Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-19 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:55 PM, pk wrote: > On 2013-08-19 19:05, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > > I'm beginning to think you are a troll since you consistently > misinterpret what I'm trying to say. This is the last thing I will say > in this matter: Your "

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-19 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
f you generate an initramfs with Dracut using the systemd module, the init inside the initramfs is a link to /usr/lib/systemd/systemd. Unless you want to learn the ins and outs of using an initramfs (and having a lot of fun and failed boots in the process), I highly recommend using Dracut. It does everything for you. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 01:54:26AM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote >> >> No, the kernel has a mini filesystem (doesn't matter which directory >> structure has inside), and it executes the init script (or binary >

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
cript for your "emerge -whatever world" command, and add "dracut -f -H" afterwards, and then only upgrade your world with that script. That way, *every* time you upgrade your world, you update your initramfs. It adds 10-30 seconds to your upgrade time, but the initramfs is always in sync. I only update my initramfs after a kernel update, but I follow vanilla-sources, so that is every other week or something like that. I have an script that compiles the new kernel, installs it, generates the initramfs, and updates the GRUB (or GRUB2) config file, so everything is automatized. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] ntpd crashes, system set to UTC

2013-08-23 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
3.gentoo.pool.ntp.org >> driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift >> restrict default nomodify nopeer noquery >> restrict 127.0.0.1 > > What am I doing wrong? Where should I look for more information on the > problem? ntpd should not crash no matter what, but what is /etc/localtime? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] having problems building webkit-gtk

2013-08-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
gt; anyway, but how could that possibly help? The problem seems to be in the output of a command being too long (or so I remember from the two occasions I have encountered it). I don't understand it either. I remember that I had to use the -j1 trick, and also that I ssh'd to the machine, I started a screen session, and from there did the build (with X not running). It only has happened to me in my desktop machine (with an NVidia card). Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-26 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ilman [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I don't have any for innd. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-26 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, wrote: >> Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been >> able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script >> by itself. >&g

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-26 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés >> wrote: >> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, wrote: >> >> Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, wrote: >> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> > >> >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés >> >> wrote: >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM, wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, wrote: >> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, wrote: >> >> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:39 AM, wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM, wrote: >> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, wrote: >> >> > Canek Peláez Valdés

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
if you have the init scripts for them it should be easy to write the corresponding unit files. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 27.08.2013 18:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger >> wrote: >>> >>> While we are at it ... >>> >>> I am currently mi

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
he systemd team, so they add the unit file if the maintainer takes too much to acknowledge the bug. I haven't done it myself with all the units I already have, I haven't gotten the time. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
scripts in /etc/init.d > For sure this migration wasn't really *necessary* for me but kind of an > exercise and if I find the time and motivation to file all the bugs > other gentoo-users might benefit in the future. Thanks for doing that. > I am gonna test-drive this setup now by

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
. Reboot. Everything works. GRUB2 handles LVM just fine, I believe, but my LVM setup was dead simple (the VG was just the only partition of all my disks). dracut+systemd takes care of everything else; I didn't even had to do something special in fstab, since I used labels. To extend/redu

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM, wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> As James said, the docs are being reorganized. However, I did a >> systemd+LVM installation (just because I was getting tired of not >> knowing what the fuss was all about

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:45 PM, wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM, wrote: >>> >>> I have experience with LVM, but not systemd or dracut or initramfs >>> >>> * both grub and grub2 sup

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
es a pretty good job, but it's easier with Type=simple. Type=forking is there for old daemons that don't have a --foreground or similar option. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 12:21 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >>On Thu, Aug 29 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM, wrote: >>>> >>>> I have experience with LVM, but not systemd or dracut or i

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-30 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 30/08/2013 07:36, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 12:21 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >>>> On Thu, Aug 29 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>>> >

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-30 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
pport a separate /usr without an initramfs. And for a good reason: is braindead. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?

