Segfault / Bus error on Squatter...

2002-04-10 Thread Scott M Likens
I'm running Squatter trying to prune my indexes and see if it helps with performance. Let's face it, that's hard. Cyrus runs SWELL on this Ultra Sparc 5. But Squatter seems to have problems with HTML encoded mail. I've gdb'd it and here is the trace and i hope this helps. $ gdb /usr/cyrus/b

Re: pam vs vs saslauthd vs sasldb?

2002-04-10 Thread Simon Matter
Birger Toedtmann schrieb: > > Mathias Koerber schrieb am Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 12:35:46PM +0800: > > I have only problems getting IMAPD-2.1.3 to work on my RH7.2 system. > > > > I removed all prior instances I had compiled and totally re-made > > both SASLv2 (2.1.2) and IMAPD 2.1.3 (from the sourc

Re: DB_RUNRECOVERY errors

2002-04-10 Thread Simon Matter
Hi, I suggest you take my RPMs at http://home.teleport.ch/simix/ as a starting point. They should build and run out of the box, using PAM for auth. It is easier to upgrade/modify a running system than to get it work for the first time. -Simon Mathias Koerber schrieb: > > I just installed SASL-

Re: pam vs vs saslauthd vs sasldb?

2002-04-10 Thread Birger Toedtmann
Mathias Koerber schrieb am Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 12:35:46PM +0800: > I have only problems getting IMAPD-2.1.3 to work on my RH7.2 system. > > I removed all prior instances I had compiled and totally re-made > both SASLv2 (2.1.2) and IMAPD 2.1.3 (from the source RPMS announced [...] > sasl_pw

pam vs vs saslauthd vs sasldb?

2002-04-10 Thread Mathias Koerber
I have only problems getting IMAPD-2.1.3 to work on my RH7.2 system. I removed all prior instances I had compiled and totally re-made both SASLv2 (2.1.2) and IMAPD 2.1.3 (from the source RPMS announced here a few days ago, with the single modification that I configure cyrus-imapd with --w

DB_RUNRECOVERY errors

2002-04-10 Thread Mathias Koerber
I just installed SASL-2.1.2 and IMAPD-2.1.3 from the source RPMS which were mentioned here yesterday on my RH-7.2 system.. (I had to modify the IMAPD SPEC file somewhat to avoid configure complaining about missing des libraries (where can I get those??) # cd /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS

proper shutdown of service?

2002-04-10 Thread Kervin Pierre
Hi, What is the correct way to shutdown cyrus imap service? I'm starting with '/usr/cyrus/bin/master &' and shutdown using 'pkill master'. Is this correct. Is there a more graceful way to start/stop cyrus? --Kervin -- http://linuxquestions.org/ - Ask linux questions, give linux help. http

Re: Postfix/Cyrus reports "temporary failure"

2002-04-10 Thread simon
On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 21:59, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Any help on this one? We are quite stumped. At this point our only other > option is to drop Cyrus, which we'd rather not do. > What is the quota of the users ??? -- Simon

Re: Postfix/Cyrus reports "temporary failure"

2002-04-10 Thread Dustin Puryear
Any help on this one? We are quite stumped. At this point our only other option is to drop Cyrus, which we'd rather not do. At 10:49 PM 4/9/2002 -0500, you wrote: >I have a rather peculiar problem. I am running Cyrus 2.0.16_1 under >FreeBSD along with Postfix. Every seems to run fine EXCEPT tha

Re: More on SASL/Authentication/Authorization

2002-04-10 Thread Igor Brezac
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Lawrence Greenfield wrote: > We currently use the PTS database from AFS. It would be cool to write > an auth_ldap backend for Cyrus, but we haven't gotten the time to do > it. (A seperate process like ptloader is probably the way to go.) Do you have any documenation? I'd

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Igor Brezac wrote: > True. However, in most cases userPassword in LDAP is of > {(crypt|sha|md5)}xx format. It appears that cmusaslsecretPLAIN takes > md5 password only. Yes. It is. > As you suggested below, a possibly better approach would be to develop a > saslauthd

Re: problems with microsoft outlook?

