Re: [Groff] Mission statement, second draft

2014-03-20 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Anton, > > I read _The TeXbook_ and returned to troff. The input language of > > troff is superior for mark-up that doesn't clutter the prose > > Nobody I know of uses raw tex nowadays. I'd advise against reading > The TeXbook. For people who just want to get their standard > technical/scie

Re: [Groff] ms TOC wanting - new macro - comments?

2014-03-20 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
I sent this to the list yesterday, but seems it didn't reach it, so trying to send again. ms table of contents (TOC) facilities are poor. The groff manual agrees with me. Moreover it suggests that NH macro should be modified [1]. Here's an easy macro that helps. Any comments? Anton $ cat msext.t

Re: [Groff] Mission statement, second draft

2014-03-20 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
>To: groff@gnu.org >Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 13:06:29 + >From: Ralph Corderoy > >I read _The TeXbook_ and returned to troff. The input language of troff >is superior for mark-up that doesn't clutter the prose, e.g. often small Nobody I know of uses raw tex nowadays. I'd advise against reading

Re: [Groff] Mission statement, second draft

2014-03-20 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Steve, > > * Strange, irregular, archaic-seeming markup design compared to XML > > or even TeX. Brian Kernignan called it "rebarbative" in *1979*. > > Groff is a filter. The input language, the markup, etc., is entirely > arbitary. I read _The TeXbook_ and returned to troff. The input langu

Re: [Groff] Mission statement, second draft

2014-03-20 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi, Werner wrote: > Please do me a favour: Don't call this `hygienic'. Say `restricted' > instead. http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/B/bondage-and-discipline-language.html `.bnd'? :-) Cheers, Ralph.

Re: [Groff] Mission statement, second draft

2014-03-20 Thread Pierre-Jean
Hello alls, Deri James wrote: > If I have misunderstood Eric's intentions with regard to the purpose of > introducing the .hygiene command, then it would be very helpful if he could > elucidate further. The .hygiene command is an interesting debate. I don't exactly know what to think about

Re: [Groff] gnuplot

2014-03-20 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
>From: James Cloos >To: groff@gnu.org >Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 17:59:09 -0400 > >Gnuplot would like an example document showcasing troff+pic, using >gnuplot's gpic terminal to generate the pic, for regression testing. > >Does anyone have one handy? > >-JimC >-- >James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/

Re: [Groff] Mission statement, second draft

2014-03-20 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Werner LEMBERG : > Please do me a favour: Don't call this `hygienic'. Say `restricted' > instead. Today, technical English for software must satisfy some > constraints, IMHO, and one of them is the avoidance of `colourful' > terms that might call unwanted associations, especially if there are > a