marked experimental: it was dropped from stable
during the 23.0 announcement, but is being marked as stable again:
https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/35871
Rationale:
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Making 17.1 exp immediately gives the impression that it's formally
deprecated, which it isn't yet.
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x27;s more, neither gtk nor libsoup was mentioned this morning, and I haven't
>sync'd in the interim.
Why should they have been mentioned, if they are only needed (marked as "New",
not updated) because you're trying to install webkit-gtk from scratch?
>You see why I'm mystified - unless I've messed up my scripts, of course.
>
> Does your emerge command include --getbinpkg, or -g?
>
>Of course; I /am/ doing my best to follow the instructions verbatim.
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se for all packages that FreeCAD and KiCAD
depend on, specifically, to add the 3.11 impl support. It will take a
bit of USE flag tweaking, admittedly, to resolve the dependency list,
but there's no particular reason you need *every* package to install for
both 3.11 and 3.12.
> [1]
> h
s-apps/portage does provide a library which python 3.11
applications may need to import.
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ions for the event that you wish to delay it.
Please criticize the defaults, without accusations of "force".
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was upcoming, so you
could plan your maintenance around it. You were given instructions on
how to opt out of the change. The instructions work -- you can follow
them and as a result not deal with any python 3.12 upgrade at all.
Gentoo provides you the tools to control your system with this
sp
r time engaging with
people that didn't try to make them feel bad about contributing to open
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id not read the news item
- you read the news item, but decided to NOT defer the upgrade, and
instead tried to mix both python 3.11 and python 3.12 together on your
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On 6/4/24 4:58 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Note that it's not a build failure -- it is an upgrade calculation
>> failure. It fails before upgrading any packages since it knows it can't
>> resolve the dependencies.
>
&
ts need to be indexed to maintainers as well,
> because getting a list of 1000 package names that need updating
> doesn't help a maintainer to notice that they happen to maintain the
> one on line 387.
And indeed, the list includes the names of the maint
On 6/4/24 11:04 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote:
>> If a package claimed to support python 3.12 and nonetheless failed to
>> build with it, that's a bug in the package -- can you provide more details?
>
> IIRC, the first one was pycxx.
On 6/5/24 4:27 AM, hitachi303 wrote:
> Am 04.06.24 um 22:34 schrieb Eli Schwartz:
>> - you read the news item, but decided to NOT defer the upgrade, and
>> instead tried to mix both python 3.11 and python 3.12 together on your
>> system
>
>
> I do have one q
ruly identical', conflicts arising from
> USE flag changes are relatively common, at least in my experience. And
> this is part and parcel of having the flexibility that Gentoo offers us.
> I've learnt to deal with it and more often than not the solution is
> reasonably str
ing the rebuilds. If you are
getting dependency conflicts with the one-step process (emerge -puDU
@world) then steps 2 and 3 are likely not going to be able to be fully
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e upon reading, that UEFI mandates support for fat 12, but
permits a conforming implementation only support it for "removable media".
The firmware MUST support filesystem drivers for fat 12 / 16 / 32 in
order to satisfy this requirement, but is allowed to decline t
in /var/tmp/portage.
You can disable this FEATURES if you want.
In https://bugs.gentoo.org/934382 portage is adding additional options:
--jobs-merge-wait-threshold=X will cause portage to stop starting new
jobs when X number of packages are in pending-merge state, and portage
will copy the installe
}
So, setting MAKEOPTS is usually sufficient to affect parallel
compilation in all ebuilds.
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all toolchain-related packages.
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e versions:
* ${PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT}/etc/portage/savedconfig/
* [${CTARGET}|${CHOST}|""]/${CATEGORY}/[${PF}|${P}|${PN}]
I admit that this is a bit hard to analyze...
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gnome-extra/cinnamon-screensaver-6.0.3
>
> Thanks a lot for your help.
Waiting for https://bugs.gentoo.org/935054 to stabilize. Consider
package.accept_keywords for cinnamon-session in the meantime.
See also https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/36989
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>
> If getuto can't create the directory with safe permissions, what chance do I
> have?
GnuPG is incorrect, and the permissions aren't unsafe.
It is claiming they are unsafe because users other than root can see the
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Ope
repeats them at
the end for you.
It doesn't matter because the package manager already rebuilds pretty
much all perl modules. Running perl-cleaner is advised "in case portage
missed something" which probably means "it wasn't part of @world".
