Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 6

2012-03-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ke the smart thing to do. > >  The VIDEO_CARDS variable might be "RADEON", but there are many > different levels of Radeon GPU cards, each requiring its own specific > binary blob. I meant coming up with a new use-expand variable, like RADEON_FIRMWARE or something like that. Regard

[gentoo-user] A systemd-only Gentoo system, version 2

2012-03-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
y using it. You have been warned. Regars -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] To mount or not to Mount proc, that is the question

2012-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
en't put /proc explicitly on my /etc/fstab since a long time ago, and everything seems to be working. However, I use systemd, which always mounts /proc with the default options, and only uses the entry in /etc/fstab (if present) to override the default options. In other words, systemd always mou

Re: [gentoo-user] Where does /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight come from?

2012-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
can remove any dir from it, and if you do, next boot it will show up again. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] To mount or not to Mount proc, that is the question

2012-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés > wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > >>> Looking at the Gentoo amd64 install guide here: >>> >>> http://www.gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
e to >= openrc-0.9.9. > > For more information on why this has been done, see the following URL: > http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken > > > > Happy Computer Users, systemd is on your horizon. > > Houston, we have a problem! You can a

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

2012-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: > > > > On March 14, 2012 at 1:22 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés" > wrote: > > >> Alan, the "vast majority" of Linux users right now are phone users. > >> At least, that's how I see

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: >  -- > > > > On March 17, 2012 at 12:19 AM "Canek Peláez Valdés" > wrote: > >> > http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken >> > >> > >> &

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ev-181 doesn't mean it becomes stable, so I am assuming > (for now) that since I run stable Gentoo this won't directly effect me > on Monday. Comments? That is correct. udev-181 is getting unmasked (removed from /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask), not stabilized (it will remain ~x

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

2012-03-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
it already works, and it's actually supported in Gentoo. But again, remember that I'm biased: I keep an overlay to run Gentoo systems with only systemd; no OpenRC, no baselayout, no SysV. You guys can try it if you want: http://xochitl.matem.unam.mx/~canek/gentoo-systemd-only/ Us

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

2012-03-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On Mar 18, 2012 8:48 AM, "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: >> >> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Nikos Chantziaras >> wrote: >> > On 17/03/12 13:53, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> >> >&g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

2012-03-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
sional programmer. In my not-so-limited experience, Lennart's code is clean, fast, and usually does what he says it will do. So, no, I don't "already" know that. You could argue about the overall design, or what goals his code has, but its quality you are the only one questioning it. So again, please, [citation needed]. You still haven't provided any reference to support your claim that Lennart's code (specifically systemd's code) is "poorly" done. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

2012-03-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: > > > > On March 17, 2012 at 9:45 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés" > wrote: > > >> But again, remember that I'm biased: I keep an overlay to run Gentoo >> systems with only systemd; no OpenRC, no ba

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

2012-03-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:17 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: > > > > On March 17, 2012 at 10:57 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés" > wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > On March

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

2012-03-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 2:02 AM, Graham Murray wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés writes: > >> * Really simple service unit files: The service unit files are really >> small, really simple, really easy to understand/modify. Compare the 9 >> lines of sshd.service: >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Initramfs or move /usr to /, oh my...

2012-03-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
691), but I'm sure it will be joined by more bugs in the near future. Devs are already working on the documentation. If you have a test spare machine, you can help them, and the whole Gentoo comunity. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

2012-03-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On Mar 18, 2012 3:52 PM, "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: >> >> If the config file doesn't exists, the service will not start, and you >> can check the reason why with >> >> systemctl status s

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
> >> Odd, it can work on all those yet fail on a relatively simple system. >> Makes one wonder.  Maybe it is to complicated?  Sort of starting to >> sound like udev isn't it?  lol >> >> I didn't say it would fail for the OP.  I just said it never worked &g

Re: [gentoo-user] Goodbye to gentoo?

