Re: Small offset in overlapping Polygons

2020-10-31 Thread Wim Stockman
Thank you Tadziu indeed when I put everything on one line it is perfect. Kind regards Wim Stockman Op za 31 okt. 2020 17:30 schreef Tadziu Hoffmann < hoffm...@usm.uni-muenchen.de>: > > The newline acts like a regular space between the two rectangles. > You can either draw the two rectangles on a

Re: [groff] 03/09: tmac/an-old.tmac: Stop remapping ` and '.

2020-10-31 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2020-10-31T15:58:00+0100, Jan Stary wrote: > Hi Branden, > > as an author of manpages for command-line utilities, I want to type > e.g. `this' into a manpage source like `this' because that's exactly > what you type on the cmdline and that's what I want the user to read > in the manpage. Okay.

Re: [bug #42233] [PATCH] wcwidth(3) used on UCS4/UTF-32 codepoints

2020-10-31 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Steffen, At 2020-10-21T15:18:29+0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > > Steffen has withdrawn most/all of his other patches and even after > > reading > > I do not know what this has to do with this bug. As I recall (dimly), you said something at some point that I perhaps misinterpreted--that you we

Re: [groff] 01/08: mdoc: Accept mixed-case section headings.

2020-10-31 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi, Steffen. Coming back to an old item of business. At 2020-09-29T19:12:00+1000, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > At 2020-09-28T22:57:37+0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > > Rereading the first messages of the thread ... i reiterated one of > > Ingo's statements in fact. > > Yes, I think the earlier d

Re: [groff] 03/09: tmac/an-old.tmac: Stop remapping ` and '.

2020-10-31 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Branden, G. Branden Robinson wrote on Sun, Nov 01, 2020 at 12:27:36AM +1100: > At 2020-10-31T13:55:08+0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Please take man.local out of the equation. Such a thing simply >> doesn't exist on FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, or Dragonfly, and it >> won't be created on OpenBSD.

Re: [DRAFT] Revised groff ms manual for review

2020-10-31 Thread Damian McGuckin
On Sun, 1 Nov 2020, Robert Thorsby wrote: The ease with which documents can be created in a layout that meets the author's (or publisher's) precise requirements is *roff's most important feature. Were Richard Steven's macros that he used with troff on his networking books ever published? J

Re: [DRAFT] Revised groff ms manual for review

2020-10-31 Thread Damian McGuckin
On Sun, 1 Nov 2020, Ingo Schwarze wrote: The ability to define macros to tackle the particular needs of an individual document is among the strengths of roff - and, as you recently documented, it has been since AT&T Version 3 UNIX in 1973. Well before my time! I'm regularly using a small num

Re: [DRAFT] Revised groff ms manual for review

2020-10-31 Thread Robert Thorsby
On 01/11/20 10:07:13, Ingo Schwarze wrote: G. Branden Robinson wrote on Sun, Nov 01, 2020 at 09:47:14AM +1100: > To achieve the above, I defined my own chapter macro. > This is not discouraged in ms, unlike in man(7) and mdoc(7). ... The ability to define macros to tackle the particular needs of

Re: [DRAFT] Revised groff ms manual for review

2020-10-31 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Branden, G. Branden Robinson wrote on Sun, Nov 01, 2020 at 09:47:14AM +1100: > To achieve the above, I defined my own chapter macro. > This is not discouraged in ms, unlike in man(7) and mdoc(7). You are completely right, and in view of some recent discussions that might mislead people when s

Re: [DRAFT] Revised groff ms manual for review

2020-10-31 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi, Karthik! At 2020-10-31T15:15:11+, Karthik Suresh wrote: > > I feel like I'm about 40% of my way through a huge update of Larry > > Kollar's ms.ms document, as promised earlier this year. > > This is very good news for people like me that are still new to troff > so thanks very much. You'

Re: Small offset in overlapping Polygons

2020-10-31 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
The newline acts like a regular space between the two rectangles. You can either draw the two rectangles on a single input line: \Z@...@\Z@...@ or hide the newline with a backslash: \Z@...@\ \Z@...@ Make sure there are no leading or trailing spaces.

Re: Small offset in overlapping Polygons

2020-10-31 Thread Richard Morse
> On Oct 31, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Wim Stockman wrote: > > Hi, > I made a macro to draw 2 filled rectangles on top of each other. > but if I draw them they are not exactly on top. There is a small offset on > the left. > Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong? > My goal is to make on rectangle

Re: [DRAFT] Revised groff ms manual for review

2020-10-31 Thread Karthik Suresh
I feel like I'm about 40% of my way through a huge update of Larry Kollar's ms.ms document, as promised earlier this year. This is very good news for people like me that are still new to troff so thanks very much. Anyway, I'd appreciate feedback, positive or negative, on the current state

Re: [groff] 03/09: tmac/an-old.tmac: Stop remapping ` and '.

2020-10-31 Thread Jan Stary
Hi Branden, as an author of manpages for command-line utilities, I want to type e.g. `this' into a manpage source like `this' because that's exactly what you type on the cmdline and that's what I want the user to read in the manpage. To be sure: are you proposing that manpage authors type somethi

Small offset in overlapping Polygons

2020-10-31 Thread Wim Stockman
Hi, I made a macro to draw 2 filled rectangles on top of each other. but if I draw them they are not exactly on top. There is a small offset on the left. Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong? My goal is to make on rectangle slightly bigger to draw a border but if the start isn't the same I'l

Re: [groff] 04/04: groff_mdoc(7): Update "Predefined strings".

2020-10-31 Thread Ingo Schwarze
G. Branden Robinson wrote on Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 11:52:33PM +1100: > At 2020-10-31T13:00:38+0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Hi Brandon, > D'oh! My vowels are discombobulated! Sorry! Let me undiscombobulate: Hi Branden, > I was kind of wondering why they were there, but I figured the designers

Re: [groff] 03/09: tmac/an-old.tmac: Stop remapping ` and '.

2020-10-31 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2020-10-31T13:55:08+0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Please take man.local out of the equation. Such a thing simply > doesn't exist on FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, or Dragonfly, and it > won't be created on OpenBSD. groff ships it. What do you do with it? > If the change isn't reverted in groff ups

Re: [groff] 03/09: tmac/an-old.tmac: Stop remapping ` and '.

2020-10-31 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Branden, G. Branden Robinson wrote on Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 02:41:32PM +1100: > No release has been made and several courses of action are possible. > > 1. Advise distributors and direct consumers of groff releases to apply >the remappings in their site man.local (and mdoc.local[2]) files)

Re: [groff] 04/04: groff_mdoc(7): Update "Predefined strings".

2020-10-31 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2020-10-31T13:00:38+0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi Brandon, D'oh! My vowels are discombobulated! > G. Branden Robinson wrote on Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 10:14:43PM -0400: > > > commit 9529b9f0ab2db7df0cd9dc79496eaf699772ae52 > > Author: G. Branden Robinson > > AuthorDate: Sat Oct 31 13:00:17 2

Re: [groff] 04/04: groff_mdoc(7): Update "Predefined strings".

2020-10-31 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Brandon, G. Branden Robinson wrote on Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 10:14:43PM -0400: > commit 9529b9f0ab2db7df0cd9dc79496eaf699772ae52 > Author: G. Branden Robinson > AuthorDate: Sat Oct 31 13:00:17 2020 +1100 > > groff_mdoc(7): Update "Predefined strings". > > This material seems not h