Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > On Saturday, September 17, 2011 08:45:15 AM Joost Roeleveld wrote: >> On Friday, September 16, 2011 10:53:47 AM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> > I think systemd gives you that in servers. With OpenRC and Apache with >

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés > wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:45 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > [[snippage]] >>> I still think Gnome (or any other desktop environment) should not care abo

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:45 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: >> On Friday, September 16, 2011 10:53:47 AM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: >>> > On Thur

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Michael Mol wrote: >>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés >>> I would like for >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 5:03 PM, pk wrote: > On 2011-09-17 20:36, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> They are standard in the sense that they are a low level communication >> standard API. An IPC is *way* more than that;  dbus is an IPC, because > > https://secure.wikimed

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
th (or appears to come with) a Linux-centric (sometimes > even a Linux-only) view. I think you got it wrong. dbus runs in every single Unix, I believe: it certainly runs on *BSD, Solaris, and Mac OS X. On top of that, dbus works (albeit with some differences) on Windows. As I said, dbus works on top of Unix sockets, and that works in every OS in the planet, I believe. It is one of the pieces of code most portable ever. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
me nothing but trouble. >> I've avoided that crap ever since. I do agree that the idea _behind_ >> dbus seems sensible but I'm not so sure about the implementation. >> >> Best regards >> >> Peter K > > years ago? is gnome even using dbus for years?

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ed Linux for a long time), the whole stack looks full of awsomeness, and stuff just works most of the time. So yeah, we use more CPU cycles, more memory and more hard drive. From my POV, we get more than that in new and improved functionality. > Best regards Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] What is with the gnome overlay?

2011-09-21 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
    * I suppose it's a layman problem, cloning the repository by hand seems to work: git clone git://git.overlays.gentoo.org/proj/gnome.git Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Unity on Gentoo?

2011-09-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
nteresting ideas. But I really not care about any of them if they will be controlled by only one company for only one distribution. And besides, it's not even the distribution I use. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Unity on Gentoo?

2011-09-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Stroller wrote: > > On 25 September 2011, at 17:05, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> … >> But with Unity the problem is much more than being pushed before time: >> Unity is a project sponsored by Canonical, and if you want to >> cont

Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT but interesting nonetheless...

2011-09-26 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
f you break the user > experience, you may feel that you have ‘fixed’ something in the code, > but if you fixed it by breaking the user, you just violated that > second point; you thought the code was more important than the user. > Which is not true.” > > --end-section-- >

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

2011-09-28 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
sic player are you using? Did you set or modify ~/.asoundrc? What Desktop do you use? Is the pulseaudio daemon running? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

2011-09-28 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: > Am 28.09.2011 23:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: >>> Hi! >>> I have configured pulseaudio according >>> >>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wik

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

2011-09-28 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: > Am 29.09.2011 00:03, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: >>> Am 28.09.2011 23:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Tamer

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

2011-09-28 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: >> Am 29.09.2011 00:03, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: >>>> Am 28.09.2011 23:28, schrieb Can

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

2011-09-28 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
e to do it with gnome-sound-settings, in the hardware tab (if I remember correctly). Good luck. El 28/09/2011 20:27, "Tamer Higazi" escribió: > Am 29.09.2011 01:27, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: >>> Am 29.09.2

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

2011-09-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: > Am 29.09.2011 01:27, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: >>> Am 29.09.2011 00:03, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Tamer

Re: [gentoo-user] How to read package changelogs?

2011-10-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
build files I guess it doesn't mess with changelogs. I hope I'm wrong. > > Claudio Roberto França Pereira (Spidey) > @spideybr > Engenharia de Computação - UFES 2006/1 emerge --changelog -p blah? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] gv - default printer

2011-10-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
I *think* gv just calls lpr, so the question then is which is your default printer. Regards. El 02/10/2011 15:07, "Joseph" escribió: > Does anybody know how to setup default printer for "gv" > Is it possible? > > -- > Joseph >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
therefore can be human readable. Also, if you use a desktop environment, they look nice in file managers. Good luck. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
f your use case exactly. You can set labels to ext[234] partitions with e2label, and for NTFS partitions you can use ntfslabel, and to swap partitions with mkswap. I suppose every filesystem in the world has a similar tool to set its label. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Cienc

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Grant Edwards >>> After a bit more googling, it looks like this is what disk labels are >>> for.  Never used them bef

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
, rather than switch later. You can use whatever you want whenever you want. They are orthogonal. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the most error resistant filesystem?

