On Thu, 25 May 2006 12:00:28 +1000, Alan E. Davis wrote:
>Is it adviseable to arrange to automatically delete all temporary
> files when booting?
>If so, how to do this?
Edit /etc/conf.d/bootmisc and set WIPE_TMP="yes".
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Neil Bothwick
OK Scotty, NOW! Detonate and energize! I mean.
On Thu, 25 May 2006 00:17:27 -0400, Jeff wrote:
> Good Lord man... why would you want to compile OO from source?
>
> emerge openoffice-bin
Maybe because he is using an architecture for which the bin package is
not available? It takes around 16 hours to compile 2.0.2 on my laptop.
but it's better
On Thu, 25 May 2006 04:50:41 +0200 (CEST), Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
> I tried to build OpenOffice from source. After hours of copmiling it
> fails with:
>
>**
>ERROR: ERROR: Could not register all components!
>in function: crea
Thursday 25 May 2006 04:00 skrev Alan E. Davis:
> Is it adviseable to arrange to automatically delete all temporary
> files when booting?
> If so, how to do this?
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_clean_/tmp
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Hi,
I used to emerge packages with distcc on my laptop connected tow power
server, and it's great. But today distcc cause c-client to fail to
compile. I have to edit make.conf to disenable distcc feature. The worse
is that I'm emerge other packages simultaneously, while change of
make.conf ef
On Thu, 25 May 2006 15:39:12 +0800, Bobber Cheng wrote:
> I'm looking forward to a way to disenable distcc during emerging
> special package just like USE=sqllite emerge qt.
FEATURES="-distcc" emerge c-client
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Allan Gottlieb wrote:
You have to do experiments. It depends heavily on your application
mix.
Yes, that would be the best, but I'm wondering how, because e.g. "time
bzip2 -9 foobar" wouldn't be helpfull. So now I've switched to "-Os" and
soon I can test, if it's a real difference.
Thank yo
Note that emerge shouldn't be leaving stuff there unless you're using FEATURES (meant for debugging) like 'noclean', 'keeptemp' or 'keepwork' in your make.conf, or unless emerge crashes during the build.Caster
Hi folks,
a copule of days ago I did a gentoo 2006 fresh install.
During the installation, I modified CHOST and the link to /etc/profile,
so now I have:
lx-arnau ~ # !grep
grep CHOST /etc/make.conf
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
# ls -l /etc/make.profile
/etc/make.profile -> /usr/portage/profiles/defa
On 5/25/06, Ryan Tandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Make a backup. Now.
When you start seeing 'end_request: I/O error', it's always (in my
experience) been a sign of a disk getting ready to pack it in.
Double check physical connections, make sure no wires are loose; if
S.M.A.R.T. is available,
CapSel wrote:
Unfortunately smartmontools does not support SATA disks.
More exactly:
"Smartmontools should work correctly with SATA drives under both
Linux 2.4 and 2.6 kernels, if you use the standard IDE drivers
in drivers/ide. If you use the new libata drivers, it won't work
correctly becau
smartmontools does in fact support SATA disks starting with kernel 2.6.15.
Use the '-d ata' argument with SATA disks and it will work fine.
For example: # smartmontools -d ata -a /dev/sda
On Thursday, 25 May 2006 19:03, CapSel wrote:
> Unfortunately smartmontools does not support SATA disks. Is
On Thu, 25 May 2006 11:16:25 +0200, Arnau Bria wrote:
> # gcc-config -l
> [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5 *
> [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardened
> [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednopie
> [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednopiessp
> [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednossp
>
> For what I
On 5/25/06, Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Unfortunately smartmontools does not support SATA disks.
More exactly:
"Smartmontools should work correctly with SATA drives under both
Linux 2.4 and 2.6 kernels, if you use the standard IDE drivers
in drivers/ide. If you use the new libata drivers
These are supported by libata as of kernel 2.6.15
On Thursday, 25 May 2006 19:09, Jarry wrote:
> CapSel wrote:
> > Unfortunately smartmontools does not support SATA disks.
>
> More exactly:
>
> "Smartmontools should work correctly with SATA drives under both
> Linux 2.4 and 2.6 kernels, if you use
On 5/25/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
smartmontools does in fact support SATA disks starting with kernel 2.6.15.