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appear faster for you.
Note that independent of whether it's useful to exclude this one
package, the functionality doesn't work. You cannot set per-package
getbinpkg, this is tracked as https://bugs.gentoo.org/463964
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On 7/14/24 8:04 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Sunday, 14 July 2024 07:05:04 BST Eli Schwartz wrote:
>
>> As a matter of curiosity, why do you need to do any such thing at all?
>>
>> If there is no binary package available for portage yet, then portage
>> will auto
d people having other things to do with
their time. Hopefully we'll only need to wait another couple of months
for it to be full solved. :)
Please do consider watching https://bugs.gentoo.org/924772 for further
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n stable, which was a small mistake during stabilization. and
eclass bumping. It was shortly after rectified by removing the outdated
mask in profiles/base/use.stable.mask
Try syncing again. The llvm 18 slot bump was 8 hours ago, and the
use.stable.mask fix was 4 hours ago.
The bug for this is really just https://bugs.gentoo.org/935984#c13 (the
stabilization bug for llvm 18).
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it without people
noticing that it does it.
Some of those packages are only bdeps, and you can feel free to e.g.
delete poetry via emerge -c --with-bdeps=n once you're done updating.
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On 7/29/24 2:05 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2024-07-29, Eli Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> It turns out dev-python/poetry has nothing to do with poetry, so my AI
>>> paranoia was unjustified (this time), but one wonders what devs are
>>> thinking when the decide they
qa/policy-guide/installed-files.html#pg0305
But what we can do is build the manpages ourselves and add an extra
SRC_URI to download that. And in this case it's a royal pain to package,
including the fact that it requires sphinxcontrib-towncrier which has
never released any version that isn't an alpha... amazing...
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ease/deps/libuluru-f904b7de1acd12fc.rmeta
--extern
unicode_bidi=/var/tmp/portage/www-client/firefox-128.0.3/work/firefox_build/x86_64-unknown-linux-musl/release/deps/libunicode_bidi-237bea115ce1ae16.rmeta
--extern
void=/var/tmp/portage/www-client/firefox-128.0.3/work/firefox_build/x86_64-unknown-l
python applets+libs I have are the ones that
are already installed, which sometimes have new versions available but
those are upgrades, not new packages.
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upport -march=x86-64-v3 but perhaps the old one
doesn't.
If you plan to recompile all packages with -march=native immediately
after you swap anyway, then it doesn't really matter, just use "x86-64"
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argets the -march=x86-64-v3 seriesdsfe. No "v2" or "v4" packages there,
I'm afraid. :)
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eyring.
There are exactly two current implementations of a secret-service API
provider:
- gnome-keyring
- keepassxc
And that is how keepassxc comes to be a "dependency" of the @system set.
Due to optional USE flags. :)
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On 8/22/24 11:38 AM, ralfconn wrote:
> Il 22/08/24 06:50, Eli Schwartz ha scritto:
>>
>> emerging portage itself, will require gnupg as a dependency, and in
>> turn that means app-crypt/pinentry If pinentry is built with
>> USE=keyring, it requires app-crypt/lib
pinentry->gnupg->gcr
Ah yes, USE=gtk (adding gcr in as a dep) is an alternative to
USE=keyring for this purpose.
By the way it's not a circular dependency because gcr uses PDEPEND to
indicate that it is acceptable to merge gnupg after gcr itself, as long
as they both end up
?:0
> 0x8ccda1 gt_ggc_mx_lang_tree_node(void*)
> ???:0
Yeah, clang especially isn't a very rare package. And you're getting
errors that range from frontend crashes to GC crashes. This is very
unlikely to be a compiler bug on a specific file with unusual code.
An issue
-Wimplicit-int, -Wimplicit-function-declaration,
> and whatever other warnings that program raises... but then you have to
> actually compile the rest of it with a new GCC. Good luck :)
It shouldn't be *that* hard.
https://bugs.gentoo.org/923112#c13
And as Sam noted:
"""
RIVATE_API".
I have a script which can detect that for existing binaries:
https://git.sr.ht/~eschwartz/dotfiles/tree/master/item/bin/pkg-list-linked-libraries
e.g.
pkg-list-linked-libraries -s /usr/lib64 Qt_6_PRIVATE_API
It will report a bunch of results for dev-qt/* packages too, but with a
bit
it under your usual workloads and
then activate "make localmodconfig" via that database without worrying
about "an important module I often use was not loaded today specifically
because I didn't run the program which needs it today. Now the newly
built kernel doesn't have that module at all, oops".
