Re: [Groff] groff 1.22.3 not building on Fedora 22

2014-11-11 Thread Jan Chaloupka
Hi Werner, On 11/11/2014 08:18 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: [Please always address queries to the groff mailing list.] Thanks for reposting. Yeah, it is better and without noise in your mail. From: Jan Chaloupka Subject: groff 1.22.3 not building on Fedora 22 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:45:34 +

Re: [Groff] groff 1.22.3 not building on Fedora 22

2014-11-11 Thread Jan Chaloupka
Hi Ingo On 11/11/2014 08:51 PM, Ingo Schwarze wrote: Hi Werner and Jan, Werner LEMBERG wrote on Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 08:18:13PM +0100: Jan Chaloupka wrote: I was trying to update groff to 1.22.3 [1]. But Makefile is failing me :) There is the following error: make[2]: *** No rule to make tar

Re: [Groff] Strange error messages from Groff 1.22.3

2014-11-11 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Eli Zaretskii wrote: |> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:50:48 +0100 |> From: Steffen Nurpmeso |> |> Doug McIlroy wrote: |>|* For a ludicrous example, when I type my own name, |>| M. Douglas McIlroy |>|at the beginning of a line--as for a signature or author line-- |>|Open Office thinks that I

Re: [Groff] new automake system

2014-11-11 Thread Bertrand Garrigues
Hi all, > On Wed, Oct 08 2014 at 11:34:26 AM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: >>> Also, how will we proceed when we will consider that this automake >>> migration is ready for merge into master? The normal process would >>> be to squash all the commits into a single one on master, but given >>> the high n

Re: [Groff] Strange error messages from Groff 1.22.3

2014-11-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> cc: Eli Zaretskii > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 20:12:13 + > From: Ralph Corderoy > > Hi Keith, > > > > Hmm, does that mean the argv[] processing in groff's code is a place > > > to transliterate when it's known to be a filename? > > > > How can that possibly be known? When argv[] processing

Re: [Groff] Strange error messages from Groff 1.22.3

2014-11-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:46:22 + > From: Keith Marshall > CC: groff@gnu.org > > Perhaps Eli's explanation is overly simplistic. In reality, cmd.exe > doesn't process those directory separators, no matter whether they are > specified as slashes, (as POSIX and $DEITY mandate), or reversed >

Re: [Groff] Strange error messages from Groff 1.22.3

2014-11-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> cc: groff@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:20:19 + > From: Ralph Corderoy > > > > and so wrappers around the code that's cooking up the a\b\c in the > > > first place could transliterate there without caring where the a/b/c > > > is later to be used? > > > > The problem with this approa

Re: [Groff] Strange error messages from Groff 1.22.3

2014-11-11 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Keith, > > Hmm, does that mean the argv[] processing in groff's code is a place > > to transliterate when it's known to be a filename? > > How can that possibly be known? When argv[] processing is performed, > all we see is a sequence of strings; they have no semantic meaning. At some point,

Re: [Groff] groff 1.22.3 not building on Fedora 22

2014-11-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Werner and Jan, Werner LEMBERG wrote on Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 08:18:13PM +0100: > Jan Chaloupka wrote: >> I was trying to update groff to 1.22.3 [1]. >> But Makefile is failing me :) >> There is the following error: >> >> make[2]: *** No rule to make target >> '/builddir/build/BUILD/groff-1.22

Re: [Groff] Strange error messages from Groff 1.22.3

2014-11-11 Thread Keith Marshall
On 11/11/14 19:20, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Hi Eli, > > Thanks for the explanation. > >>> Am I right in thinking that Windows' API is as happy with a/b/c as >>> a\b\c >> >> That's correct. >> >>> and so wrappers around the code that's cooking up the a\b\c in the >>> first place could transliterate

Re: [Groff] Strange error messages from Groff 1.22.3

2014-11-11 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Eli, Thanks for the explanation. > > Am I right in thinking that Windows' API is as happy with a/b/c as > > a\b\c > > That's correct. > > > and so wrappers around the code that's cooking up the a\b\c in the > > first place could transliterate there without caring where the a/b/c > > is later

Re: [Groff] groff 1.22.3 not building on Fedora 22

2014-11-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[Please always address queries to the groff mailing list.] From: Jan Chaloupka Subject: groff 1.22.3 not building on Fedora 22 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:45:34 +0100 > I was trying to update groff to 1.22.3 [1]. But Makefile is failing > me :) There is the following error: > > make[2]: *** No

Re: [Groff] Strange error messages from Groff 1.22.3

2014-11-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:50:48 +0100 > From: Steffen Nurpmeso > > Doug McIlroy wrote: > |* For a ludicrous example, when I type my own name, > | M. Douglas McIlroy > |at the beginning of a line--as for a signature or author line-- > |Open Office thinks that I've begun a paragraph numbered

Re: [Groff] Strange error messages from Groff 1.22.3

2014-11-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 19:08:00 + > From: Ralph Corderoy > > One thing I think I've missed: why has this come to light now? Because I make a point of investigating any strange messages from the program, while those who came before me didn't? To put this in context, I bumped into this whe

Re: [Groff] Strange error messages from Groff 1.22.3

2014-11-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Doug McIlroy > Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 11:54:51 -0500 Sorry to reply only now, but I don't subscribe to the list, so I don't receive messages unless I'm explicitly CC'ed. > It is safe to convert backslashes to slashes only when it is > known that the literal string is indeed a file name.

Re: [Groff] mdoc(7) interpretation differences (maybe groff bug)

2014-11-11 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
|Ralph Corderoy wrote: ||> (For the list: mawk(1) requires a fflush("") in order to "getline < ||> NAME" a file NAME that has been written via "print >> NAME" before, ||> even though fflush("") is not standard and i cannot imagine a ||> situation where an awk(1) script would not like to see a

Re: [Groff] mdoc(7) interpretation differences (maybe groff bug)

2014-11-11 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Ralph Corderoy wrote: |> (For the list: mawk(1) requires a fflush("") in order to "getline < |> NAME" a file NAME that has been written via "print >> NAME" before, |> even though fflush("") is not standard and i cannot imagine a |> situation where an awk(1) script would not like to see a fflus

Re: [Groff] Strange error messages from Groff 1.22.3

2014-11-11 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Doug McIlroy wrote: |* For a ludicrous example, when I type my own name, | M. Douglas McIlroy |at the beginning of a line--as for a signature or author line-- |Open Office thinks that I've begun a paragraph numbered with |a Roman numeral, and proceeds to tack "MI." onto the beginning |of th

Re: [Groff] mdoc(7) interpretation differences (maybe groff bug)

2014-11-11 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Hallo Ingo, list, Ingo Schwarze wrote: |Steffen Nurpmeso wrote on Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 03:21:36PM +0100: |> Ok, but i really wonder now -- why? If it is normal that .Va and |> other requests extend until the next macro switches the current |> mode (the mdoc macros seem to transport significa

Re: [Groff] mdoc(7) interpretation differences (maybe groff bug)

2014-11-11 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Steffen, > (For the list: mawk(1) requires a fflush("") in order to "getline < > NAME" a file NAME that has been written via "print >> NAME" before, > even though fflush("") is not standard and i cannot imagine a > situation where an awk(1) script would not like to see a fflush("") on > NAME be