On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Philip Webb <purs...@ca.inter.net> wrote:
> I got KDE 4.2.1 installed with only a couple of bugs along the way.
> I'm not impressed: there's some eye-candy, but usability is reduced.
> There's a very limited choice of desktop backgrounds:
> I like the 'No picture, pavement' choice in 3.5.10 with different colors,
> but there's nothing similar in 4.2.1 .
> I did something unexpected & froze a new panel -- 1 CPU at 100 % --
> & managed to get back to "normal" only by deleting ~/.kde4/share .
> Dolphin is pathetic compared with Thunar, let alone Krusader
> (I've never tried Konqueror as a file manager).
> I can't try the new Gwenview, as some of the new files clash with the old
> & I'm certainly not unmerging the KDE 3 version.
>
> I've gone back to 3.5.10 more or less, but am stuck with 4.2.1's desktop:
> the background, R-click menu & 4.2.1 panel are still there & working
> (no, trying to change it with the 3.5.10 CC has no effect).
> Can anyone suggest what I have to delete to get all of 3.5.10 restored ?
>
> I have a lot of respect for KDE developers over the past few years,
> but they've badly underestimated the size of their task for KDE 4 .
>
> Perhaps I should try Xfce 4.6 with some KDE 4 apps ... (smile)

I would suggest totally getting rid of everything KDE3 related before
trying to go KDE4... I also had lots of problems and conflicts with
both installed. Once I got rid of all traces of KDE3 and started
"fresh" with KDE4, it has been working well. I really didn't care for
the whole look and feel at first, but it has grown on me. Me, I set it
to random background every 10 minutes. Honestly the background is
rarely ever seen on my screen so it's not a big deal to me. I like
maximized windows. :) For the same reason I don't use the desktop
widgets at all, and I find dockable taskbar stuff from KDE3 to be more
useful... because a bunch of gigantic widgets on my desktop which are
always covered by windows seems totally stupid and useless to me.

Overall I think KDE3 was much faster in performance (probably lack of
3D effects) and more productive to use... I'm sticking with KDE4 for
now simply because it's the "new" thing... but there's no compelling
reason for me to use it instead of KDE3.

I don't use GUI filemanager so I have no opinion on dolphin. New
gwenview works fine for me, again I nuked the old stuff first. I
actually use gqview instead of gwenview, though.

KDE4 versions of k3b, digikam, k9copy, koffice all seem to work well for me.

The only app I am really disappointed with is Amarok 2. I really liked
Amarok 1 and they started over for Amarok 2 and I dislike just about
everything they've done to it. The tree-view collection list is
awful!!!!, the UI is bad (middle 50% of screen is wasted), playlist is
not intuitive. Does not support titles in cue files. The only thing
they've done better is Last.fm works better... but I am about [------]
this close to going back to Amarok 1 and taking on board the KDE3 libs
it brings with it.

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