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rt to become slow and unreliable first -- and regularly
refreshing the urls means that when a mirror doesn't disappear but does
change its directory structure, you end up with the preferred structure.
But of course the default mirror can work fine as well (albeit often a
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location for "old releases", which
is charmingly venomous behavior -- and they are not the only ones. ;)
But fix your GENTOO_MIRRORS and things should be fine.
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Mirrorselect is a tool for selecting a good, up to date mirror and
filtering for geographic closeness and download speed.
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ram is responsible for knowing what a dash is or does. It
tries first to treat it as an option, and that's why "--" works --
because it tells "mv" itself to stop treating it as an option, and to
treat it as a filename instead.
That is also why "./---new.avi" works. All filenames (except those
starting with / such as /home or /usr, of course) can have an added
directory at the beginning, and the obvious one is ./ but you could also
use "$PWD/---new.avi" if you wanted. Since it doesn't start with a dash,
it can't be an option.
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olv.conf is a regular file or does not
exist, NetworkManager will write the file directly.
file: NetworkManager will write /etc/resolv.conf as regular
file.
unmanaged: don't touch /etc/resolv.conf.
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hat Peter read (when saying "the Network Manager man page says to
chattr") to overlook the fact that the manpage is fairly clear in the
only place it talks about chattr, that chattr is not your only option.
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lag only asks whether to delete all listed
> packages or none, not each package individually. What I would prefer is
> an interface by which _I_ specify which packages are to be removed.
Implementing a per-package ask seems like it would be challenging, as it
would have to go back and recalculate which packages can still be asked
about if you respond "no" to some package that other packages depend on.
It does sound like an interesting idea though -- maybe worth submitting
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uot;--quiet" option is a bug
> or a feature. Opinions?
An interactive user should be able to see how long they are going to
wait for a download to complete. That's why wget defaults to this.
If users wish to not have that feedback, they can define FETCHCOMMAND in
make.conf to c
whys and
more about whether the documentation is correct, so that's what I will
address).
I don't really see that part of the documentation as being in error.
Although I suppose I also don't see any harm in rewording it for
additional clarity. I'm not sure exactly how to reword it...
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::gentoo on September 13. It wouldn't have been in the news.
Here is the announcement:
https://public-inbox.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev-announce/7f786219-b478-46b2-ab5c-d2a805727...@gentoo.org/
The recommended replacement was nss-pam-ldapd.
You can keep using pa
On 11/13/24 10:14 AM, Michael wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 November 2024 15:12:06 GMT Eli Schwartz wrote:
>> The recommended replacement was nss-pam-ldapd.
>>
>> You can keep using pam_ldap if you prefer, from a local overlay.
>
> The wiki suggests 'sys-auth/sssd'
g satisfied by sys-apps/man-db.
>
> Before I list everything I've already checked and tried, does anyone
> immediately recognize this issue? Can anyone else reproduce it?
It may be related to Gentoo's unusual use of $MANPATH to hide slotted
manpages outside of /usr/share/man
?
I assure you you'd get quite sick and tired of the constant news items
if that actually happened.
P.S. Yes, I disabled the wayland USE as well. I'm not trying to push
wayland on you, don't worry.
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g it may be damaging to your system.
to make sure you are fully aware that you intend to depclean a package
that *might* be the wrong one.
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lines in a text file and one
`sysctl` command away, without even needing to reboot.
All it takes is people not running around like headless chickens.
All it takes is people not claiming that the Gentoo Developers have
"infamously made a USE flag change that made everyone's systems suddenly
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On 9/24/24 6:00 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 05:11:14PM -0400, Eli Schwartz wrote
>
>> Do you have that little faith in the Gentoo Developers, that you
>> think we'd make a USE flag change that made everyone's systems
>> suddenly break?
>
nation of why it's an issue it could be understood why it was
assumed to be a personal support request.
It is not a bug in portage, which is part of the confusion here. It is a
bug in virtual/service-manager.
I reopened the bug report, corrected the description, and assigned it.
https://bugs.gentoo.org/803878
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it was not
"upstream says it's a dependency, so it's a dependency". :) Please open
a bug report for it. Thanks.