2002-04-10 Thread Earl R Shannon
Hello, You did not mention which version of the IMAP server you are running. If its an older one it may not understand the STARTTLs command that an SSL'ed connection will probably use. I've had a couple of Outlook users have this problem with our current production server, but the newer version (

Re: double Return-Path in Cyrus

2002-04-10 Thread Luc de Louw
FYI >>>cyrus unix - n n - - pipe >>> user=cyrus argv=/usr/cyrus/bin/deliver -r ${sender} -m ${extension} >>>${user} >>> >>>-Hein >>> >>> >> >>This ends up with: >> >>test postfix/pipe[10454]: 458C5D9DA1: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >>relay=cyrus, delay=418, s

Re: More on SASL/Authentication/Authorization

2002-04-10 Thread Lawrence Greenfield
From: "Tim Pushor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:35:39 -0600 While we're on the subject of SASL and authorization/authentication, if Cyrus IMAP has abstracted authentication through SASL, why is the group ACL still handled locally (in Cyrus) via UNIX groups or Kerbe

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Igor Brezac
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Rob Siemborski wrote: > On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Igor Brezac wrote: > > > Auxprop has to return a clear text password unless you make neccessary > > changes to lib/checkpw.c. > > I don't agree, auxprop_verify_password() will take either a userPassword > (plaintext) or a cmusaslse

Heavy I/O load from seen.db's

2002-04-10 Thread Jaska Kivelä
Hi folks. I am currently testing a postfix/cyrus-2.1.3 combination to find the best installation option for a >50 mailbox system. I am experiencing heavy i/o from the seen-db files. Although I can split the i/o from mailboxes using paritions to different disks, all the seen-db's go to one

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Igor Brezac wrote: > Auxprop has to return a clear text password unless you make neccessary > changes to lib/checkpw.c. I don't agree, auxprop_verify_password() will take either a userPassword (plaintext) or a cmusaslsecretPLAIN. > It would be nicer if auxprop would simply

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Rob Siemborski
On 10 Apr 2002, simon wrote: > userPassword and cmusaslsecret(what ever) . > So for all those people who might want to use this they just need > to set a property in ldap or mysql of cmusaslsecret(MECHNAME) (in case > of mysql you %p the select statement to make sure it gets the correct > thing).

More on SASL/Authentication/Authorization

2002-04-10 Thread Tim Pushor
While we're on the subject of SASL and authorization/authentication, if Cyrus IMAP has abstracted authentication through SASL, why is the group ACL still handled locally (in Cyrus) via UNIX groups or Kerberos? I would really like to base group ACL's on the same scheme that authentication is using

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread simon
O > Most of the mechanisms that can take plaintext passwords can also take the > hashes, the problem is that the type of hash they need varies based on > mechanism. > > This is, by the way, how the database conversion works. > > So, any auxprop plugin that can return either a hash of the correct

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Igor Brezac
On 10 Apr 2002, simon wrote: > I dont see how this would work ? An auxprop plugin gets a username/ > realm and a list of properties to return ? Are you saying it should > return the password encrypted and then use a patch like someone did > a couple of weeks ago. Or is there some other way for a

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Rob Siemborski
On 10 Apr 2002, simon wrote: > I dont see how this would work ? An auxprop plugin gets a username/ > realm and a list of properties to return ? Are you saying it should > return the password encrypted and then use a patch like someone did > a couple of weeks ago. Or is there some other way for an

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread simon
> > form). That means if anyone ever gets access to your sasldb, you are > > hosed. Not true for an LDAP database, stores passwords in hashed form. > > There is no requirement in SASL that says that passwords must be stored in > cleartext. Yes, it is true that libsasl's sasldb does so, however

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, David Wright wrote: > Since there is such as SASL love-fest going on here, allow me to chime > in with my dissenting viewpoint. SASL adds nothing but an annoying > dependency to LDAP. No, I take that back, it also adds a security hole. SASL does not in any way force the addi

Re: IMAPd CVS: is the notifyd entry in master/README correct?

