Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 11:06:03 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Tuesday 14 April 2009 10:48:09 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > > I don't like dolphin either, it reminds me too much of Nautilus. But > > > > konqueror is showing it's age, and a

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 14 April 2009 10:48:09 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > I don't like dolphin either, it reminds me too much of Nautilus. But > > > konqueror is showing it's age, and as a browser it's now almost > > > useless. It's JavaScript is horribly

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 10:48:09 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > I don't like dolphin either, it reminds me too much of Nautilus. But > > konqueror is showing it's age, and as a browser it's now almost useless. > > It's JavaScript is horribly broken and using flash is just too painful to > > conte

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 14 April 2009 08:56:51 Roy Wright wrote: > > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > On Tuesday 14 April 2009 02:19:47 Paul Hartman wrote: > > >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Paul Hartman > > >> > > >> wrote: > > >>> The only app I am really dis

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 08:56:51 Roy Wright wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Tuesday 14 April 2009 02:19:47 Paul Hartman wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Paul Hartman > >> > >> wrote: > >>> The only app I am really disappointed with is Amarok 2. > > Glad I'm not the only one who

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Philip Webb
090414 Roy Wright wrote: > the change over to dolphin is disappointing. > So far I've been able to mostly ignore it and use konqueror > with one major exception, fish and sftp no longer work in konqueror. > Only sftp works in dolphin. In the past (3.x), > I always found fish bulletproof, while sft

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-13 Thread Roy Wright
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 14 April 2009 02:19:47 Paul Hartman wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Paul Hartman >> >> wrote: >>> The only app I am really disappointed with is Amarok 2. Glad I'm not the only one who doesn't get Amarok 2... Personally the change over to dolphin is

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 02:19:47 Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Paul Hartman > > wrote: > > The only app I am really disappointed with is Amarok 2. I really liked > > Amarok 1 and they started over for Amarok 2 and I dislike just about > > everything they've done to it. T

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > The only app I am really disappointed with is Amarok 2. I really liked > Amarok 1 and they started over for Amarok 2 and I dislike just about > everything they've done to it. The tree-view collection list is > awful, the UI is bad (middle

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 13 April 2009 19:02:06 Philip Webb wrote: > I'm quite willing to try new things, but KDE 4.2.1 is definitely a beta. It's more than that. It's an experimental approach to a new way of thinking about desktops. KDE-4 is NOT a "New! Improved! KDE-3.5.x". It's so different that still cal

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 13 April 2009 19:14:25 Dale wrote: > Paul Hartman wrote: > > I would suggest totally getting rid of everything KDE3 related before > > trying to go KDE4... I also had lots of problems and conflicts with > > both installed. Once I got rid of all traces of KDE3 and started > > "fresh" with

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-13 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Philip Webb wrote: > >> I got KDE 4.2.1 installed with only a couple of bugs along the way. >> I'm not impressed: there's some eye-candy, but usability is reduced. >> There's a very limited choice of desktop backgrounds: >> I like the 'No

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Philip Webb wrote: > I also didn't mention that Kmahjongg 4.2.1 doesn't allow you > to edit the layout & its "traditional" tiles are ugly. Oh, I forgot about the games... Kolf is really really ugly now on KDE4... they changed the colors for no apparent reason.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-13 Thread Philip Webb
090413 Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Philip Webb wrote: >> I got KDE 4.2.1 installed with only a couple of bugs along the way. >> I'm not impressed: there's some eye-candy, but usability is reduced. > I would suggest totally getting rid of everything KDE3 related > before

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Philip Webb wrote: > I got KDE 4.2.1 installed with only a couple of bugs along the way. > I'm not impressed: there's some eye-candy, but usability is reduced. > There's a very limited choice of desktop backgrounds: > I like the 'No picture, pavement' choice in 3.

[gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-13 Thread Philip Webb
I got KDE 4.2.1 installed with only a couple of bugs along the way. I'm not impressed: there's some eye-candy, but usability is reduced. There's a very limited choice of desktop backgrounds: I like the 'No picture, pavement' choice in 3.5.10 with different colors, but there's nothing similar in 4.2