2012-03-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
lready have in /usr/portage/distfiles (with a tiny bash script). You get the list of files you need, and only select those from the list of URLs, and then you have the files you need to download. You go back to the wi-fi cafe, download the files on a USB drive, and return home to put them on /usr/po

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-182 already

2012-03-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
if > I hadn't set it, but it sounds to me like a possible headache. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408379 Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] A systemd-only Gentoo system

2012-03-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 1:11 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:19:35PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> Hi; I've been running systemd in Gentoo since September from 2010, and >> it works great for me: all my machines run it at this point. Right &g

Re: [gentoo-user] LIRC with kernel 3.2.11

2012-03-22 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
works perfectly, *BUT* I don't have LIRC installed anymore. The remote works as a keyboard, and I didn't had to configure anything in XBMC. I don't see any Hauppauge driver in the Remote Controller adapters menu in the kernel; but maybe it's called differently. If that's the case

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gconfd-2 woes

2012-03-22 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
You El 22/03/2012 13:04, "Stefan G. Weichinger" escribió: > > Am 2012-03-22 19:52, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > > > > greets, > > > > today I wanted to be clever and ran "emerge -e gnome" to rebuild all my > > gnome-3 desktop. > > > > Unfortunately things didn't get better from this. > > > > I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
*any* of my packages compiled with "static-libs". Even more, my system right now runs everything with "-static-libs". I like to think (and, unless I missed something, that's in fact the truth) that my initramfs is actually more or less in sync with my running system, and I update it a lot, since it's trivial to do so with dracut. Outside of that, I agree with everything you say. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought

2012-03-28 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
over the > years but only because it is "the way we have always done it" http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/busybox/2010-December/074114.html Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-28 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
our initramfs? Also, the DRACUT_MODULES you have defined, and the contents of /etc/dracut.conf? Not being able to su sounds incredible weird. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-28 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Dale wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Dale wrote: >>> Alan Mackenzie wrote: >>> >>>> Incidentally, dracut says it won't work on a kernel without modules.  I >>>> do

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Dale wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> Can you try doing >> >> dracut -H /boot/initramfs- >> >> ?? >> >> The man page from dracut says that -H is for the "current host" >> instead of a "g

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd systemctl : Failed to get D-Bus connection

2012-03-30 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ux -static-libs) > > > > sys-apps/systemd-43 (acl pam tcpd -audit -cryptsetup -gtk -lzma -plymouth > -selinux) > > > > Thanks. > > > > [1] http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-04-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:41 AM, Dale wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > <<< SNIP >>> >> I'm a little confused: you log in KDE as a regular user, open a >> Konsole, type "su -", and what happens? >> >> What do you mean with "

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-04-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Dale wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:41 AM, Dale wrote: > << SNIP >> >>> Actually, I log into KDE as a user and when Konsole opens, it asks for >>> the root password.  I have the KDE session

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-04-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Dale wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > <<>> >> Well damn. Why you do not have devtmpfs? In all the machines I have >> access to (with or without initramfs, with either systemd or OpenRC), >> they have devtmps: >> >&

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-04-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ebuild ask for: CONFIG_CHECK="~BLK_DEV_INITRD ~DEVTMPFS ~MODULES" So please check that you have all those options (and don't have the ones with !), recompile your kernel, and reboot. Also, the divergence between /boot/kernel... and (hd0,0)/kernel... in your grub could be causing fun

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-04-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Dale wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Dale wrote: >>> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>>> zgrep DEVTMP /proc/config.gz >>> >>> >>> Ooops, it sort of snipped a bit much.  lol  

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-04-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On Apr 3, 2012 7:26 AM, "Dale" wrote: >> >> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Dale wrote: >> >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >>> zgrep DEVTMP /proc/

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-04-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
root there is not a single error. The initramfs did what it needed to do; the user space failed *after* initramfs switched root. Did you recreated the initramfs after the kernel recompilation? 1st rule of non-trivial initramfs: you need to recreate it everytime you change kernels. Which partition is th

