Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Strange characters with MM

2014-08-28 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> I too would rather not have some random space added for > historic purposes. I'm not saying I disagree. (In fact, I agree. My "mmt" version also had a no-op.) I was just giving a possible rationale for the recipe Ralph had dug up.

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Strange characters with MM

2014-08-28 Thread Blake McBride
I too would rather not have some random space added for historic purposes. Also, if those marks were on every page, it would have been expected that the paper would have been cut, as Carsten states, thus eliminating the extra space anyway, i.e. you'd never have the extra space. On Thu, Aug 28, 2

Re: [Groff] Problem with MM spacing

2014-08-28 Thread Blake McBride
Looks good. Thanks! On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > > Given MM input text: > > > > .nr Hb 0 > > .nr Hs 0 > > .nr Hi 0 > > .H 1 A > > .P > > Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their party. > > .H 2 B > > .P > > Now is the t

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Strange characters with MM

2014-08-28 Thread Carsten Kunze
> However, one good reason for replacing the dashes by spaces > (instead of completely deleting the line) is that it won't > mess up the vertical spacing, if the macro package is > designed to rely on it. If the cut mark would be needed it would be cut away later (at the final paper output). So

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Strange characters with MM

2014-08-28 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> So it seems as if it's historically normal to struggle with > mm's crop marks. I have an old "mmt" file on my computer that simply has .de)k .. but I can't remember whether that's the way it was provided or I had perhaps edited it... However, one good reason for replacing the dashes by s

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Strange characters with MM

2014-08-28 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Carsten, > And I found an interesting post at > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/groff/2008-11/msg00024.html I had a search too. http://typewritten.org/Articles/SGI/007-6103-020.pdf 4.2.3 Removing “Cut Marks” The standard macro package supplied with DWB, mm, prints small dashed

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Strange characters with MM

2014-08-28 Thread Carsten Kunze
It's decided. I copy the line .if!^G\*(.T^Gaps^G .rm )k from P9P mmt to Heirlooms mmt. Sorry for the lot of posts

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Strange characters with MM

2014-08-28 Thread Carsten Kunze
> If I process the following MM document: > > Hello > > with: troff -mm file.mm |dpost >file.ps > > file.ps has (in addition to what you would expect) two dashes in the upper > left of the page, and two dashes in the top right of the page. > > groff -mm file.mm >file.ps > > works correctly (w

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Generating doc/ files

2014-08-28 Thread Ted Harding
On 27-Aug-2014 22:39:23 Dale Snell wrote: > On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:04:27 -0400 > Doug McIlroy wrote: > >> Groff is open source. A conscientious author will strive >> to make source--the whole source including documentation--as >> easily portable as possible. Documentation created in the back >> r

Re: [Groff] Problem with MM spacing

2014-08-28 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Werner, > > Groff produces output in which the section headers are overwritten > > by the paragraph text. > > This should be fixed now in git, please test. LGTM. BTW, this is a regression that could be caught by simple -Tascii-level tests of a `make check'. I know we think PDF comparisons a

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Generating doc/ files

2014-08-28 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi, Werner wrote: > Mhmm. According to my dictionary `libertine' has more than a single > meaning, some of them fitting into the idea of a freely available > font. It's not restricted to `rake'. Right. http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/libertine says Noun ... 2.

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Strange characters with MM

2014-08-28 Thread Carsten Kunze
> If I process the following MM document: > > Hello > > with: troff -mm file.mm |dpost >file.ps > > file.ps has (in addition to what you would expect) two dashes in the upper > left of the page, and two dashes in the top right of the page. DWB mmt contains the lines: '\" Cutmarks generate

Re: [Groff] [Heirloom] Strange characters with MM

2014-08-28 Thread Carsten Kunze
> If I process the following MM document: > > Hello > > with: troff -mm file.mm |dpost >file.ps > > file.ps has (in addition to what you would expect) two dashes in the upper > left of the page, and two dashes in the top right of the page. That may be crop marks indroduced by Solaris (had been