On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:55 PM, gevisz <gev...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2013/9/6 gevisz <gev...@gmail.com> >> >> >> 2013/9/5 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> >>> >>> On 05/09/2013 14:51, gevisz wrote: >>> > Usually, when I open a new window frame in Gnome 2, I have a Close, >>> > Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons on its upper-right corner. >>> > >>> > Sometimes, however, especially when I open a supplementary window frame >>> > from a running program, its upper (text) bar contains only the Close >>> > button with no possibility to maximize the window frame to the whole >>> > screen, and it is extremely inconvenient. >>> > >>> > I do remember that I had a similar problem in Gnome 2 under Ubuntu but >>> > somehow managed to get to the configuration where almost all my windows >>> > had Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons. The only exception was the >>> > Firefox sub-window to save a bookmark. :^( >>> > >>> > Just now, I have tries FXCE and found out that it opens all the >>> > sub-windows with the Maximize/Restore, Close and Minimize buttons "out >>> > of the box" and without recompilation of all the programs that do not >>> > do >>> > the same in Gnome (except for the Firefox bookmark sub-window, of >>> > course). >>> > >>> > However, I am reluctant to migrate to FXCE right now because at the >>> > moment I cannot achieve the same look-and-feel as in my Gnome >>> > (especially, I miss the the all-in-one clock-calendar-weather applet >>> > with the world map showing the daytime at different locations). >>> > >>> > Could anybody advise me how to get the Close, Maximize/Restore and >>> > Minimize buttons in all window frames in Gnome 2. >>> >>> >>> I think the true answer is >>> >>> "You can't. The Gnome devs know better than you what you want" >>> >>> I'm happy to be proved wrong though. >>> >>> If it bothers you, just migrate to XFCE and deal with the pain. It will >>> last only a short time. >>> >>> Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com >>> >> >> Currently, Gnome works better than Xfce for me, because so far >> >> 1) I found no way to switch keyboard layout from English to any other >> language (while Gnome and DWM do this after tackling with evdev >> configs), >> >> 2) Gnome allows more combinations for hot key bindings, for example, >> I can not assign <Win>+<Shift>+<any letter> to any program launcher >> in Fxce, while it does work in Gnome, >> >> 3) installing Orange in FXCE involves unmasking some dependent >> packages, but I like to stick to the stable thread. >> >> All in all, I do understand why Linus said that Xfce is a step back >> compared to Gnome 2 >> (but I still have not got why Xfce is a big step forward compared with >> Gnome 3 :^), as >> have not tried it so far). >> >> P.S. I will probably post a separate question, but if somebody can >> explain how to setup language keyboad layout switch in Fxce, >> you are welcome. :^) >> >> I set up toggling the keyboard layout to <rWin> key in >> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf as follows: >> >> Option "XkbOptions" >> "grp:rwin_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" >> >> It works for Gnome and DWM but not for Xfce. :^( >> >> Moreover, I need the keyboard layout indicator somewhere on the >> Xfce panel, >> but could not find any. >> > > A short update: after installing xfce4-xkb-plugin, which was not included in > the xfce4-meta package > (and I did not noticed it earlier), I finally got a keyboard layout > indicator. At first, it did not work, that is, > I could not switch a keyboard layout in no way. However, later, after > changing some of the plugin's > settings, it suddenly started to switch the keyboard layout. Interestingly, > the applet continued to switch > the keyboard layout even after I have changed all its settings to the > original ones. Magically, the <rWin> > key also started to switch the keyboard layout. > > So, my first and most important objection against Xfce4 is no more valid. > The third one is not > so important. Only the second is a bit annoying but one can live with it. > :^) > > Now, my Xfce4 looks almost like my Gnome2. Its weather applet is even more > informative. :^)
If you want GNOME 2, you should try MATE. GNOME 2 is unsupported; It's been years since somebody actually worked on it. Bugs, bitrot and security vulnerabilities are probably (if not surely) present in the code base. MATE supposedly tries to keep GNOME 2 alive (although its homepage is down). Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