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/plymouth could not work

2012-04-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
xr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 3 12:15 log lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root4 Apr 3 12:15 run -> /run So the problem it's not the existance (or not) of the run directory, I believe; it's the fact that it's mounted really early in the boot process as a tmpfs. So, did you use dracut to g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-04-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
process itself has a bug. 2. Your LVM configuration (while it works) it's not "canonically" detectable. Either case, please try re-creating your dracut initramfs without the -H option. I think that's the last problem (the other "problem" was that you got scared with the humongous debug output that dracut generates with dr.debug), and so we can then finally put this case to rest. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-04-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Dale wrote: > Dale wrote: >> William Kenworthy wrote: >>> On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 19:02 -0500, Dale wrote: >>>> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I do. I don't use LVM, so i didn

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/plymouth could not work

2012-04-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 11:01 PM, 张春江 wrote: > On 2012-04-04 01:19:39,"Canek Peláez Valdés"  wrote: >>I do, but I also use systemd. And GRUB2. > I use OpenRC0.9.8.4 and GNU GRUB0.97-r10, maybe that's the difference. > >>The /run directory should be created when 

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/plymouth could not work

2012-04-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
El 04/04/2012 00:03, "张春江" escribió: > > On 2012-04-04 12:06:26,"Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: > >Please add rd.debug to your grub kernel command line: > > > >title Gentoo Linux > >root (hd0,13) > >kernel /boot/kernel-3.2.1-gentoo-r2 root=/

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-04-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ll go away. For now, I think we can (finally) call this case closed; Dale, I would strongly recommend the workaround (editing the config file) instead of downgrading. Eventually you will need the new version anyhow. Glad to hear it works, albeit with some issues (unrelated to the initramfs). Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/plymouth could not work

2012-04-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 2:32 AM, 张春江 wrote: > On 2012-04-04 15:03:56,"Canek Peláez Valdés"  wrote: >> Sorry, I forgot; you also need to remove the "quiet" option from your kernel >> command line:> >> title Gentoo Linux >> root (hd0,13) >

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/plymouth could not work

2012-04-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 2:32 AM, 张春江 wrote: >> On 2012-04-04 15:03:56,"Canek Peláez Valdés"  wrote: >>> Sorry, I forgot; you also need to remove the "quiet" option from your >>> kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/plymouth could not work

2012-04-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:47 AM, 张春江 wrote: > On 2012-04-05 01:29:36,"Canek Peláez Valdés"  wrote: >>On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote: >>> >>> Something is wrong. There is no dracut messages in your dmesg output, >>> so eith

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/plymouth could not work

2012-04-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday, April 05, 2012 01:10:46 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:47 AM, 张春江 wrote: >> > On 2012-04-05 01:29:36,"Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: >> > >> >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/plymouth could not work

2012-04-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: >>> On Thursday, April 05, 2012 01:10:46 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>>> On Thu, Apr

Re: [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4

2012-04-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
d (optionally) convert all the files and directories to use extends: find -xdev -type f -print0 | xargs -0 chattr +e find -xdev -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chattr +e I did this on my laptop and desktop (including the root filesystem, booting into emergency mode with systemd), and everything worked pe

Re: [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4

2012-04-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:44 AM,   wrote: >>> Mick [12-04-08 18:40]: >>>> On Sunday 08 Apr 2012 16:56:23 David W Noon wrote: >>>> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4

2012-04-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Michael Mol wrote: >>> On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés >>> wrote: >>>> On Sun, Apr 8

Re: [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4

2012-04-09 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:06 AM, Stroller wrote: > > On 8 April 2012, at 19:21, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> … >> And (optionally) convert all the files and directories to use extends: >> >> find -xdev -type f -print0 | xargs -0 chattr +e >> find -xdev

Re: [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4

2012-04-09 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Stroller wrote: > > On 9 April 2012, at 11:23, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> … >>       The `c', 's',  and `u' attributes are not honored by the ext2 >> and ext3 filesystems as implemented in the current mainline Linux &

Re: [gentoo-user] User can mount/umount but not write to top the new drive

2012-04-09 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
to > the top of the new mount point without roots' involvement? Have you tried: # cat /etc/fstab | grep VideoLib LABEL=VideoLib          /mnt/VideoLib           ext3 auto,rw,users,uid=X,gid=Y 0 0 where X is mark's user id, and Y is users' group id? On the other hand, do you use

Re: [gentoo-user] User can mount/umount but not write to top the new drive

2012-04-09 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
nly listed for some > non-Linux filesystems, in order to make them compatible with Linux > ownerships and permissions. Oh crap, you are totally right. Sorry for the noise. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4

2012-04-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Stroller wrote: > > On 9 April 2012, at 13:04, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>>> … >>>> This means ext4 mandatory if you want to use it, and this (usually) >>>> means GRUB2, which is still considered beta. >>> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome without PulseAudio?