2011-10-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ess to /etc Set / to read-only and put /var in another partition. When you need to modify /etc, you remount / rw, modify, and then remount rw. A a gateway/firewall should not need config changes very often. With a ro filesystem, it doesn't really matter what filesystem do you use. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
o long, I'll also mess with decorations, but for > now, I'd like to keep my setup simple, no initrd. Yeah, labels are a feature of mount, an initramfs (really, totally different from an initrd) has nothing to do with it. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenierí

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
labels right now). LILO I don't know, I haven't used it in years. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
;>> now, I'd like to keep my setup simple, no initrd. >> >> AND what bootloaders can use LABEL/UUID? Can grub's device.map use them? > > I think you need to use grub2 for that. You are right: for grub-legacy you need to use the old hd(x,y) thingy. Regards. -- Ca

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
o > grub2. That's a good idea anyway, given that grub is in life support by its maintainers. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Florian Philipp wrote: > Am 04.10.2011 07:09, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Adam Carter wrote: >>>> By the way, is it possible to use LABELs without and initrd? I'll start >>>> using an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
s have suggested to use a /firstboot partition with a simple filesystem, and populated with a kernel image and an initramfs. That will mean that to boot Linux, we would use Linux. You can read an article about it here: http://lwn.net/Articles/458789/ It was only a proposal: I don't know what will be the standard in the future. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
abels. mkfs.vfat -n sets the label name at creation time: there must be a way to change it later. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
at's true, but I heard it from several people who should > have known.] I actually think is a good idea. I also think is not for everybody. As I said, if the root=UUID kernel command line works, then nobody has nothing to worry about anything: we would be able to use whatever boot loader we want to, even LILO (if it still works). Me, I want my laptop/desktop computers to have the best resolution available from moment zero, even before loading the kernel, and not a single flicker in my screen until my GNOME 3 is fully loaded. So I'm gonna play with grub2 (or /firstboot, if it materializes) until it's able to do that. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 08:08:16 -0700 > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> > At first glace, grub2 looks like a minature Unix installation whose >> > purpose is to boot a bigger Unix installation.  It's got it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
s: what if you don't have one? ??I use grub-legacy to boot >>> stuff other than Unix. >> >> When I said "it connects", I mean "calls". The same way it calls >> whatever thingy Window uses. > > Right.  And what about non-windows, non-Unix syste

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
in the kernel. The bootloader calls an operating system. The init system (if at all) that the OS uses doesn't matter: so if you have an operating system, any bootloader should be able to boot it (bearing things like being able to understand the filesystem etc.) Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
't > understand is the statement that grub2 is somehow aware of the booted > OS's init system. Oh. The configuration file of GRUB2 is autogenerated, and this means that the init=systemd has to be passed to the kernel line. In that sense, GRUB2 is "aware" of it. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > On Tuesday, 4. October 2011 14:14:24 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Grant Edwards > wrote: >> > On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
statement that grub2 is somehow aware of the booted >>> OS's init system. >> >> Oh. The configuration file of GRUB2 is autogenerated, and this means >> that the init=systemd has to be passed to the kernel line. >> >> In that sense, GRUB2 is "aware" of it. > > So to use grub2 you have to replace the normal "init" program that's > started by the kernle as PID#1 with something else? No. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
El 04/10/2011 17:09, "Dale" escribió: > > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: >> >>> Correct, the *kernel* executes it. >>> >>> Quoted from an earlier mail in this thread: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
that sense, GRUB2 is "aware" of it. >>> >>> So to use grub2 you have to replace the normal "init" program that's >>> started by the kernle as PID#1 with something else? >> >> No. > > I give up.  I've absolutely no i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
the whole reason I dragged the init systems into the discussion: you said that GRUB2 "got it's own initsystem and it's own set of init scripts." And it's simply not true. Maybe with the best of intentions, but that's disinformation. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
up in many threads, and it's also simply not true. Again, I don't think you did it on purpose with the intention of smear GRUB2 (that was my "with the best of intentions" part), but *it is* disinformation. To finish: GRUB2 does not need or have init scripts, it doesn't have