2002-04-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
This message took so long to appear, I was hoping it would not :) On Mon, 08 Apr 2002, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Right now, in master/README (CVS head), the notifyd entry reads: > # notify cmd="notifyd" listen="/notify" proto="udp" prefork=1 > > Is that correct? proto="udp" wit

INBOX drops connection w/o warning... :-(

2002-04-10 Thread cue
Hello all, It seems as though INBOX just drops my connection to it without warning. Background: I upgraded from 1.6x IMAP to 2.1.2 and now INBOX is not happy with me. It just drops my connection to it without warning... no autologout or anything just drops it. Any insight? Where there settin

Re: double Return-Path in Cyrus

2002-04-10 Thread Galen Johnson
oops...I should pay more attention to where I paste stuff...see Birger's response. Galen Johnson wrote: > I read this as: > cyrus unix - n n - - pipe > flags= user=cyrus argv=/usr/cyrus/bin/deliver -e -m -r ${sender} > ${extension} ${user} > > but I haven't

Re: double Return-Path in Cyrus

2002-04-10 Thread Luc de Louw
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Birger Toedtmann wrote: > > This means the exaxt line in /etc/postfix/master.cf looks like this? > > > > cyrus unix - n n - - pipe > > flags=R -r ${sender} user=cyrus argv=/usr/cyrus/bin/deliver -e -m > > ${extension} ${user} > > No, rea

Re: double Return-Path in Cyrus

2002-04-10 Thread Birger Toedtmann
Luc de Louw schrieb am Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 02:41:39PM +0200: > On 10 Apr 2002, Hein Roehrig wrote: > > > The following message is a courtesy copy of an article > > that has been posted to comp.mail.imap as well. > > > > Hein Roehrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes in comp.mail.imap: > > > > > I also

Re: double Return-Path in Cyrus

2002-04-10 Thread Luc de Louw
On 10 Apr 2002, Hein Roehrig wrote: > > This means the exaxt line in /etc/postfix/master.cf looks like this? > > > > cyrus unix - n n - - pipe > > flags=R -r ${sender} user=cyrus argv=/usr/cyrus/bin/deliver -e -m > > ${extension} ${user} > > cyrus unix -

Re: double Return-Path in Cyrus

2002-04-10 Thread Galen Johnson
I read this as: cyrus unix - n n - - pipe flags= user=cyrus argv=/usr/cyrus/bin/deliver -e -m -r ${sender} ${extension} ${user} but I haven't actually tried it... Luc de Louw wrote: > On 10 Apr 2002, Hein Roehrig wrote: > > >>The following message is a co

Re: double Return-Path in Cyrus

2002-04-10 Thread Hein Roehrig
> This means the exaxt line in /etc/postfix/master.cf looks like this? > > cyrus unix - n n - - pipe > flags=R -r ${sender} user=cyrus argv=/usr/cyrus/bin/deliver -e -m > ${extension} ${user} cyrus unix - n n - - pipe user

Re: double Return-Path in Cyrus

2002-04-10 Thread Luc de Louw
On 10 Apr 2002, Hein Roehrig wrote: > The following message is a courtesy copy of an article > that has been posted to comp.mail.imap as well. > > Hein Roehrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes in comp.mail.imap: > > > I also get bitten by this problem (on Cyrus 2.1.3.) > > Ok, I resolved the problem by

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Simon Matter
Kervin Pierre schrieb: > > Michael Bartosh wrote: > > > At 7:52 AM +0200 4/10/02, Birger Toedtmann wrote: > > > > In practice, most LDAP implementations don't have great authentication > > mechanisms without sasl. You can always use TLS, and probably should, > > anyway, but that's not the p

Re: double Return-Path in Cyrus

2002-04-10 Thread Hein Roehrig
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.mail.imap as well. Hein Roehrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes in comp.mail.imap: > I also get bitten by this problem (on Cyrus 2.1.3.) Ok, I resolved the problem by 1) telling postfix not to put a Return-path (drop

Re: Cyrus Imap 2.1.3: SQUAT failed ?

