On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés <can...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Pandu Poluan wrote: >> >> On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale" <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>>> >>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:15:24 -0500, Dale wrote: >>>> >>>>> A'right now. I'm going to start on hal and /usr being on / again. :-P >>>> >>>> Jeez, 43 years on and you're still going on about it... >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Dang, I was only a year old when hal came out? That just doubled my age. >>> It's closer to what I feel like tho. >>> >>> I'm still not happy with /usr being required tho. That is still standing >>> on a bad nerve. Don't worry tho, I got plenty of those bad nerves. :-P >>> >> >> Do you know that there's a plan to move /var/run to / also? ;-) >> >> Rgds, >> >> >> Now someone on here swears up and down that /var isn't going to be required >> on /. > > /var != /var/run > /var != /var/lock > > /var/run is going in /run, but /var/run (by definition) only contains > things like PID files and runtime sockets. In the same vein, /var/lock > also is going into /run/lock. I have acknowledged this from the very > beginning, and I have been pointing out that implying that because > those two (really small and bounded) directories of /var are going > into /run and /run/lock, it doesn't mean that the whole /var will go > into /. That is disinformation.
I finally found the link (got confused by gmane interface): http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/246892 Quoting myself (from more than one month ago): "Saying that proposing /run and /lock to be available at boot time means that in the future a separated /var partition could be not supported is, in my book, disinformation. /var/run and /var/lock (by definition) are almost empty (in space). /var/lib usually stores whole databases. The difference is important and relevant." Stop the fear mongering. If you jump into using an initramfs, then every single configuration on the planet (and on the future) will be supported, and it actually has its advantages to use said initramfs. If for irrational fear of using an initramfs, and your system is simple enough (where "simple" does not include LVM, NFS, and stuff like that), then you will be able to use Zac's proposal. In either case, /var will be always possible to have on a separated partition, and that is actually the recommended setup. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