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement

2011-10-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
to require a non-zero amount of work, while zero is > the amount of work I would prefer to do. We have a say in México: "el que quiera azul celeste, que le cueste". It's basically the same as "there's no such thing as a free lunch": everything costs, maybe in money, maybe in time, maybe in work, and possibly on all of the above. But hey, at least you don't have to write your own boot loader. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: change and improvement

2011-10-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
not that great at the end of the day. That's one of the reasons the developer of systemd refuses to make it portable to other Unixes: it allows him to use all the great and specific features of Linux, and not to worry about other systems. If other systems want something similar to systemd, they

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

2011-10-07 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
27;t answer anyone. No prob. > Listening to music works fine, only the mic doesn't work :( Should work using pavucontrol: install it and check the "Input devices" tab (it's the fourth one in my laptop). Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] transferring contents of /etc/conf.d to the config files

2011-10-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
it belongs, only in /etc/foo (or whatever). I highly recommend it. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: transferring contents of /etc/conf.d to the config files

2011-10-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
d binary (needs to be absolute path). > >    #SSHD_BINARY="/usr/sbin/sshd" > > > if /etc/ssh/sshd_config is for configuration of sshd's options...for > what purpose is /etc/conf.d/sshd then ? It's a Gentoo-ism. It's for the (highly unlikely) case of you having your sshd_config file in a directory different from /etc/ssh, and to pass other arguments to the sshd daemon. It's completely redundant and innecessary, but it was the way different distros dealed with the shortcomings of SysV (OpenRC, the Gentoo init systems, works on top of SysV). > And what files gets overwritten when installing a new version of sshd? All of them :D Of course they are overwritten with ._cfg000* backups, but anyway is ridiculous. As you say, the only config sshd would need to look for should be in /etc/ssh. With systemd, there is no need for a /etc/conf.d (or /etc/sysconfig) dir. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-10-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
es (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-10-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 11.10.2011 23:04, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > > [...] > >> systemctl status ssd-thingies.service >> >> If everything went OK, it should have a line like this: >> >> Process: 1234 ExecS

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
.gnome*). Just backup your current config and remove it from $HOME, or try to start GNOME with a dummy new user. Also, in my case, having gnome-shell extensions installed caused me problems when upgrading. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-10-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 12.10.2011 00:23, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > >> Your script (I believe) does not have execution perms. All the >> commands for ExecStart (and ExecStop) need to be executable, so do a >> >> chmo

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: >>> For me, gnome 3.2 has been quite a regression over 3.0. >> >> Weird; for me it works so muc

Re: [gentoo-user] "/usr/bin/[" and coreutils

2011-10-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
so instead of using if test blah; then ... fi in bash, you can use if [ blah ]; then ... fi Just do /usr/bin/[ --help to get an idea. It has been there since I started using Linux, if I remember correctly, many years ago. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: >>> For me, gnome 3.2 has been quite a regression over 3.0. >> >> Weird; for me it works so muc

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> When you do layman --sync-all, sometimes the ebuilds are updated, but >> with the same version. Try to recompile every ebuild in the overlay >> that you have inst

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: >>> >>> I notice that I have the default "accessibility" use flag on. >>> I

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > On Wednesday, 12. October 2011 15:08:18 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> Anyhow, the logs from gdm failing should tell us something. I don't >> think is the video, like Michael suggested; supposedly gnome-shell