2013-08-30 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-08-30 10:28 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> udev/eudev has nothing to do with it. It's the init systems (as in >> both systemd and OpenRC) the ones that are pushing/have pushed for >> dropping suppor

Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-31 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
1255 2 ext4,bluetooth mbcache 4450 3 ext2,ext3,ext4 jbd2 48679 1 ext4 Isn't great what an initramfs can do? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-31 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
loading what's necessary. Thus, my kernel (the one running in memory) is as minimal as it can be, all the time. Oh, and one more thing; by having everything as a module, if suddenly I need support for new hardware, usually I can do a quick "make menuconfig; make modules_install", and the

[gentoo-user] kerninst (was Optional /usr merge in Gentoo)

2013-09-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
6 [3] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/87015 -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] kerninst (was Optional /usr merge in Gentoo)

2013-09-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 01.09.2013 19:30, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > >> I have been using it in all of my machines for some days now, and it >> works for me; but I take no responsibility if it breaks your machine, >> or if it ki

Re: [gentoo-user] kerninst (was Optional /usr merge in Gentoo)

2013-09-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés > wrote: >> >> • If /usr/src/linux points to /usr/src/linux-3.10.10, then the script >> deletes /boot vmlinuz-3.10.10, /boot/initrd-3.10.10 *and* >>

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and LUKS

2013-09-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
y os_prober. Are you sure it's not under the "advanced" submenu? One question: how is the /etc/fstab file in the systemd installation? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] kerninst (was Optional /usr merge in Gentoo)

2013-09-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 03.09.2013 18:34, schrieb Douglas J Hunley: >> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >>> eclean-kernel cleans *older* versions of kernel.s The part of the >>> script yo

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and LUKS

2013-09-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
--- (You can use the new ip command, but ifconfig is still the one installed by default in Gentoo). Or if you need something more complicated, you can put it in several ExecStart lines, or put it in a script and call that. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: must I mask gnome-3.8 until I am running systemd

2013-09-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
n installed, but that doesn't mean you will need to uninstall OpenRC. However, several GNOME packages (including gdm, if I'm not mistaken) will fail if not running with systemd as PID=1. I don't know how well it works OpenRC parallel installed with systemd, I haven't used it in years. Regards. [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373219 -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] No mailer for Gentoo???

2013-09-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Jarry wrote: >> On 06-Sep-13 17:32, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >>> >>> On 09/06/2013 11:23 AM, Jarry wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>

Re: [gentoo-user] No mailer for Gentoo???

2013-09-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Jarry wrote: > On 06-Sep-13 18:14, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Jarry wrote: >>> >>> On 06-Sep-13 17:32, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 09/06/2013

Re: [gentoo-user] No mailer for Gentoo???

2013-09-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
d *nix mailer (/usr/bin/sendmail) exists on the system... > > So now I have "stable" system, updated to the latest level, > where a lot of things suddenly do not work. This should *never* > happen! If it was some package's dep that caused it, it's clear > this change was premature... I think is a bug in the packages. In my system the only package that pulls vitual/mta (and therefore ssmtp) is vixie-cron. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] digikam + systemd

2013-09-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Philip Webb wrote: >> I just did 'emerge -pv digikam' for 3.3.0 >> & it wants to install 54 pkgs, incl systemd ; >> 10 pkgs are KDE & include Marble. >

Re: [gentoo-user] digikam + systemd

2013-09-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Philip Webb wrote: > 130906 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Philip Webb wrote: >>> I just did 'emerge -pv digikam' for 3.3.0 >>> & it wants to install 54 pkgs, incl systemd ; >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: must I mask gnome-3.8 until I am running systemd

2013-09-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:27 PM, wrote: > On Thu, Sep 05 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:19 PM, walt wrote: >>> On 09/05/2013 05:43 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >>>> [I will be going to systemd since it is aparently required for >

Re: [gentoo-user] digikam + systemd

2013-09-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
; > Adding -kmod to the USE list gets 54 pkgs, incl systemd , > which I've masked in package.mask with "sys-fs/systemd". sys-apps/systemd, right? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Deficient Gnome Window Frames

