On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 08:25:12PM -0400, Eli Schwartz wrote
> I think the two of you are talking past each other. What did Arsen mean
> by "the vague concept of IPv6"? I suspect he meant:
>
> You are trying to solve a concrete user issue with your browsing.
Correct.
> Your idea of how to sol
On 9/25/24 6:21 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
>> There is no reason to disable IPv6 support, as Eli said (especially if
>> yo do not know _what_ you're trying to disable, and are just trying to
>> blanket-disable a vague concept of IPv6).
>
> This is *NOT* about a "vague concept". This is about solvin
On 2024-09-24 21:42:23, Eli Schwartz wrote:
>
> Please do not disable the USE=ipv6, as that is *utterly* insane. It also
> does approximately nothing. In packages which support this USE flag,
> which is rare, it causes the code to use old, untested APIs which only
> support ipv4, rather than new,
On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 01:53:49PM +0200, Arsen Arsenović wrote
> I suspect your Firefox anecdote happened due to misconfiguration
> (I think network.http.fast-fallback-to-IPv4 dictates the use of this
> algorithm in Firefox).
I do not recall ever touching it in about:config. In my current
bro
On 9/25/24 7:26 AM, Eli Schwartz wrote:
On 9/25/24 6:00 AM, Walter Dnes wrote:
>My system is actually very stable. In the shitstorm that erupted on
> this list at "ipv6" enabling I did not see any mention of sysctl. In my
> /etc/default/grub file I have...
>
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
On 9/25/24 6:00 AM, Walter Dnes wrote:
> My system is actually very stable. In the shitstorm that erupted on
> this list at "ipv6" enabling I did not see any mention of sysctl. In my
> /etc/default/grub file I have...
>
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noexec=on net.ifnames=0 ipv6.disable=1"
>
>
Walter Dnes writes:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 09:42:23PM -0400, Eli Schwartz wrote
>
>> If you actually want to disable ipv6, instead of insanely rebuilding
>> binaries to use untested broken segfaulting code, use the sysctl
>> knob to tell the kernel "when asked to give some application a bit
>>
On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 09:42:23PM -0400, Eli Schwartz wrote
> If you actually want to disable ipv6, instead of insanely rebuilding
> binaries to use untested broken segfaulting code, use the sysctl
> knob to tell the kernel "when asked to give some application a bit
> of internet traffic, don't u
On 9/24/24 6:00 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 05:11:14PM -0400, Eli Schwartz wrote
>
>> Do you have that little faith in the Gentoo Developers, that you
>> think we'd make a USE flag change that made everyone's systems
>> suddenly break?
>>
>> :(
>
> I was around way back whe
On 24/9/24 19:46, Mitchell Dorrell wrote:
Do you specifically use the closed-source drivers, though?
Yes. In both the 'kernel-open' and regular flavours.
On 24/09/2024 19:32, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
So should computer words be defined by non-professionals or thoose
who knows ?
Well, before computers, I thought servers worked in restaurants ...
(And what the hell are thoose :-)
One effect of letting non-professionals define words is the case w
On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 05:11:14PM -0400, Eli Schwartz wrote
> Do you have that little faith in the Gentoo Developers, that you
> think we'd make a USE flag change that made everyone's systems
> suddenly break?
>
> :(
I was around way back when "ipv6" became the default. I was using
Firefox b
Wol:
> On 23/09/2024 23:53, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> > It's just the pc hoard that thinks a server is some machine handling
(that should be horde, not hoard even though it sounds funny...)
> > databases, mail, files, printers or what
>
> In other words, X uses the words the other way round than m
Alan,
On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 22:08:56 + you wrote:
> ...
> For example, emerge
> --depclean on my system wants to unmerge openrc. Not a deliberate move
> by the developers, just some accident. But it's the reason I don't do
> emerge --depclean, ever
On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 9:13 PM Matt Jolly wrote:
> On 24/9/24 10:52, Mitchell Dorrell wrote:
>
> > I run a four-monitor system using NVIDIA's closed-source drivers. Last
> > I heard, Wayland did not work with such a combination. Has that
> > changed?
>
> I run several 3-monitor NVIDIA setups on W
On 23/09/2024 23:53, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
It's just the pc hoard that thinks a server is some machine handling
databases, mail, files, printers or what
In other words, X uses the words the other way round than most people -
what I said.
Doesn't mean the majority are right! As far as I'm a
On 9/23/24 8:52 PM, Mitchell Dorrell wrote:
> I run a lean X system for desktop workflows, with USE="-wayland".
> Every unconditional dev-libs/wayland dependency I've encountered has
> used dlopen. These were proprietary binary applications like Zoom and
> Slack. On an X system, they work completel
On 24/9/24 10:52, Mitchell Dorrell wrote:
I run a four-monitor system using NVIDIA's closed-source drivers. Last
I heard, Wayland did not work with such a combination. Has that
changed?
I run several 3-monitor NVIDIA setups on Wayland with no issue.
One of my 4-monitor setups has one scree
On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 5:11 PM Eli Schwartz wrote:
> The resulting packages pull in support libraries that implement both
> technologies. This is (usually, absent dlopen tricks) a fundamental
> requirement of "ld.so", the runtime loader: if you compile support for
> it, you have to have it instal
On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 22:08 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>
> But the unused code still gets built in, doesn't it? That's a somewhat
> un-gentoo like situation.
>
It depends on the language, but in a compiled language, not usually.
Regardless: if you aren't a fan of widespread changes to global
On 9/23/24 6:08 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> Do you have that little faith in the Gentoo Developers, that you think
>> we'd make a USE flag change that made everyone's systems suddenly break?
>
> It happens, from time to time, by accident. For example, emerge
> --depclean on my system wants to un
Wol:
...
> X comes in two halves, the front end (or server, they use the words the
> other way round to normal),
...
No, server is a software concept, a program that waits and responds to
inbound calls, the X-server is just that. A client is a program/user
that pokes at the server and get respon
Hello, Eli.
On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 17:11:14 -0400, Eli Schwartz wrote:
> On 9/23/24 4:14 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> > Hello, Gentoo.
> > I got a nasty shock earlier on this evening when I was updating my
> > (still newish) system. Around (perhaps) 70 packages to be updated or
> > reloaded, sev
On 23/09/2024 21:14, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
What on Earth is going on? I never asked for wayland, and I haven't
received any news items about it in the last few weeks. I know little
about this X substitute, but one thing's vitually certain; that
installing it as emerge intended would lead to a l
Hello, Alan,
Alan Mackenzie writes:
> Hello, Gentoo.
>
> I got a nasty shock earlier on this evening when I was updating my
> (still newish) system. Around (perhaps) 70 packages to be updated or
> reloaded, several of them big packages. What's going on?
>
> There were lots of qt and kde packag
On 9/23/24 4:14 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> Hello, Gentoo.
>
> I got a nasty shock earlier on this evening when I was updating my
> (still newish) system. Around (perhaps) 70 packages to be updated or
> reloaded, several of them big packages. What's going on?
>
> There were lots of qt and kde p
Hello, Gentoo.
I got a nasty shock earlier on this evening when I was updating my
(still newish) system. Around (perhaps) 70 packages to be updated or
reloaded, several of them big packages. What's going on?
There were lots of qt and kde packages being sucked in. But what stood
out prominently
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