...
Overall I think that these phantom wayland dependencies are an artifact
of Electron's constant churn and the fact that every application using
electron basically bundles its own inconsistent copy of it.
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> services.
If you want all 3, then virtual/editor isn't an appropriate way to
install a large collection of apps. Add them to your world file.
virtual/editor doesn't restrict how many editors you have installed, it
simply requires you have at least one.
And it shouldn't require that any editors you install, cannot be
uninstalled with --depclean
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the implications of such a thing, and reassigned that bug to the correct
package with a fixed explanation. And perhaps you should have
communicated better why it's a problem for you to install daemontools
*without intending to* and having that affect openrc. For example, by
highlighting that daemontools isn't being used as a service manager and
you do not believe installing "ordinary applications such as qmail"
should be allowed to override your choice of init system.
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a
challenging endeavor and there is very little competition at all.
(It is fascinating that there is actually any competition at all. But
Ladybird does exist, somehow!)
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> page recommended for Redhat based distros...
It is specific to the linux kernel, that is all. You may replace "all"
with the name of a machine-specific interface (as listed by "ip addr")
to express settings that are specific to a given interface. Most peo
ervice definitions for openrc and systemd out
of the box but beyond that you are on your own... :)
Both problems are easy to solve, I'm sure.
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On 11/17/24 2:24 AM, Philip Webb wrote:
> 241117 Eli Schwartz wrote:
>> Portage told you which info to post when asking for help.
>> Please include this information
>> and in particular note that it says to post the *complete* log:
>>> * If you need support, pos
too'`.
> * The complete build log is located at
> '/var/log/emerge-logs/gnome-base:librsvg-2.57.3-r2:20241117-062927.log'.
> * For convenience, a symlink to the build log is located at
> '/var/tmp/portage/portage/gnome-base/librsvg-2.57.3-r2/temp/build.log'.
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es in /var/db/pkg/*/* and
checking which ones have a file called BINPKGMD5 in them. Those were
installed from a binpackage. Try installing all the rest with --ask,
check if it says [binary] or [ebuild], and repeat after manually
narrowing the list to just the ones that offer binaries.
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nd time.
> "--binpkg-respect-use=y" makes no difference as emerge(1) suggests this
> is the default.
It is only the default when using --getbinpkg, not when you are instead
using --getbinpkgonly.
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have a new "DOWNLOAD_TIMESTAMP:" field but you
can ignore that specific line. A timestamp of December 2 is definitely
way too old.
...
So the two possibilities I can think of are that:
- you ran --pretend as non-root, so emerge couldn't update the index
- you usually update with -uDU --getbinpkg, and didn't pass --getbinpkg
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uot;make.conf". I will try with that option re-
> moved.
>
> Thanks for reminding me :-)
>
> Sincerely,
> Rainer
Yes, with emerge --pretend it will still print the same message to the
console. It will be suppressed by --quiet.
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revent emerge
from ignoring these binary packages if possible.
Using --binpkg-respect-use=y will silence this warning.
If the issue is USE flags, then that will tell you. The lines printed
are valid package.use lines which would cause you to start using that
binary pac
rapid changing much more frequently I suspect there's less
interest in having it stabilized as it would mostly tend to make users
recompile the package much more frequently, and it takes quite a long
time... this is funnily enough why I'd love to have rapid in the
binhost, but also why it *c
ture based on
your binhost uri. For example, my cached copy is at:
/var/cache/edb/binhost/gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/amd64/binpackages/23.0/x86-64-v3/Packages
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that it is not, in fact, a "KDE-6 pkg" after all. :)
> Why indeed is KDE-5 still supported anywhere in Gentoo ?
Because not everything has been ported to KDE 6 just because plasma has
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to be a small collection of a few
tools extracted from the systemd source code -- using the systemd-utils
package at all, implies you aren't using systemd (in fact, systemd-utils
will conflict with systemd! portage will not let you install systemd, if
systemd-utils is currently installed), and thus per definition the
systemd-utils package can't have any cause for concern with regard to
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uot;it" constitutes.
- who told you to emerge @preserved-rebuild, what was it in relation to,
what was the dependency graph that claimed it was installing nouveau?
- "I get a load of invalid-package warnings. I just assumed that was
harmless". Failure to delete a useless unneeded file is most likely
harmless, yes. More details would require you saying more here.