2013-09-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
keyboard layout > indicator. At first, it did not work, that is, > I could not switch a keyboard layout in no way. However, later, after > changing some of the plugin's > settings, it suddenly started to switch the keyboard layout. Interestingly, > the applet continued to switch

Re: [gentoo-user] digikam + systemd

2013-09-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Philip Webb wrote: > 130906 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Philip Webb wrote: >>> (1) Portage wants USE="plasma". >>> (2) kipi-plugins -> k3b -> USE="udisks". >>> (3)

Re: [gentoo-user] digikam + systemd

2013-09-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
e from GNOME), you can pull *by default* systemd. However, I'm pretty sure you can configure out systemd without too much problem (if you don't use GNOME 3, that is). Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] No mailer for Gentoo???

2013-09-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Jarry wrote: > On 06-Sep-13 18:29, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Jarry wrote: >>> >>> On 06-Sep-13 18:14, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri,

Re: [gentoo-user] No mailer for Gentoo???

2013-09-07 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Pavel Volkov wrote: > On Friday 06 September 2013 11:21:33 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> From the commit log: "Per extensive discussion with zmedico about >> removing the need for package.provided, several packages have been >> changed, li

Re: [gentoo-user] re: can't find /boot/grub/grub.conf after kernel upgrade [3.10.7]

2013-09-07 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ntoo > > What did I miss? Do you have /boot in a separated partition? Did you mounted it? Nothing should touch /boot, AFAIK. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] re: can't find /boot/grub/grub.conf after kernel upgrade [3.10.7]

2013-09-07 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On 09/07/2013 09:11 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Alexander Kapshuk >> wrote: >>> Howdy, >>> >>> Just compiled the new kernel [3.10.7], was about to edit

Re: [gentoo-user] re: can't find /boot/grub/grub.conf after kernel upgrade [3.10.7]

2013-09-07 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On 09/07/2013 09:35 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Alexander Kapshuk >> wrote: >>> On 09/07/2013 09:11 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 1:

Re: [gentoo-user] re: can't find /boot/grub/grub.conf after kernel upgrade [3.10.7]

2013-09-07 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On 09/07/2013 10:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Alexander Kapshuk >> wrote: >>> On 09/07/2013 09:35 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 1:

Re: [gentoo-user] re: can't find /boot/grub/grub.conf after kernel upgrade [3.10.7]

2013-09-07 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On 09/07/2013 10:35 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Alexander Kapshuk >> wrote: >>> On 09/07/2013 10:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 1:

Re: [gentoo-user] why does revdep-rebuild object to mounting /var on /mnt/var ?

2013-09-09 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
revdep-rebuild. > Should I also mount directly onto /tmp and /opt? I don't think so, although /tmp is preferred to be a tmpfs now, I believe (in both systemd and OpenRC, if I'm not mistaken). Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] spoof mac address

2013-09-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
same MAC as on my router. emerge -v net-analyzer/macchanger macchanger --mac=00:11:22:33:44:55 device Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and lvm

2013-09-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sep 12, 2013 8:04 AM, "Stefan G. Weichinger" wrote: > > Am 12.09.2013 14:43, schrieb Mick: > > >> I don't have that binary. And some page on my way said the > >> contrary: set it to empty and let udev (?) do that. > > > > Ha! Neither do I! > > > > # ls -la /sbin/hotplug ls: cannot access /sbi

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and lvm

2013-09-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
t creates a high system load, or on smaller systems it is known to create out-of-memory situations during bootup. To disable user space helper program execution at early boot time specify an empty string here. This setting can be altered via /proc/sys/kern

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and lvm

2013-09-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 12.09.2013 18:22, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > >> Really, whomever is recommending to set CONFIG_UEVENT_HELPER_PATH is >> probably wrong. I can't find *one* place where it is recommended, and >> seve

Re: [gentoo-user] look for a file type + sort

2013-09-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
; If there are no spaces in the filenames/directories, you can drop the quotes from $(). Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] look for a file type + sort