Use the '-d ata' argument with SATA disks and it will work fine.
For example: # smartmontools -d ata -a /dev/sda
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 10:44:42 +0100
Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You run fix_libtool_files.sh with the old compiler version, the
> version that the ebuild is looking for but failing to find, which
> would appear to be 3.4.4 from your errors. you also need to add an
> option to fix
Hello!
I have a Canon usb scanner and I have problem using it with xsane.
The sane-find-scanner finds it:
found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9 [Canon], product=0x220e [CanoScan],
chip=LM9832/3) at libusb:003:004
But "scainmage -L" doesn't find it.
I don't know what to do next.
If I just simply star
On Thu, 25 May 2006 13:20:36 +0200, Stefán István wrote:
> I have a Canon usb scanner and I have problem using it with xsane.
> The sane-find-scanner finds it:
> found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9 [Canon], product=0x220e [CanoScan],
> chip=LM9832/3) at libusb:003:004
>
> But "scainmage -L" doesn't
csütörtök 25 május 2006 13.58 dátummal Neil Bothwick ezt írta:
> On Thu, 25 May 2006 13:20:36 +0200, Stefán István wrote:
>
> > I have a Canon usb scanner and I have problem using it with xsane.
> > The sane-find-scanner finds it:
> > found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9 [Canon], product=0x220e [CanoS
On Thu, 25 May 2006 12:20:16 +0200
Arnau Bria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It still says
> gcc-config error: Could not run/locate "i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc" ...
I correct myself... It solved both problems
Thanks!
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http://blog.emergetux.net
- Mama, mama en el colegio me llaman Fr
At Thu, 25 May 2006 10:40:26 + Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Allan Gottlieb wrote:
>> You have to do experiments. It depends heavily on your application
>> mix.
>
> Yes, that would be the best, but I'm wondering how, because e.g. "time
> bzip2 -9 foobar" wouldn't be helpfull. So now I've
Philip Webb wrote:
> My experience is that 'eclean' is not efficient at removing
> things, so I've gone back to removing out-of-date distfiles by
> hand.
Not even 'eclean-dist --destructive' is enough?
Benno
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well, I know the post should not shows up at list of gentoo, but the
problem is really quite annoying and I could not find any useful
solution through google.
every time I click on the "save link as" or "save image as", firefox
immediately stops responding, It is said that the problem might be
ca
Mike Huber wrote:
> Hi,
>I'm just trying to do some quick calculations using bc, but the
> version installed through portage truncates on
> multiplication/division. It didn't used to do this 2 years ago when I
> was taking number theory, and there are no USE flags available for
> sys-devel/bc
Allan Gottlieb wrote:
At Thu, 25 May 2006 10:40:26 + Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Allan Gottlieb wrote:
You have to do experiments. It depends heavily on your application
mix.
Yes, that would be the best, but I'm wondering how, because e.g. "time
bzip2 -9 foobar" wouldn't be helpfu
Emerging rxvt almost killed my box today - I watched gawk inside 'top'
eating 100% CPU and even 100% RAM/swap.
Anyone ever see this before?
DMA per-cpu:
cpu 0 hot: high 0, batch 1 used:0
cpu 0 cold: high 0, batch 1 used:0
cpu 1 hot: high 0, batch 1 used:0
cpu 1 cold: high 0, batch 1 used:0
DMA32
Somewhere along the line, ssh and ssh2 have gotten conflated, confused or just
downright broken. I have been running ssh daemon(s) for so long I don't even
remember how I set them up. They Just Ran (TM).
For a short while, ssh connections to here (home) from work have taken an
unusually long tim
At Thu, 25 May 2006 18:21:39 + Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Allan Gottlieb wrote:
>> At Thu, 25 May 2006 10:40:26 + Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>Allan Gottlieb wrote:
>>>
You have to do experiments. It depends heavily on your application
mix.
>>>
>>>Yes, that would b
Hi,
I'm connecting from a computer (remote computer) to a server (sshd, it is
running apache2 too, but it doesn't matter right now), and I can connect
through ssh to it, and run every command all right, but launching X.org.