2002-04-10 Thread Hein Roehrig
On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 12:16, Russell Packer wrote: > I'm getting these (error?) messages in the imapd.log: > > Apr 10 09:01:06 mailserver imapd[1045]: SQUAT failed > Apr 10 09:01:06 mailserver imapd[1045]: SQUAT failed to open index file Somebody did a full-text search and Cyrus checked (and did

RE: double Return-Path in Cyrus

2002-04-10 Thread Russell Packer
> The following message is a courtesy copy of an article > that has been posted to comp.mail.imap as well. > > "Eric A. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes in comp.mail.imap: > [...] > > >From: "Eric A. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><--- extra! > > >

Cyrus Imap 2.1.3: SQUAT failed ?

2002-04-10 Thread Russell Packer
Hi, I'm getting these (error?) messages in the imapd.log: Apr 10 09:01:06 mailserver imapd[1045]: SQUAT failed Apr 10 09:01:06 mailserver imapd[1045]: SQUAT failed to open index file I can't find any information on SQUAT, making it a little tricky to figure out what is going on. Any help much a

Re: double Return-Path in Cyrus

2002-04-10 Thread Hein Roehrig
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.mail.imap as well. "Eric A. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes in comp.mail.imap: [...] > >From: "Eric A. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><--- extra! > > Return-Path:

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Michael Bartosh
At 1:56 AM -0700 4/10/02, David Wright wrote: >>Putting the password over the wire is always a bad idea. >If there were no downside to challenge-response, I'd agree. But if >the price is storing my passwords unhashed, I'm not willing to pay >it. All my sites use MD5 or SHA hashing, which OpenLDA

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Birger Toedtmann
David Wright schrieb am Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:41:39AM -0700: [...] > >So how do we get these toys together if one > > > > 1. is going to protect user information based on "by self write" - you > >first have to see what "self" is! - and > > > > 2. has, to faciliate 1., authenticate someone b

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Kervin Pierre
Michael Bartosh wrote: > At 7:52 AM +0200 4/10/02, Birger Toedtmann wrote: > > In practice, most LDAP implementations don't have great authentication > mechanisms without sasl. You can always use TLS, and probably should, > anyway, but that's not the point. Keeping hashed password in the >

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Birger Toedtmann
David Wright schrieb am Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:41:39AM -0700: > > >>Finally, Birger, what's "really creative" about > >> > >> by self write > >> by anonymous auth > >> by * none > >> > >>? > > > >So how do we get these toys together if one > > > > 1. is going to protect user information based o

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Michael Bartosh
At 1:13 AM -0700 4/10/02, David Wright wrote: >Since there is such as SASL love-fest going on here, allow me to >chime in with my dissenting viewpoint. SASL adds nothing but an >annoying dependency to LDAP. No, I take that back, it also adds a >security hole. > >Challenge-response mechanisms ha

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread David Wright
> Putting the password over the wire is always a bad idea. If there were no downside to challenge-response, I'd agree. But if the price is storing my passwords unhashed, I'm not willing to pay it. All my sites use MD5 or SHA hashing, which OpenLDAP supports. > Maybe I'm a dork for buying into

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Birger Toedtmann
Birger Toedtmann schrieb am Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 10:31:42AM +0200: [...] > storing user passwords), LDAP is. So how do we get these toys together > if one > > 1. is going to protect user information based on "by self write" - you > first have to see what "self" is! - and > > 2. has, to