2013-09-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Joseph wrote: >> I want to list recursively certain type of files eg. *.pdf but I want to >> display: date, path and newest file first. >> >> What is the easiest way of

Re: [gentoo-user] look for a file type + sort

2013-09-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Joseph wrote: > On 09/13/13 00:04, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés >> wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Joseph wrote: >>>> >>>>

LVM2+mdraid+systemd (was Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and lvm)

2013-09-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 12.09.2013 20:23, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > >> Stefan, what initramfs are you using? > > dracut, run via your kerninst-script. > >> Could you please explain how is exactly your layout? From drives t

Re: LVM2+mdraid+systemd (was Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and lvm)

2013-09-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
expected). > > OK. I send this message now and test another few reboots. Forgot to mention it: I also enabled mdadm.service. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

[gentoo-user] LVM2+mdraid5+LUKS+systemd (was Re: LVM2+mdraid+systemd)

2013-09-21 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
onfiguration with systemd. Regards -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

[gentoo-user] Re: LVM2+mdraid5+LUKS+systemd (was Re: LVM2+mdraid+systemd)

2013-09-21 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: [...] > The problem, that I believe Stefan and Frank hinted, is that the > encrypted swap did not activated properly, sometimes resulting in huge > boot times (in the order of 1 minute). But only if you specify the > swap

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2+mdraid5+LUKS+systemd (was Re: LVM2+mdraid+systemd)

2013-09-23 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sep 23, 2013 3:22 AM, "Stefan G. Weichinger" wrote: > > Am 23.09.2013 10:00, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > > > Getting that unit-name right is quite annoying ... fiddling with > > understanding that strange escaping etc ... :-( > > I have now: > > # cat /etc/systemd/system/dev-disk-by\\x2did-

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2+mdraid5+LUKS+systemd (was Re: LVM2+mdraid+systemd)

2013-09-23 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sep 23, 2013 6:01 AM, "Tanstaafl" wrote: > > Man... watching this discussion just makes me want to avoid systemd like the plague/all the more... Please don't top post. After I got LVM2, mdraid, and LUKS working with systemd, I just decided that, for me, neither LVM2, mdraid, nor LUKS are wort

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2+mdraid5+LUKS+systemd (was Re: LVM2+mdraid+systemd)

2013-09-24 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
systemd-analyze blame to see what is taking so long. systemd-delta to see what changes from upstream do you have. Regards. On Sep 24, 2013 4:47 PM, "Stefan G. Weichinger" wrote: > Am 23.09.2013 16:30, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > > > Did you read my next email? There is

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble downgrading systemd and virtual/udev

2013-09-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
l/udev. The correct version should be emerged. Nothing in the tree (AFAICS) depends on >=virtual/udev-206, so it shoud be fine. Regards -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble downgrading systemd and virtual/udev

2013-09-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:00 PM, wrote: > On Wed, Sep 25 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM, wrote: >>> I want to downgrade systemd from 207-r2 to 204 (highest stable). >>> >>> I currently have virtual/udev-206-r2 in

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble downgrading systemd and virtual/udev

2013-09-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 26/09/13 04:30, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM, wrote: >>> >>> I want to downgrade systemd from 207-r2 to 204 (highest stable). >>> >>> I currently

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sep 29, 2013 3:33 AM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote: > > On 29/09/2013 10:25, Mick wrote: > > On Sunday 29 Sep 2013 06:29:37 Walter Dnes wrote: > >> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 06:09:40PM -0500, Dale wrote > >> > >>> Most likely, I'll install Kubuntu to start. Then I may roam around > >>> and test other d

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
rk in bringing more awesomeness into Gentoo. They cannot put a warning if they don't know something will break *some* setups. And the whole point of this is that they don't have to consider every single possible combination of setups; the point is not to force you to have an initramfs. The point is to guarantee early /usr availability. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
use (and some don't like) systemd. No bogeyman here, no grand conspiracy. Read the logs. > But before I do that, I guess due diligence demands that I now go to the > FreeBSD support lists/forums (whatever they use) to confirm that FreeBSD > does NOT and never WILL require an initramfs