If I try a "startx" command, it will start X.org in the local computer,
a
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 08:09:38PM +0200, Rafael Fern?ndez L?pez wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm connecting from a computer (remote computer) to a server (sshd, it is
> running apache2 too, but it doesn't matter right now), and I can connect
> through ssh to it, and run every command all right, but launching
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 08:09:38PM +0200, Rafael Fern?ndez L?pez wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm connecting from a computer (remote computer) to a server (sshd, it is
> running apache2 too, but it doesn't matter right now), and I can connect
> through ssh to it, and run every command all right, but launching
On Thursday 25 May 2006 15:09, Rafael Fernández López wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm connecting from a computer (remote computer) to a server (sshd, it is
> running apache2 too, but it doesn't matter right now), and I can connect
> through ssh to it, and run every command all right, but launching X.org.
>
>
I think I may have made a break through here!
I've always noticed that everything portage is very slow. It's like
it's having to un-tar and un-bzip everything all the time... lo and
behold, it is.
I've found (after much exploration) that there is a archive:
/portage-20060123.tar.bz2
This has
I've been using ssh and/or ssh2 daemons on this gentoo system for so long I've forgottenhow I had it set up. Now it's broken, and I have no idea how it got that way.
At first, it was just taking a long time to connect to this system (home) from work and ask
for a password. Now it is still slow,
IGNORE this posting. It was a fumble-fingers. Corrected and completed posting follows.On 5/25/06, Kevin O'Gorman <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Somewhere along the line, ssh and ssh2 have gotten conflated, confused or just
downright broken. I have been running ssh daemon(s) for so long I don't even
On May 25, 2006, at 1:07 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
Somewhere along the line, ssh and ssh2 have gotten conflated,
confused or just
downright broken. I have been running ssh daemon(s) for so long I
don't even
remember how I set them up. They Just Ran (TM).
For a short while, ssh connection
Hello, list.
I'm searching for a good cluster solution. What I need:
- Distributed filesystem, so that all machines can share the same
filesystem. Something like RAID-over-ethernet.
- Load balancing. Tasks should migrate between nodes.
- Redundancy, so that the death of a machine doesn't take th
* On May 25 11:45, Lord Sauron (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:
> I've found (after much exploration) that there is a archive:
> /portage-20060123.tar.bz2
This is just a remnant from when you installed Gentoo. You can delete
that file. Portage is already using uncompressed files under
/us
On 5/25/06, Lord Sauron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think I may have made a break through here!
I've always noticed that everything portage is very slow. It's like
it's having to un-tar and un-bzip everything all the time... lo and
behold, it is.
No, it is not.
I've found (after much exp
* On May 25 16:44, Daniel da Veiga (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:
> (correct me if I'm wrong, but you installed using the Gentoo Installer,
> didn't you? if you had a complete experience of Gentoo install, you
> would know that by now, that's why I strongly advice new users to AVOID
> THE
On Thu, 25 May 2006, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
> > I also get the bonehead award: there was a new kernel sitting on my
> > hard drive and just yesterday I found and installed it. It was
> > remarkably easy to install! I loaded the configuration file from my
> > old kernel and then just make && ma
On Thu, 25 May 2006, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> /etc/init.d/sshd
> and /etc/init.d/sshd2
>
> I can start and stop sshd, but not sshd2, which complains it's not
> configured. File
> timestamps indicate that sshd2 stuff has not changed since some time in
> 2004.
> Moreover, "equery belongs" cann
recently my sister descovered a strange and serious bug with
mozilla-firefox-1.0.8 in combination with xorg-x11-6.8.2-r7. After
visiting
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=36939781
xorg shuts down immediatly direct access to the box via the terminal is
impossi
On 5/25/06, Steven Susbauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2006, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
> > I also get the bonehead award: there was a new kernel sitting on my
> > hard drive and just yesterday I found and installed it. It was
> > remarkably easy to install! I loaded the configura
Hi List
I am pretending to make a building host for slow host, I got and AMD
64x2 machine that I want to use to build gentoo systems to a i686
desktop machine and a i686 gateway
I was reading today on gentto wiki this article :
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_A_Build_Host
is there a
On Thu, 25 May 2006 17:33:47 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
> > the new, working kernel... it rewrites symlinks to the new kernel.
