On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 05:20:00PM -0400, james wrote:
> > The functions being discussed in this thread belong to the
> > trustees (the board of directors for the foundation) [1]. Thhey are
> > definitely not part of the council's skill set [2].
>
> The Gentoo social contract is fine; as long as f
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 01:15:51PM -0400, james wrote:
> On 8/28/20 5:10 PM, antlists wrote:
> > On 28/08/2020 19:10, james wrote:
> >>
> >> A council member, from say England, could manage how 1/2 of what they
> >> raise is spent. It could even "english centric" but must comply with
> >> USA IRS
Hi Majid,
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 01:04:48PM +0100, Majid Hussain wrote:
> hi there,
> i'm blind and wanted to get started with gentoo.
> what's accessibility like?
> is there speech via orca the screen reader or sound on the minimal iso
> via espeakup provided?
> I red this document,
> https://w
On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 07:24:00PM +0200, Hartmut Figge wrote:
> William Hubbs:
>
> >I ran the following command as root to fix this:
> >
> >emerge --changed-deps y -NDuqa @world
> >
> >Once you run this,
>
> Phew. 262 packages will be emerged. Well,
On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 03:26:32PM -, Grant Edwards wrote:
> This morning emerge is complaining that virtual/pam-0-r1 is masked and
> scheduled for removal in 14 days. But virtual/pam is required by
> sys-apps/shadow which is part of the base profiles.
>
> What am I missing?
I ran the follow
On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 01:57:31AM -, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2019-03-30, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> > On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 17:39:03 - (UTC) Grant Edwards wrote:
> >
> >> glibc 2.27 has an include file "ustat.h" which declares a library
> >> function ustat(). glibc 2.28 does not have that
On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 08:33:39AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 17:57:40 -0800, Daniel Frey wrote:
>
> > After looking through docs I was scratching my head and it took me a
> > while of searching to find a usable grub.cfg file, as permutations I
> > tried never seemed to wo
On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 11:19:33AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
> 161004 Todd Goodman wrote:
> > * Philip Webb [161003 20:04]:
> >> there is also /etc/conf.d/hostname ,
> >> wh belongs to Openrc & contains 'hostname="localhost"'.
> > recently a change -- to OpenRC, I believe -- requires the
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 07:41:52PM +0100, hasufell wrote:
> Starting with USE="-*" on a server (which is a sane thing to do) has
> become a lot more difficult as well.
No, starting with USE="-*" is very dangerous. It is not recommended nor
supported, in any setup, by the dev community. If you do i
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 05:24:39PM -0700, walt wrote:
> On 10/08/2013 09:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
>
> > to provide service supervision, which is the main
> > feature systemd offers
>
> By supervision do you mean restarting a service after it crashes, for example?
R
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 08:11:48PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am 08.10.2013 02:03, schrieb walt:
> > On 09/29/2013 04:58 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> >
> >> As much as I hate systemd
> > My Alzheimer's prevents me from remembering your reasons for hating systemd.
> > Would you *very*
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 03:32:40PM +, James wrote:
> Well, these minimalist--> embedded distros have finely tuned
> kernels and that is a quintessential characteristic. If the upstream kernel
> is availble in source form, with some docs, then why does the (mini) distro
> just make provisions fo
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 09:39:27PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
> I chuckle at what s6's author wrote about systemd:
>
> http://skarnet.org/software/s6/s6-svscan-not-1.html
>
Yes, I saw that too.
I don't know anything about D-Bus, so I can't comment specifically about
it, but I tend to agree qui
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:52:36AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:44:35AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote:
> > > Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas:
> > >
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote:
> Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas:
>
> http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html
Yes, I have been looking at this for a few days, and some of the other
members of the OpenRC team are interested in it as well.
I am wait
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 09:21:01PM -0500, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> > /usr/lib/udev.
> > /usr/lib/systemd.
> >
> > were both placed in /usr despite objections from a number of folks.
> >
> > So claims that udev and systemd are not responsible are not true.
Udev is installed in / in gentoo
All,
I can clarify one part of the systemd issue, because I have been
involved in this part of the issue for months. Again, I am not trying
to start a dispute here, just providing a clarification.
The choice to install all of the systemd binaries in /usr is not an
upstream choice. It was a choic
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 01:21:30PM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> > On 2013-09-28 4:17 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 19:04:41 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> >>
> I suppose that what I am about to say isn't rea
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 01:55:49PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2013-09-28 6:36 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > So this brings us back to the essential technical problem that still
> > needs to be solved on your machines:
> >
> > /usr needs to be available (and not only for BT keyboards) at the
> > e
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 07:32:20PM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 05:57:06PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> > Bruce Hill wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 05:33:02PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> > >> I'm hoping that since I use eudev, I don't have to worry about this.
> > >> If I do, this coul
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:12:05AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 15:04:38 -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
>
> > For the folks who lost /etc/conf.d/net, was it the stub file that came
> > with OpenRC, or had you modify it?
>
> I've tried the upd
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:52:29PM -0700, Keith Dart wrote:
> Re
> 20130814084336.1c295d16@dartworks.biz20130814084336.1c295d16@dartworks.biz20130802203646.GA3926@linux1,
> William Hubbs said:
> > For the folks who lost /etc/conf.d/net, was it the stub file that came
> > wi
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 02:40:54PM -0500, »Q« wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:24:01 +0100
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 08:43:36 -0700, Keith Dart wrote:
> >
> > > I just got around to upgrading to it. When I did my /etc/conf.d/net
> > > file disappeared, and my network interf
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 08:43:36AM -0700, Keith Dart wrote:
> Re , William Hubbs said:
> > All,
> >
> > This message is an announcement and a reminder.