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread David Wright
>>Finally, Birger, what's "really creative" about >> >> by self write >> by anonymous auth >> by * none >> >>? > > So how do we get these toys together if one > > 1. is going to protect user information based on "by self write" - you > first have to see what "self" is! - and > > 2. h

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Birger Toedtmann
Michael Bartosh schrieb am Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:35:08AM -0600: [...] > > > > >So I would prefer for SASL doing all authentication requests but fetching > >information needed from a directory. > > That's where I'd (personally) disagree, unless you consider Kerberos > a directory. I think this

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Birger Toedtmann
David Wright schrieb am Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:13:37AM -0700: > > Since there is such as SASL love-fest going on here, allow me to chime > in with my dissenting viewpoint. SASL adds nothing but an annoying > dependency to LDAP. No, I take that back, it also adds a security hole. > > Challenge

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread David Wright
Since there is such as SASL love-fest going on here, allow me to chime in with my dissenting viewpoint. SASL adds nothing but an annoying dependency to LDAP. No, I take that back, it also adds a security hole. Challenge-response mechanisms have absolutely no advantage over straight password t

DB_RUNRECOVERY errors

2002-04-10 Thread Mathias Koerber
I just installed SASL-2.1.2 and IMAPD-2.1.3 from the source RPMS which were mentioned here yesterday on my RH-7.2 system.. (I had to modify the IMAPD SPEC file somewhat to avoid configure complaining about missing des libraries (where can I get those??) # cd /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Kervin Pierre

Re: Cyrus-IMAP-2.1.3 and perl

2002-04-10 Thread Devdas Bhagat
On 10/04/02 13:48 +0800, Mathias Koerber wrote: > I'm trying to build Cyrus-IMAP on RedHat 7.2. > > It seems that Cyrus by default installs its perl libs under > /usr/local/lib/... Pass the -I flag to the perl script. perl -I /usr/local/lib/ -MCyrus::IMAP -e shell Devdas Bhagat

Re: Fw: Alternate Namespace

2002-04-10 Thread simon
On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 07:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Anthony Brock schrieb am Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 11:19:28PM -0700: > > Where would you find this patch? > > Mmmh, maybe my post was a littly fast - I was sure I saw it flying around > somewhere. However, you may begin with > > http://www.s

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Michael Bartosh
At 9:25 AM +0200 4/10/02, Birger Toedtmann wrote: >SASL is a lib for > > faciliating authentication mechanisms, > >not directly for > > storing authentication credentials. True, although it can store secrets in sasldb, which is what I tend to use for a lot of projects (most organizations don

summary: 2.0.16 on Mac OS X

2002-04-10 Thread Michael Bartosh
I haven't seen a definitive howto here or elsewhere for building 2.0.16 on Mac OS X, so I thought I'd post this for the archives. I'm using 2.0.16 since the project I'm working on needs OpenLDAP, which doesn't yet support sasl 2.x. I used fink (a package manager, for those of you not familiar

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Birger Toedtmann
Michael Bartosh schrieb am Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 12:56:31AM -0600: > At 7:52 AM +0200 4/10/02, Birger Toedtmann wrote: > >But why not storing *authentication* information (i.e. passwords) in > >LDAP as well so you don't have to maintain two userbases (one auth"E" > >in SASLs sasldb and one auth"O"

Re: LDAP accounts for Cyrus patch questions

2002-04-10 Thread Michael Bartosh
At 7:52 AM +0200 4/10/02, Birger Toedtmann wrote: >But why not storing *authentication* information (i.e. passwords) in >LDAP as well so you don't have to maintain two userbases (one auth"E" >in SASLs sasldb and one auth"O" in LDAP)? Because in theory, Directories are better suited for authorizat

Re: Fw: Alternate Namespace

2002-04-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anthony Brock schrieb am Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 11:19:28PM -0700: > Where would you find this patch? Mmmh, maybe my post was a littly fast - I was sure I saw it flying around somewhere. However, you may begin with http://www.surf.org.uk/downloads/HIERSEP-r2.patch but that seems to apply to 2.