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 2:11 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 01:21:30PM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Tanstaafl >> wrote: >> > On 2013-09-28 4:17 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> >> >> On

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
And, on a personal note, I find a little quaint (and somehow naïve) to think about (for example) bluetooth as a "corner case", when most of us walk with a bluetooth enabled Linux computer on our pockets. I want Gentoo Linux on my cellphone. And it's probably not going to happen with OpenRC. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] SystemD + Gnome 3.8 I can log in as root but not as normal user

2013-10-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ot; > > Any help? Could you please boot up your machine, let GDM start, and then from a console do "systemctl --all --full", and post here its output? Also, can you try to do: USE="systemd -consolekit policykit" emerge -uDNvp world Does any package wants to be reemer

Re: [gentoo-user] kerninst (was Optional /usr merge in Gentoo)

2013-10-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 01.09.2013 19:30, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> I am following vanilla-sources in all my machines, which is what >> people like Greg Kroah-Hartman actually recommends [1][2]. Since they >> are now never stabi

Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
tself but only the modules ... > which lead to strange mismatches ... That should explain everything. As I said before, kerninst was not written to test configurations; is for when you have nailed the configuration and want to automatize the kernel update. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] SystemD + Gnome 3.8 I can log in as root but not as normal user

2013-10-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
> So I removed my user and then created a new one and it worked. > > Yeah this is fine and great that worked, but I would like to know: Why? Please don't top-post. When this kind of thing happens, remove $HOME/.config. In theory, that should get you a clean slate. Regards. --

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus failures

2013-10-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
: gdbus introspect --system --dest org.freedesktop.NetworkManager --object-path /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager wicd should use something similar. Use /etc/dbus-1/system.d/*wicd* as guide. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-03-31 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mar 31, 2015 7:55 PM, "Daniel Frey" wrote: > > On 03/17/2015 10:20 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > The cheat sheets are useful for reference, but I'd strongly encourage > > anybody using systemd to get a decent understanding of the > > fundamentals. > > Oh, certainly - but going in completely blind

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:55 AM, Marc Joliet wrote: > > Am Tue, 31 Mar 2015 20:05:50 -0600 > schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés : > > [...] > > With systemd you don't need this, since it can track the real state of its > > services thanks to cgroups. And kill

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
a convenience when switching from one > syntax to the other. The order of the switch doesn't matter, the notes > would be just as useful for someone switching from systemd to openrc. Don't feed the troll Neil. Almost nobody does. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > # If you have cgroups turned on in your kernel, this switch controls > > # whether or not a group for each controller is mounted under

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

2015-04-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
the 3.19.1 still does not get displayed at boot time! > > > > ;-) > > just as additional info: > > same behavior with 4.0-rc6 ... > > moving > > e55a6b6a09bd2b1c50216272545a8d1f-4.0-rc6.conf > > to stefan4.conf > > makes it appear at boot time Stefa

Re: [gentoo-user] How do kernel modules load automatically during boot?

2015-04-22 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
e, the modules are not loaded because they are not available. I have no idea if OpenRC tries to load modules. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Tips for fresh install with GRUB2+RAID1+LVM2

2015-05-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
prefer inside, and I imagine you > > could tell it to install the other on the side). A while ago I needed > > to run some btrfs tools that aren't in dracut by default and it was > > trivial to tell dracut to include them, and I forced a shell on next > > boot which gave me the latest tools and kernel without having to build > > a rescue CD with them, and a bash shell to run them from. > > > > It certainly isn't necessary to use an initramfs to use Gentoo, and I > > used to be among the more minimalist crowd that avoided them. > > However, once I took the time to examine dracut it went from being a > > blob that looked unnecessary to a tool that is often useful. > > Last time I tried to use dracut with openrc, it failed, I can't remember > exactly what happened, I think udev did hang, but its been a while since > this happened. Dracut uses systemd internally, so maybe this is part of > the problem. Dracut only uses systemd optionally and (AFAIR) not by default. If you don't specify it, dracut will use its own scripts as init. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ncil decided to stop supporting such a configuration. Regards. [1] https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2013-09-27-initramfs-required.html -- Canek Peláez Valdés Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 27/05/2015 14:31, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Peter Humphrey > <mailto:pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk>> wrote: > >> > >> Hello list, > > > > Hi. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] problems debugging a systemd problem

