[h-cost] lacing tape WAS:Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread Purple Kat
she is in central NJ Katheryne On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Sharon Collier wrote: > They usually have it at Fabrics R Us in San Jose. Where is she? > > -Original Message- > > I have a friend who is looking for lacing eye tape.. > > the stuff that looks like the eye part of hook & ey

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread R Lloyd Mitchell
Home sew Does have it in black and white#HE122.? Even at Greenberg& Hammer..(Sigh) This($3.95) was the going price and seldom discounted. The code name seems to be 'lacing tape'. (Please excuse extra punctuation.. this is a quirk with h-costume and my posts) Kathleen. -Original Message- F

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread R Lloyd Mitchell
Some costumes from this period do not bear hip?ruffles well. Having a trim fit over the hips is really better body support.? If the foundation garment has these included with the 'flare' at the bottom of the corset and the wearer does not have the flesh support beneath to take up the flack...you

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread R Lloyd Mitchell
Homesew/newark has it! I think in black and white. Kathleen? -Original Message- From: "Purple Kat" Sent 3/24/2011 3:46:31 PM To: "Historical Costume" Subject: Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questionsI have a friend who is looking for lacing eye tape.. the stuff that looks like

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread Sharon Collier
They usually have it at Fabrics R Us in San Jose. Where is she? -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Purple Kat Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:47 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and resear

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread Purple Kat
I have a friend who is looking for lacing eye tape.. the stuff that looks like the eye part of hook & eye sets. Not the stuff that looks like eyelets. she needs 1 yard of black. She has found it on-line for approx $3.50/yd (+$5 S&H) 1 week shipping. we are looking for cheaper and faster. help???

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2011-03-24 Thread Cherylyn Crill
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Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread Sharon Collier
I'm showing my ignorance here, but I want to learn so... Why use gores at all? Why not just incorporate that extra bit into the main panel of the corset, as an extra "flared" bit on the end? Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread Brenna Sharp
Dear Michael, Please bear in mind this is meant in friendship (and experience) not animosity May I recommend that you invest in some existing patterns that are _similar_ to what you're thinking of (and maybe some that are not) and fitting/making them up to fit various shapes on _live_ mo

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread Marjorie Wilser
Michael, That's main thing you have right: so many of the reproduction corset companies fail to realize that more adipose _around_ (as in a cup size) is more _up_and_down_ too. I've seen far too many corset patterns with nested side lines for sizing up, but nothing for a cup size going up

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread Lynn Downward
Two people have mentioned JoAnn Peterson's Laughing Moon Mercantile patterns. Please know that she's already had her design copied and printed elsewhere. Blah-blah-blah copyright. Yes, I've actually seen how it is when someone I know has been ripped off. I don't want to sidetrack this conversation

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread Joan Jurancich
Hello, Michael, I recommend that you look into Laughing Moon Mercantile patterns ( www.lafnmoon.com ). Joanne has an excellent mid-Victorian corset pattern with both hip and bust gores. Sometimes, though, as in my case, the corsetier had to remove the hip gores to get a better fit. The main

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread Michael Deibert
Thank you Fran, for that reminder and clarification. While I very well could work out a licensing agreement to use a current corset pattern, I'm still leaning towards going back to the primary sources to develope one. Yes, I could easily be wasting my time in the end, but because the concept is uni

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread Michael Deibert
All of these are great ideas, great tidbits of advice, and have given me plenty of things to ponder! But perhaps I need to clarify a few things so we don't get too far off track, or just keep re-itterating the same things over and over. First, I'm only on the preliminary research steps, nowhere ne

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread albertcat
I am >>> specifically >>> hoping to find Victorian era corset patterns with hip and/or bust >>> >>> gores. One of my fave corset patterns of all time is Past Pattern's # 708 "1845 -1860". http://www.pastpatterns.com/708.html I find it works for 1820's to early 1870's The pattern is light

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread Lavolta Press
The Laughing Moon one is the only corset pattern I"ve used with gores, but since I started with fantasy corsets, I haven't used many historical patterns,i nstead I've developed my own and modified others for myself. I'm not sure a see a need for a Victorian corset pattern people would call "g

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread aquazoo
Fantasy, that's the word I was looking for! Steampunk, Fairie Festivals and goth fashion all use corsets. You might as well include all of them in your marketing — a pattern sale is still a sale, whether it's made up in sepia browns, forest green with leaf and flower petal trims, or black satin.

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread Marjorie Wilser
Michael, First, do get Waugh. Then take a careful look. Women's shapers changed so much during Victoria's reign that you simply can NOT make a "general purpose" corset which will fly with reenactors. If you must make a corset for modern wearers with a Victorian flavor, pick a decade (the

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread Maggie Halberg
""Second, the little research I've done so far indicates that during the Victorian eras, there were many corset patterns that used gores - yet many of the current commercial patterns focus on those without. Is there a reason for this that anyone might be aware of? Is it easier to fit without gore

Re: [h-cost] Pattern woes (was) Patterns of time etc

2011-03-24 Thread Janyce Hill
Hi Sandy I agree with everything you say. That indeed, was my point in the rather round about way I presented it. The publisher of replicated patterns should in good faith have both in their catalog and on the packaging an accurate description of what the pattern does/does not contain. While th

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread annbwass
Ann, In terms of "reinventing the wheel," I almost have to because am aiming to commercially sell either the end result or the pattern, or both. herefore I couldn't use a current working pattern because of copyright issues. Sorry you seem to have misunderstood what I said. I'm urging you to

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread michaeljdeib...@gmail.com
My understanding so far is that the spoon busk was towards the latter half or even latter third of the 19th century. I am currently at work and have limited access to look it up but I might be completely wrong. "to assume is o make an ass between U and ME." No carol, there is no "average" woman

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread annbwass
May I just weigh in with some general comments? A friend of mine who has done a great deal of creating modern patterns for historical garments has made it a practice to research only primary sources (that is, PERIOD patterns, illustrations, and actual garments) rather than looking at modern pa

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread Carol Kocian
19th century = 1800s, 1801 to 1900. The spoon busk was used in the 19th century. The gores in the soft corset are used in 1820, which sounds like "early" for the time span you are looking at. Early and late Victorian are different shapes. I don't know that there is an average customer!

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread Lisa A Ashton
My experience has been that making a corset with gores is actually a VERY good way to fit it, especially when fitting someone with a challenging shape (i.e. very round, wide hips but hardly any bust, etc). I have primarily used the "Laughing Moon Victorian Underwear corset--the Silverado", which c

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread R Lloyd Mitchell
Which century are you researching?? I think you can perhaps start?with wikipedia if you don't have Waugh, yet. The spoon busk was quite before the 19th C. so it wouldn't be considered for the Victorian period anyway.? If you mean to be historical, I think the "wheel" has already been invented fo

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread michaeljdeib...@gmail.com
First, that book is one of the top ones on my wish list! Perhaps I can scavenge the money for it bow that I've a specific reason! While I'm aiming for Victorian, the style and shape will be geared more towards the "average customer" who really wouldn't care if it was early or late victorian. I

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread Carol Kocian
Hi Michael, What era are you aiming for? Victoria was around for a long time and the "ideal" shape changed through those decades. Gores first show up in the softer corsets of the early 19thC. Having the right shape of the corset makes a difference in the finished look of the outfit. My fa

[h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-24 Thread Michael Deibert
Good morning everyone! I'm doing some research into corsets, and thought it best to start on here where many of you already have research. While I know a lot regarding corsets, I have two main focuses. The first is regarding corset patterns. I am hoping to develop a corset pattern and thus would