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> It's really weird; can I see /var/log/messages (or whatever logger >> file you have)? With Enable=true in the [debug] key on >> /etc/gdm/custom.conf, we sho

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
It runs without the flag, because in this case there's no dep to the shell. > > Does gnome-shell run before a user logs in? Yes: that's the reason it dies on you with the +gnome-shell use flag. >> Well, I do not use gnome :) But I am quite good in reading logs, >> coredumps a

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
) Homepage:http://xorg.freedesktop.org/ Description: X.Org driver for Intel cards Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >>> If it is related to the video card/driver that you use, try reemerging >>> cogl and clutter; it doesn

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ebuild R #] gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.2.0-r1 0 kB [1] Notice that gjs move to the tree, and so the latest version is outside de overlay. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: >>> I typed that command as root (no complaints) >>> and restarted gdm (twice). >>> Same

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

2011-10-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
> on a separate partition here.  It was complaining about something on /var > missing.  So, you may be late in reporting this.  I think it is already > needed for LVM if /usr or /var is on a separate partition. Again, get the facts right. If you use LVM you will need to use an initr

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

2011-10-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale wrote: >> Pandu Poluan wrote: >> >> On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale" wrote: >>> >>> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>>> >>>> On

Re: [gentoo-user] CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND, where ?

2011-10-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
-> Device Drivers -> USB support (USB_SUPPORT [=y]) -> Support for Host-side USB (USB [=y]) So there, is in Device Drivers -> USB support -> Support for Host-side USB. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

2011-10-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > Hi Canek, Hi Michael. > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 00:50:22 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés > wrote: >> > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale w

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

2011-10-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Dale wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale  wrote: >>> >>> Pandu Poluan wrote: >>> >>> On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale"  wrote: >>>> >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

2011-10-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 01:42:10 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> > /var/lib usually stores whole >> > databases. The difference is important and relevant." > >> My systems has directorie

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

2011-10-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > Hi Canek, > > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:02:13 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Dale wrote: >> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

2011-10-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:11:43 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer > wrote: >> > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 01:42:10 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

2011-10-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:21:18 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer > wrote: >> > Hi Canek, >> > >> > On Saturday, 15. October

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

2011-10-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Dale wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer >>  wrote: >>> >>> I would. But given the way udev people "solve" those issues, I don't. >>> I

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

2011-10-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:53 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:34:10 -0700, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> /var != /var/run >> /var != /var/lock >> >> /var/run is going in /run, but /var/run (by definition) only contains >> things like PID fi

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

2011-10-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:47:26 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer > wrote: >> > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:11:43 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >&

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

2011-10-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:34 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer > wrote: >> On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:47:26 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer >> w

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

2011-10-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:45 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 03:34:27 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer > wrote: >> > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:47:26 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >&

Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager-9999 won't compile

2011-10-19 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
Error 2 > make[2]: Leaving directory > `/media/500GB/gentoo_portage/tmp/portage/net-misc/networkmanager-/work/networkmanager-/src' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory > `/media/500GB/gentoo_portage/tmp/portage/net-misc/networkmanager-

Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager-9999 won't compile

2011-10-19 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Albert W. Hopkins wrote: > On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 13:11 -0700, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> Why don't you try networkmanager-0.9.1.90? It's working great for me >> in GNOME 3.2.0 >> >> Is there something in the live ebuil

Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager-9999 won't compile

2011-10-19 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: > On Thu 20 Oct 2011 05:30:24 AM IST, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Albert W. Hopkins >> wrote: >>> On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 13:11 -0700, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>>&

Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager-9999 won't compile

2011-10-19 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: > On 10/20/2011 06:57 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan >> wrote: >>> On Thu 20 Oct 2011 05:30:24 AM IST, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>>> On We

Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless network card not loaded on first boot after shutdown

2011-11-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ilities: [44] Power Management version 2 >        Kernel driver in use: ath9k >        Kernel modules: ath9k > > Greetings Does the wireless card needs a firmware? Do you use an initramfs? I ask since my iwlagn wireless car does, and if I boot using an initramfs, I need to include t

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome3 hotkey for searching in overview

2011-12-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
the way it works for you, you have some keyboard related configuration hiccup. Probably a legacy .Xmodmap or something similar. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] NetworkManager OK? kNetworkManager broken? Wireless setup very confusing...