> > BTW,
>
> Only if you specifically do a USE="symlink" emerge gentoo-sources
No, that controls the /usr/src/linux symlink to the sources.
The /boot/vmlinuz symlink
Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tried to build OpenOffice from source. After hours of copmiling it
> fails with:
>
> What did I so badly wrong here ?
>
> Kind regards,
> mcc
>
I have the same problem, looks to be same bug posted in:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126777
On 5/25/06, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2006 17:33:47 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
> > the new, working kernel... it rewrites symlinks to the new kernel.
> > BTW,
>
> Only if you specifically do a USE="symlink" emerge gentoo-sources
No, that controls the /usr/src/li
recently my sister descovered a strange and serious bug with
mozilla-firefox-1.0.8 in combination with xorg-x11-6.8.2-r7. After
visiting
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=36939781
xorg shuts down immediatly direct access to the box via the terminal is
imposs
On 5/25/06, Thomas Kirchner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
* On May 25 11:45, Lord Sauron (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:
> I've found (after much exploration) that there is a archive:
> /portage-20060123.tar.bz2
This is just a remnant from when you installed Gentoo. You can delete
that file.
Friday 26 May 2006 01:00 skrev Lord Sauron:
> If it's not, then I really need to ask why on earth portage takes so
> long to just index and search packages that took apt-get much less
> time to work with. I don't think it should be this slow. I'm not
> even talking about compile-times - I know an
Lord Sauron wrote:
>
> I've got one on my hard drive. You can have it if you want ; )
I have them in /usr/portage/*/*/metadata.xml but none anywhere else
though. There are none that end in .tar.bz2 though. Where is yours and
where is mine? O_O
Dale
:-)
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On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 16:00 -0700, Lord Sauron wrote:
> On 5/25/06, Thomas Kirchner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It takes about as long to start going as it does to open the archive
> > > /portage-20060123.tar.bz2 - conincidence? I think not!
> >
> > I think so ;)
>
> If it's not, then I rea
On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 18:20 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
> Anyway, the OP is using genkernel (wether it likes/knows it or not)...
This doesn't look like genkernel:
> I loaded the configuration file from my
> old kernel and then just make && make install
to use genkernel, you have to call genk
On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 01:50 +0400, Alexander Kirillov wrote:
> > recently my sister descovered a strange and serious bug with
> > mozilla-firefox-1.0.8 in combination with xorg-x11-6.8.2-r7. After
> > visiting
> > http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=36939781
>
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fei huang wrote:
> well, I know the post should not shows up at list of gentoo, but the
> problem is really quite annoying and I could not find any useful
> solution through google.
>
> every time I click on the "save link as" or "save image as", fire
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> fei huang wrote:
> > well, I know the post should not shows up at list of gentoo, but the
> > problem is really quite annoying and I could not find any useful
> > solution through google.
>
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Bruno Lustosa wrote:
> Hello, list.
>
> I'm searching for a good cluster solution. What I need:
>
> - Distributed filesystem, so that all machines can share the same
> filesystem. Something like RAID-over-ethernet.
> - Load balancing. Tasks should mi
This _does_ help. It's mysterious enough that I tested it, and it seems to
work except that it removes "." from any path. This is not quite what I want.
Glad it was almost a success ;) Interesting, thats not something I
noticed before, I have never wished "." in my PATH, I should point out
of
On 24/05/06, Harald Arnesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Mike Huber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
> I'm just trying to do some quick calculations using bc, but the version
> installed through portage truncates on multiplication/division. It didn't
> used to do this 2 years ago when I was
I have seen wierd problems with binary packages. Have you triedcompiling firefox from source yet?
- --Jeremy Olexa([EMAIL PROTECTED])yes, It took me more than half an hour to compile it from source last night, um;--(
Maybe you should also# emerge -av gentoolkit# revdep-rebuildHTH,
Matthia
sorry for my sin. I didn't know about eix.
