the html bar displayed by default in emails, there seems to
be no real justification, or at least a satisfactory one, for r
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--- Comment #11 from Jani-Matti Hätinen ---
If you're worried that new users won't be able to switch between HTML and
non-HTML message views (a feature, which no one uses btw) make the HTML status
bar visible by default and add a comment to the configur
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--- Comment #8 from Cristian Adam ---
The commit which removed the setting:
https://phabricator.kde.org/R94:1c55919a64491bd5598cf9d8616e77b037edbf87
In my opinion this needs to be reverted.
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--- Comment #7 from Cristian Adam ---
The setting ("Settings > Configure Kmail > Appearance > General > Show HTML
Side Bar") has been removed in KMail 5.8.0 :(
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I
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--- Comment #5 from Cristian Adam ---
I have found a partial workaround – namely changing the background color of the
HTML Status Bar.
This can be done in Settings -> Configure KMail -> Appearance -> Colors. I have
used "#fcfcfc" for all four "HTML Sta
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--- Comment #4 from PK ---
Kmail is growing into a real quality application that looks good too. But now
the beautiful looks are being hit by this html-status-bar that makes a lot of
noise about (in my opinion) not so much.
If someone finds the message
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What do you mean by "you can't to disable it as new user didn't know this
feature." ?
As a user I don't need to switch between HTML and plain-text.
I really do care about the vertical space used by the bar, so I
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