2010-09-30 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ts and utilities, and back in the day I knew wpa_supplicant like the palm of my hand. Now not so much; it's not worth it. The GUI utilities (or at least those from GNOME, which is my preferred desktop) never really fail any more. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Instituto de Matemáticas Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL

2011-02-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
AL is gnome-power-manager (+hal dependency). Excepting for that one, if you remove hal from your use flags nothing will try to pull it. I'm not sure with Xfce or KDE. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Instituto de Matemáticas Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Random segfaults with gnome

2012-07-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
GNOME you mean, gnome-shell? Do the crashes occur randomly, or can you reproduce them? Same with PulseAudio. https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Debugging Have you tried don what this page instructs? I've been using GNOME 3 since May last year. No major problems so far. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Va

Re: [gentoo-user] Random segfaults with gnome

2012-07-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ndows on the single workspace was good, with 4 it crashed. :| >> >> No faults reported in dmesg though. >> >> Is my video card incompetent? >> > > I'm compelled to concolude that GNOME3 simply does not work on 4-5 year old > hardware. Yeah, on a Dual Core 2 Ghz, 3 GB RAM, and i945 128 MB. > > I'm back to my cozy place, KDE and alsaequal (instead of pulseaudio). I know "works for me" is basically useless, but my laptop is from 2008, a dual core 2.26 GHz with 4 GB of RAM, and an Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller, i915 video card. As I said, works perfectly. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Random segfaults with gnome

2012-07-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > On 07/14/2012 10:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> >> I know "works for me" is basically useless, but my laptop is from >> 2008, a dual core 2.26 GHz with 4 GB of RAM, and an Intel C

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3

2012-07-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
e official tree, as I said. I have been doing it since last year; usually I don't have any problem. A little more info would help; what does $HOME/.xsession-errors says? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3

2012-07-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Peter Alfredsen wrote: > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone use systemd on gentoo, with gnome3? >>> >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3

2012-07-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 20.07.2012 18:08, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > >> Not really "mix and match". I run systemd/udev/GNOME3 in ~amd64, >> that's all, and I don't unmask any hard masked package. It's been

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3

2012-07-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 20.07.2012 19:34, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > >> First get GNOME 3 + systemd to work; my overlay is experimental. > > ok, rolling back then ... > >> The only possible problem I see is >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3

2012-07-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 20.07.2012 19:34, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> systemctl --all --full --no-pager > > See attachment. > > That LVM-thing seems to be the solution. > > Added my lvm.service from back then when I first

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3

2012-07-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 20.07.2012 20:05, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > >>> I *assume* it has to do with LVM: >> >> Whoa. What partition you do have on LVM? If it's home, it is available >> after GMD has showed up?

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3

2012-07-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 20.07.2012 20:20, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >>> Am 20.07.2012 19:34, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >>>> systemctl --all --full --n

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3

2012-07-23 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
my logs neither in my laptop nor desktop in months. I think I could easily remove rsyslog and just have journald; but rsyslog is light enough, and having the logs there gives me a little peace of mind. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Linus breaks nvidia again

2012-07-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
uilds. So whenever a build log in a bug report mentions that # user patches were applied, the user should be asked to reproduce the # problem without these. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent ulimit for daemons

2012-08-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
at you want, you would only need to set: LimitNOFILE= in the [Service] section of your unit. If you are interested, all the relevant documentation is in systemd.exec(5). Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Udev rules for identical hard drives

2012-08-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
you specifically change them. Then, no matter how you put them in your machine, they will get mounted correctly, and then you don't need to fuzz with udev rules. Also, as a superficial bonus, they get mounted using the label and it looks nice in your file browser. The drives themselves I

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