On 5/25/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Friday 26 May 2006 01:00 skrev Lord Sauron:
> If it's not, then I really need to ask why on earth portage takes so
> long to just index and search packages that took apt-get much less
> time to
On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 10:04 +0800, fei huang wrote:
> I have seen wierd problems with binary packages. Have you
> tried
> compiling firefox from source yet?
>
> - --
> Jeremy Olexa
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>
> yes, It took me more than hal
On Friday 26 May 2006 04:12, Lord Sauron wrote:
> sorry for my sin. I didn't know about eix.
>
> On 5/25/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Friday 26 May 2006 01:00 skrev Lord Sauron:
> > > If it's not, then I really need to ask why on earth portage takes so
> > > long to just i
>
> > he copied the config from his old kernel, it
> > is not using the default options and thus *should* work just fine.
>
> Yeah, I missed that line. You're right. But he didn't installed the
> new kernel, and alsa-driver, ndiswrapper, nvidia drivers and a lot of
> other stuff claim a new compile
On 5/25/06, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 18:20 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
> Anyway, the OP is using genkernel (wether it likes/knows it or not)...
This doesn't look like genkernel:
It doesn't have to look, he used the Gentoo installer, and so, it IS GENKE
On 5/25/06, Steven Susbauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > he copied the config from his old kernel, it
> > is not using the default options and thus *should* work just fine.
>
> Yeah, I missed that line. You're right. But he didn't installed the
> new kernel, and alsa-driver, ndiswrapper, nvid
I had a trial license for vmware workstation. I decided to work just with
vmware player, so I did an emerge -C on workstation, and an emerge
of player.
The install was perfectly smooth, but it doesn't work. The symptoms
were pretty bizarre, so I did a careful by-hand deletion of the files that
t
Lord Sauron wrote:
On 5/25/06, Thomas Kirchner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
* On May 25 11:45, Lord Sauron (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:
> I've found (after much exploration) that there is a archive:
> /portage-20060123.tar.bz2
Much exploration? Forgive my amazement and please don't be *
On 5/25/06, Daniel da Veiga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
But he isn't because he used the installer and thus use genkernel,
hmm, its like the third time I'll say that, so, I'll stop and report
you all to read the complete thread.
It doesn't really matter how many times you say it, the OP did *not
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
So instead of emerge sync AND update-eix, you just run esync.
eix-sync
It's only three more keys... :P
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On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 23:50 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
> On 5/25/06, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 18:20 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
> >
> > > Anyway, the OP is using genkernel (wether it likes/knows it or not)...
> >
> > This doesn't look like genkernel:
>
On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 14:14 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> My /var/log/messages is filling up with the lines like
>
> May 24 12:01:50 orpheus rc-scripts: status: stopped
>
> They're coming in two's, about every two seconds. What on earth is
> causing this?
>
> It's only been happening from abou
On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 13:35 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> I made it a bit further: something is calling
> "/etc/init.d/samba status" - I found this out by
> editing /etc/init.d/runscript.sh and changing the output to print the
> service name, so instead of
>
> rc-scripts: status: stopped
> I
On 5/25/06, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 16:00 -0700, Lord Sauron wrote:
> On 5/25/06, Thomas Kirchner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It takes about as long to start going as it does to open the archive
> > > /portage-20060123.tar.bz2 - conincidence? I think
On 5/25/06, Daniel da Veiga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 5/25/06, Lord Sauron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've found (after much exploration) that there is a archive:
> /portage-20060123.tar.bz2
Simply a portage snapshot, maybe the one you used to install Gentoo in
the first place? Take a look
On 5/25/06, Thomas Kirchner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
* On May 25 16:44, Daniel da Veiga (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:
> (correct me if I'm wrong, but you installed using the Gentoo Installer,
> didn't you? if you had a complete experience of Gentoo install, you
> would know that by now,
On 5/26/06, Matthias Langer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 10:04 +0800, fei huang wrote:> I have seen wierd problems with binary packages. Have you> tried> compiling firefox from source yet?>> - --
> Jeremy Olexa> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
On Friday 26 May 2006 04:12, Lord Sauron wrote:
sorry for my sin. I didn't know about eix.
On 5/25/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Friday 26 May 2006 01:00 skrev Lord Sauron:
> > If it's not, then I really need to ask why on earth portage takes
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