Re: .bp not working in groff 1.23.0 when it worked fine in 1.22.4

2024-01-23 Thread Dave Kemper
On 1/23/24, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > At 2024-01-23T20:52:34-0600, Dave Kemper wrote: >> However, .bp arguably shouldn't have been affected by the change, >> since it probably wasn't subject to the same historical ambiguity. > > I agree, and I wasn't happy about it. I wonder if the proper way

Re: .bp not working in groff 1.23.0 when it worked fine in 1.22.4

2024-01-23 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Dave, At 2024-01-23T20:52:34-0600, Dave Kemper wrote: > However, .bp arguably shouldn't have been affected by the change, > since it probably wasn't subject to the same historical ambiguity. I agree, and I wasn't happy about it. > (I bet implementing that distinction would require some macro

Re: .bp not working in groff 1.23.0 when it worked fine in 1.22.4

2024-01-23 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2024-01-24T02:26:44+, Bjarni Ingi Gislason wrote: > This is a regression (not backward compatible) It's a _change_. That's why it's documented in the ChangeLog file. It is a change that can have a significant measurable effect on user documents. That's why it's documented in the NEWS f

Re: .bp not working in groff 1.23.0 when it worked fine in 1.22.4

2024-01-23 Thread Dave Kemper
On 1/23/24, Bjarni Ingi Gislason wrote: > Macros for historical documents should be put into a separate > directory (e.g., tmac/historical), which can then be searched > with the '-M ' option. As the NEWS item (posted in full a couple hours ago in this thread) mentions, this change *increases*

Re: .bp not working in groff 1.23.0 when it worked fine in 1.22.4

2024-01-23 Thread Bjarni Ingi Gislason
This is a regression (not backward compatible) caused by Branden acting as a developer (not as a maintainer). This is the second case of this kind of a bug (bug #65077), see for example "CSTR #54", chapter 5, about the 'ns' request or the "groff.info" (info groff) and groff(7) (incomplete).

Re: Groff's -mm Indexing

2024-01-23 Thread G. Branden Robinson
[self-follow-up] At 2023-07-01T05:58:16-0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > We could: > > 1. Make `INITI` recongize a "location-type" argument of 'C' (for > "custom"), where the entry format is whatever the user supplies as > the arguments to `IND`. > 2. Make `IND` require two arguments

Re: .bp not working in groff 1.23.0 when it worked fine in 1.22.4

2024-01-23 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2024-01-23T19:10:00-0600, Dave Kemper wrote: > On 1/23/24, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > > I have a groff -ms source file > [...] > > When I groff it with version 1.23.0 the page breaks > > corresponding to the explicit .bp requests are missing. > > This item in the (very lengthy) NEWS file for 1.23 p

Re: Proposed: make \X read its argument in copy mode

2024-01-23 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Deri, At 2024-01-23T11:32:02+, Deri wrote: > Just to be sure, can you confirm your intention is to return .device > to its 1.23.0 state, and mirror that behaviour for \X, Yes, that is my intention. > so we will have no more red seepage. Not sure what that is, so I can't promise it. Does

Re: .bp not working in groff 1.23.0 when it worked fine in 1.22.4

2024-01-23 Thread Dave Kemper
On 1/23/24, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > I have a groff -ms source file [...] > When I groff it with version 1.23.0 the page breaks > corresponding to the explicit .bp requests are missing. This item in the (very lengthy) NEWS file for 1.23 probably explains the change you're seeing: The s (ms) macro

Re: [TUHS] Re: Original print of V7 manual? / My own version of troff

2024-01-23 Thread Lennart Jablonka
Quoth Lennart Jablonka: I’ve attached a PDF of our favourite table. Content-Type: application/pdf Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="table1.pdf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oops. That should be application/postscript and table1.ps.

Re: [TUHS] Re: Original print of V7 manual? / My own version of troff

2024-01-23 Thread Lennart Jablonka
Quoth Lennart Jablonka: and the character codes emitted are still those of the C/A/T, resulting in the wrong glyphs being used. The codes should probably be remapped by default, with a command-line option to restore the original ones. I would of course recommend writing out 'C' commands with g

Re: Proposed: make \X read its argument in copy mode

2024-01-23 Thread Deri
On Tuesday, 23 January 2024 02:46:50 GMT G. Branden Robinson wrote: > [self-follow-up] > > > Or: Should device control commands affect the environment? > > > > Recall the definition of the \X escape sequence from CSTR #54 (1992). > > > > 10.7. Transparent output. The sequence \X'anything' copi

mom example documents PDF conversions in Fedora 39 distribution

2024-01-23 Thread Oliver Corff
Hi, I just happened to notice that the PDF targets of the example documents of mom in my /usr/share/doc/groff/examples/mom/ directory (Fedora 39) seem to have been compiled without the -k option even though README.txt has the example command lines as well as an explicit mention of the -k option.