2012-04-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
o process? I can kill it, but it comes > back the next time I run mplayer. Is there a way to just disable it? If I recall correctly, the GNOME session manager will keep starting PA if the daemon dies. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome without PulseAudio?

2012-04-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés writes: > >> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: > >>> Recently, PulseAudio got installed. Seems like gnome-settings-daemon >>> version 3 no longer has the pulseaudio

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome without PulseAudio?

2012-04-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Alecks Gates wrote: > Alecks Gates, sent from Android on an HTC G2 > > > On Apr 11, 2012 12:04 AM, "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: >> >> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Alex Schuster >> wrote: >> > Canek Peláez Va

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome without PulseAudio?

2012-04-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Alecks Gates wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés > wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Alecks Gates wrote: >>> Alecks Gates, sent from Android on an HTC G2 >>> >>> >>> On Apr

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau

2012-04-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ivers have been consistently good, even for small 3D use (things like Blender). If you don't use (modern) games, I highly recommend the nouveau drivers. For a modern desktop they work great. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4

2012-04-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 01:21:05PM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> Note, however, that you *need* GRUB2 if your kernel lives in an ext4 >> partition that it's not longer compatible with ext3. Don

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-fs/ntfsprogs?

2012-04-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ere >> > sys-fs/ntfsprogs went. >> >> Thanks a lot! :) > > NTFS is a very complex filesystem, mostly undocumented. That ntfs-3g > works at all is a marvellous thing. > > I've always considered that formatting ntfs and doing complicated > things with it is be

Re: [gentoo-user] Another plan for /usr and udev-181

2012-04-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
her GRUB entry) for resizing LVM volumes, and a "slim" normal initramfs with its corresponding GRUB entry. Other way in which (IMHO) an initramfs is a better option that stuffing everything and the kitchen sink on /. My 0.02 ${CURRENCY}. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau

2012-04-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> Am 11.04.2012 23:16, schrieb ny6...@gmail.com: >> >>> I use the nouveau drivers because they update themselves when you update the >>&

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel, mounting /usr and dmraid

2012-04-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ULES_DRACUT, and try to generate an initramfs with dracut -H. dracut takes care of everything udev related. If it doesn't work, at least is not much effort. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] initramfs with lvm

2012-04-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
u need LVM >= 2.02.33 for dracut 018. Which version do you have? Also, do you have device-mapper enabled in /etc/make.conf? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] initramfs with lvm

2012-04-19 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
2012/4/19 林守磊 : > yes. i already have lvm2 installed. The problom is dracut depend device > mapper Which version of LVM2? Do you have device-mapper on USE in /etc/make.conf? Regards. > 在 2012-4-19 上午10:20,"Canek Peláez Valdés" 写道: > > >> >> On Wed, Apr 18

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs

2012-04-24 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
dracut hits stable. I would try dracut. Besides, as I said in another similar thread, an initramfs is one of the most secure things to prove: you add a new entry in grub-legacy/GRUB2, and try to boot. Doesn't work? Get back to your previous entry. Dracut depends on udev-164; everything else o

Re: [gentoo-user] Just a heads-up, I think =sys-libs/glibc-2.14.1-r3 is a stinker.

2012-04-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
fined references while linking some modules. My desktop and my laptop, however, compiled it without problems. I haven't had the time to check it, but it seems weird. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Just a heads-up, I think =sys-libs/glibc-2.14.1-r3 is a stinker.