2015-05-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
a working kernel+dracut+[grub|gummitboot] configuration, it should also work with them. Regards. [1] https://github.com/canek-pelaez/kerninst -- Canek Peláez Valdés Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] problems debugging a systemd problem

2015-05-28 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
to do it in my first answer. Also, as Rich said, if you wait it's possible that systemd (and/or dracut) will drop you into a rescue shell anyway. Unfortunately, thanks to very slow hardware in the wild, the timeout has been increased to three minutes, and I believe those are *per har

Re: [gentoo-user] problems debugging a systemd problem

2015-05-28 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > > Actually, it does work (see attached screenshot). I set my root= kernel > > command line parameter wrong on purpose, and systemd (inside dracut)

Re: [gentoo-user] problems debugging a systemd problem

2015-05-28 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
drop you to a shell, but it will take some time while all the timeouts expire. This could be *several* minutes depending on hardware. The dracut mailing list is in [1]. Regards. [1] http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#initramfs -- Canek Peláez Valdés Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] problems debugging a systemd problem

2015-05-28 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 4:55 PM, wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: [...] > > As I said, I did the following tests: > > > > 1. Adding "emergency" to the kernel command line, with a valid root=. > > 2. Adding "rescue" to the kernel command line, w

Re: [gentoo-user] problems debugging a systemd problem

2015-05-28 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > > As I said, I did the following tests: > > > > 1. Adding "emergency" to the kernel command line, with a valid root=. > > 2. Ad

Re: [gentoo-user] bash completions missing

2015-06-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
; I am unsure what to do at this point as it seems that all the > appropriate packages and USE flags are installed/have not changed. Did you read the news item about them in november[1]? Regards. [1] https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2014-11-25-bash-completion-2_1-r90.html -- C

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot using UEFI

2015-06-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
to have it on my system. But I've also tried grub2, and got the following error: > > "grub2-install: error: cannot find EFI directory." > > What should I do? Have you tried gummiboot? AFAIR, it's a simple matter of doing: gummiboot --path=/boot install /boot should be yout EFI System Partition (ESP). Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: webkit-gtk-2.4.8 fails to compile

2015-06-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
at works occasionally: (Don't ask me why. I try it only out > of desperation when I don't know what else to try) > > #quickpkg =webkit-gtk-2.4.7-r200 > > #quickpkg =webkit-gtk-2.4.7 > > #emerge -C =webkit-gtk-2.4.7-r200 =webkit-gtk-2.4.7 > > Removing webkit will

Re: [gentoo-user] distcc apparently doesn't work

2015-06-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ironment flags for portage and/or your gcc. Obviously each client can also be a server, but from your email I understand you don't want this (I also don't let my laptop to participate; my desktop is several times faster). Finally, using journalctl -f -u distccd.service you can check if i

Re: [gentoo-user] Don't disable 'introspection'

2015-07-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
In general, I would recommend not to set USE="-*" (an opinion shared by basically all Gentoo devs and most rational people), and let the default use flags to do their magic. But everyone is free to break their systems as they please. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

2015-07-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
he systemd/udev conflicts) 5. emerge --depclean 6. Switch to the GNOME/systemd profile 7. Emerge gnome-base/gnome In my experience, if you switch directly to the GNOME/systemd profile, you get many conflicts. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

2015-07-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:02 PM, wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 18 2015, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 8:00 PM, wrote: > >> > >> I am installing gentoo on a new laptop. I am a gnome, hence systemd, > >> user. I also use lvm (I have

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