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then it's just a matter of time.
The binhost starts up at around 5am each day, runs for a bit, and
publishes all packages for the day. I usually sync around noon. More
details at
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gentoo_Binary_Host_Quickstart#I_used_to_have_a_binary_package_but_not_anymore.2C_what_happened.3F
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>
> Also, where do I put lvm19 --what is portage looking for?
Portage isn't asking you to do anything with llvm19. "A subset of the
following complete expression" just means that portage is providing
additional full diagnostic information about the *entire* package
details. The screencast part is the only issue.
llvm19 is enabled and forced by default anyway.
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On 12/9/24 5:02 PM, Philip Webb wrote:
> 241209 Eli Schwartz wrote:
>> In general, you can use the -t option to emerge,
>> which tells you exactly, which dependencies are required for what.
>
> Thanx for your v prompt response. I do use -t sometimes.
>
>> In t
not say what the
error message actually is.
Also, "packages are masked to your use flags" doesn't make any sense to me.
Please post the actual error message you get. If the error message is
very long, feel free to add it as a text file attachment. :)
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ewly released versions). Feel free to unmask.
> For point 2, I admit that I don't quite understand the creation of this new
> file (steam) and all these new flags, whereas in my original file (use) I
> had the line */* abi_x86_32.
> Thank you in advance for your insightful opinions.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Jacques
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nd absolutely not what anyone wants (especially since it
does not prevent pip from deleting or overwriting files managed by
portage), but that it ***will*** be used anyway because it allows
avoiding a pip patch.
Here is my 2023 updated patch for pip, it still applies today without
additional mainten
es, it's just that since the entire
package has been redesigned to use upstream binaries it is no longer
considered worth investing time and effort into the old ebuild.
The new ebuild will be stabilized hopefully within the month anyway so I
would just wait for that and ignore qtx11extras for n
a standalone rust and uploads it.
libreoffice-bin is entirely gentoo-built for the original purpose of
being a stopgap measure instead of a binhost. It may eventually go away.
The others are arguably useful inasmuch as users may want to test the
official Mozilla etc production binaries.
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together some kind of
shell script if you're sufficiently motivated.
Really though, I'm fine with emerge --sync and then emerge -puDU @world
and just going away and coming back later IFF I notice it is asking to
build packages from source that I don't expect to build from source.
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v-qt/qtbase:6[gui,widgets] )
"
But the -bin package appears to provide this plugin without announcing
its dependencies at all. It's not a X11Extras specific thing.
One could argue that nothing forces this plugin to be used, I suppose...
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gainst a baseline that libreoffice developers can compare
with). It's actually pretty common that most *-bin packages are about
upstream prebuilt binaries.
So basically what happened is that libreoffice-bin now bundles all its
dependencies.
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On 2/28/25 12:05 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2025-02-28, Eli Schwartz wrote:
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>> Back in the day, libreoffice-bin was a version of libreoffice that was
>> built by Gentoo developers against Gentoo packages, and hosted as a
>> prebuilt tarball. It required specifi
/bugs.gentoo.org/951055
Note that the fix was to MASK a package version which was only available
in ~arch, you will need to downgrade that package.
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linker isn't specific
to that version in the first place.
You can also pass -C linker=clang if you like. Portage will already do
this for rust software packaged in ::gentoo.
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On 3/20/25 11:54 AM, Nate Eldredge wrote:
> On Mar 20, 2025, at 00:07 Eli Schwartz wrote:
>> You can also pass -C linker=clang if you like. Portage will
>> already do this for rust software packaged in ::gentoo.
>
> Well, not across the board, it seems, because I became awar
base install directory."
> $ ./configure --with-pdo-firebird
>
> I'd really like to do that, but how?
Read the manpage for `man make.conf` and look for references to EXTRA_ECONF.
You will want to do this via package.env, obviously, not
/etc/portage/make.conf itself.
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t on using dbus-broker rather than dbus-daemon, even
> though the latter is perfectly adequate for most people's needs
> (including my own).
and I think I very much agree with you here. If people really want to
use dbus-broker, let them, but don't try to make portage install it for
them as it will simply cause no end of trouble.
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can be used without a constantly changing version
number. Even if the only project information is a generated
documentation page, it is standard operating procedure for software to
have a documentation site where {site}/latest/ is the docs for the
current version, and {site}/1.0.0/ is t
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