2012-04-26 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
fam10 -mcx16 -msahf -mpopcnt > --param l1-cache-size=64 --param l1-cache-line-size=64 --param > l2-cache-size=512 -mtune=amdfam10" > CFLAGS="${SYS_CFLAGS_MARCH_NATIVE_EXP} -O2 -pipe -ggdb3" > CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}" > FEATURES="splitdebug" > MAKEOPTS="--jobs --load=5" > EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs --load-average=6 --verbose --tree > --with-bdeps=y --keep-going" OK, I got my atom server (which is amd64) to emerge glibc. The trick was to reboot it; it had several weeks uptime, I suppose something "stale" was in there. I rebooted it, emerged glibc, and everything is fine. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do I have both net-libs/webkit-gtk-1.8.1-r200 and net-libs/webkit-gtk-1.8.1-r300?

2012-05-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
/zenity-3.2.0 (webkit ? >=net-libs/webkit-gtk-1.4.0:3) > media-gfx/gimp-2.6.12 (webkit ? net-libs/webkit-gtk:2) > > I unmerged the *-r200 version but it got reinstalled so apparently > "something" needs it. Can anyone explain this? One uses gtk+-2, the other one gtk+-3. If y

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do I have both net-libs/webkit-gtk-1.8.1-r200 and net-libs/webkit-gtk-1.8.1-r300?

2012-05-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Hilco Wijbenga > wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I ran equery depends on both but it gives me identical results: >> >> centaur ~ # equery depends net-libs/webkit-gtk >

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do I have both net-libs/webkit-gtk-1.8.1-r200 and net-libs/webkit-gtk-1.8.1-r300?

2012-05-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > On 2 May 2012 15:20, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Hilco Wijbenga >>> wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB sticks now mounting on /run/media instead of /media ?

2012-05-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
esponding permissions). And anyway, if you are using a desktop system you don't care where the drive mounts, it just appears in your filemanager. If you are not using a desktop, then you should not have udisks2 installed, probably. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Inge

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB sticks now mounting on /run/media instead of /media ?

2012-05-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:00 PM, walt wrote: > On 05/03/2012 02:48 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:18 PM, walt wrote: >>> On 04/13/2012 05:19 PM, walt wrote: >>>> >>>>  A recent update >>>> (udev?) on my ~amd64

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome mimeinfo cache

2012-05-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
r/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache by > changing > the order of coresponding applications. > > Is there a more elegant (persistent) way? Edit $HOME/.local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache? It takes precedence over the system one. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: less file.html

2012-05-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Remy Blank wrote: > Stroller wrote: >> When I run `less file.html` the rendered webpage is shown, not the source. >> It is as if lynx had been invoked, rather than less. > > As a workaround, you can use: > >  less

Re: [gentoo-user] fsck separate /usr

2012-05-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
cept for using a live cd. With an initramfs. > Maybe I should just enlarge my root partition and move /usr there, at > least this would avoid all the trouble. But I'm used to many separate > partitions, and like it that way. You can have every directory under / on a different partit

Re: [gentoo-user] fsck separate /usr

2012-05-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:54 PM, wrote: > On Sat, 12 May 2012 19:54:24 -0500 > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Alex Schuster >> wrote: >> > Hi there! >> > >> > I'm using the new udev with a separate /usr p

Re: [gentoo-user] Runlevels, ordering initscripts and running them in background

2012-05-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
really supported, and it actually doesn't appear in the /etc/rc.conf of the one machine I have access to that still uses OpenRC. You may want to try systemd, it sounds like it does (out of the box) exactly what you want to. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suspend to {RAM,Disk]

2012-05-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
r). That I already knew. What I didn't knew was that dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.UPower" /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Hibernate works as well for suspend-to-disk. I hadn't hibernated my laptop in ages, it's good to know it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suspend to {RAM,Disk]

2012-05-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Freitag, 18. Mai 2012, 17:26:10 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann >> >> wrote: >> > Am Freitag, 18. Mai 2012, 22:42:59 schrieb Ignas Anikevicius:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suspend to {RAM,Disk]

2012-05-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: >> Am Freitag, 18. Mai 2012, 17:26:10 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >>> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann >>> >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] vserver: Mounting /run ... mount: permission denied [ !! ]

2012-05-21 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
Linux (x86_64) [VSERVER] >  * /proc is already mounted, skipping >  * Mounting /run ...   mount: permission denied       [ !! ] > ... > > What does it mean and how can I fix it? Does the directory /run exists? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería

Re: [gentoo-user] vserver: Mounting /run ... mount: permission denied [ !! ]

2012-05-21 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Jarry wrote: > On 21-May-12 21:43, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >>>  OpenRC 0.9.8.4 is starting up Gentoo Linux (x86_64) [VSERVER] >>>  * /proc is already mounted, skipping >>>  * Mounting /run ...   mount: permission denied    

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I control size of /run (tmpfs)?

2012-05-26 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
theory, it should work the same as with systemd. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I control size of /run (tmpfs)?

2012-05-26 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 1:20 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote: > [ snip ] >> Well, given that it's there, it cleans up after itself, and it avoids >> issues in the instance where /var isn't available early on, is t

Re: [gentoo-user] what's wrong with pulseaudio?

2012-05-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
eated a long time ago under weird circumstances (perhaps booting using a livecd), and they remained there. Just delete them. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] what's wrong with pulseaudio?

2012-05-30 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:35 AM, Easior wrote: >>>>>> "CPV" == Canek Peláez Valdés writes: > >    CPV> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Easior wrote: >    >>  Hi, all! >    >> >    >>  I found that there were some strange files o

Re: [gentoo-user] what's wrong with pulseaudio?

2012-05-31 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Easior wrote: >>>>>> "CPV" == Canek Peláez Valdés writes: > >    CPV> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:35 AM, Easior wrote: >    >>>>>>>  "CPV" == Canek Peláez Valdés writes: >    &g

Re: [gentoo-user] what's wrong with pulseaudio?

2012-06-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
ms safe to delete, then $ rm -rf $(find /etc -iname "*pulse*") 4. Emerge PA again: $ emerge -1v pulseaudio 5. Delete /.pulse and all its files. 6. Reboot. If after all this you are still getting the .pulse directory in /, then I have no idea how is getting in there. Regards.

Re: [gentoo-user] failure to login with xdm or gdm

2012-06-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
again for it to work. What does $ grep gdm /etc/passwd $ grep gdm /etc/group say? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Linus ranting about Gnome3

2012-06-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
tablets, and which play with Wii, Xbox Kinect or PS3 Move. That's the important market, and the future. BTW, using GNOME 3 for more than one year in my laptop and desktop, and I love it. I also want a tablet with it. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Linus ranting about Gnome3

2012-06-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
he death of the desktop PC, which is happening for 15 years now. Who said anything about it dying? > Are we dead yet? No, we are avolving. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Gnome3

2012-06-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 2:22 PM, walt wrote: > On 06/16/2012 12:01 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> BTW, using GNOME 3 for more than one year in my laptop and desktop, >> and I love it. I also want a tablet with it. > > Are you using any of the extensions Linus was discu

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
t's none of my business; I don't like it, therefore I don't use it. Entre los individuos, como entre las naciones, el respeto al derecho ajeno es la paz. Among individuals, as among nations, respect for the rights of others is peace. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Linus ranting about Gnome3

2012-06-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
bois. Sorry to break the news to you; I didn't know either, and it was also a shock to me. I'm trying to live now a regular life knowing that I'm just a fanboi, but I suppose it's hard, since we obviously don't know what the hell are we doing if we like such a gigantic mess

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Sonntag, 17. Juni 2012, 11:52:48 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: >> > So, while we're meta-discussing Linus' rant on Gnome3, here's an article

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to the gnome-system-monitor panel applet?

2012-06-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
Any suggestions? https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/120/system-monitor/ Pretty similar to the GNOME 2 version. Or https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/9/systemmonitor/ If you want it a little large and visible when pressing the windows key. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-24 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
implementing something twice (and probably in the wrong manner) as GRUB2 is doing. So, in short: I don't recommend switching to GRUB2. And I'm using it. Either wait for its documentation and tools to mature (i.e., when they finally hit the 2.0 version), or wait for something else to handle the

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