> >
> > OpenRc-0.12 will be introduced to the portage tree in the next few
> > days.
> >
&g
All,
This message is an announcement and a reminder.
OpenRc-0.12 will be introduced to the portage tree in the next few days.
If you are using ~arch OpenRc, the standard disclaimer applies: remember
that you might be subject to breakage.
I do not know of any breakage personally. It does work on
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:46:12PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 12:12:56AM +0200, Michael Hampicke wrote
>
> > >> Of course from many threads from a pro audio user called Ralf, Gentoo
> > >> users and so a fraction of Linux users are the only ones lucky enough
> > >> to be a
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 09:49:19AM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> > Feel free to remove PA if you don't need it. I really don't see any
> > scope for Lennart to make all of alsa redundant anytime soon (unlike
> > udev...)
>
> Of course from many threads from a pro audio user called Ralf, Gentoo
>
On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 02:04:35PM -0400, Nick Khamis wrote:
> Is changing it back to eth0 and eth1 like pulling teeth?
No, it isn't. There are several ways to name your interfaces. They are
discussed on the freedesktop.org wiki page linked in the news item.
William
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On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 10:25:50AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2013-04-05 4:11 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 02:38:21PM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote:
> >> Just dealing with one server and my Linux router, they've been updated to
> >> sys-fs/udev-
On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 02:58:02PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
> I'd still like to know why the contents of my current rules file differs
> so much from the examples I've seen... ie, the two extra items that are
> in mine ('DRIVERS==' and 'KERNEL=='), and the missing one
> ('ACTION==')... and whethe
On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 02:38:21PM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote:
> Just dealing with one server and my Linux router, they've been updated to
> sys-fs/udev-200 and are both still using the same
> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file they've had for over a year,
> which was working with udev-171
On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 01:41:28PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 01:32:23PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
> > But what confuses me about that linked page is that from what I've heard
> > from others here, option 1 - which is the option I think I'd pr
On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 01:32:23PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
> But what confuses me about that linked page is that from what I've heard
> from others here, option 1 - which is the option I think I'd prefer -
> requires more than just symlinking 80-net-name-slot.rules to
> /dev/null...? Apparently
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 09:07:00AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2013-04-04 5:13 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > I gets so bad that people are starting to make shit up to be worried
> > about, instead of just reading the simple document that is right in
> > front of their eyes that already fully and c
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 01:44:18PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg) wrote:
> > On 2013-03-31, Dale wrote:
> >> Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg) wrote:
> >>> On 2013-03-31, Dale wrote:
> Pandu Poluan wrote:
> >
> > Since it's obvious that upsteam has this "my way or the highway"
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 04:58:00PM +, Mick wrote:
> On Friday 07 Dec 2012 16:41:27 William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 09:24:54AM -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
> > > I want to explain about the recent openrc's going directly to stable.
> > >
> >
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 09:24:54AM -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
> I want to explain about the recent openrc's going directly to stable.
>
> The team had been testing from the previous stable, 0.9.x series all the
> way through 0.10.x. We found out recently that releng needed
I want to explain about the recent openrc's going directly to stable.
The team had been testing from the previous stable, 0.9.x series all the
way through 0.10.x. We found out recently that releng needed the new
openrc stable because of the cds/isos being broken.
There hadn't been bugs reported,
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:19:35PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> Hi; I've been running systemd in Gentoo since September from 2010, and
> it works great for me: all my machines run it at this point. Right
> now, we are getting really close to the point where we will be able to
> uninstall sys
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 08:31:21PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:14:19 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
> > What I meant was, I rely on ls to remind me (or other sysadmins) that
> > the file is special and should not be edited willy-nilly.
>
> > I don't want a well-meaning but
On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 06:06:35PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > I'll spend some time I don't have reading the archives, then see.
>
>
> Well, they are about to move some openrc things to /usr or at least that
> was the way it was leaning earlier. The thread is titled "rfc: usi
Hi Alan and all,
On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 05:19:46PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> easy.
>
> Two USE flags: gtk2 and gtk3
>
> in ebuild:
>
> DEPEND="
> gtk2? (x11-libs/gtk+:2)
> gtk3? (x11-libs/gtk+:3)
> "
This doesn't account for all possible use flag settings. If I had
neither flag se
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:36:47PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Sunday 19 June 2011 16:38:35 Dale wrote:
>
> > I don't know when it got added but it is on mine. This is in the help
> > page:
> >
> >rcManage /etc/init.d scripts in runlevels
> >
> > It works somet
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 07:19:16AM -0400, David Relson wrote:
> Why not use "echo >> ..." ??
>
> Since the ">>" does an append, the original file contents are still
> available for reference.
>
> Since the added line is at the end of the file, the new value will be
> used instead of the old val
Hi all,
this issue is being worked currently. The bug you want to follow is
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368597
William
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On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 07:47:47PM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi,
>
> can someone recommend a speech synthesizer, which parameters like
> voice (child/adult/male/female...and other) are configurable and
> which is -not- festival?
Have you looked at espeak? Does it allow this type of con
Hi Dale,
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 09:20:52AM -0500, Dale wrote:
> So do I need to create a runlevel called dalesboot and then just put the
> same stuff in it as is in the normal boot level? I have to say, that is
> weird. A runlevel should be used by both the system and available to
> the us
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 06:47:59AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On last question/confirmation -
>
> There are a few updates other than just the baselayout/OpenRC updates
> pending... can I still emerge those now, prior to the baselayout update,
> like normal?
Yes, as long as they do not have a depen
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:36:29AM -0400, Willie Wong wrote:
> There's no big harm, except that you may end up rebuilding a bunch of
> packages. One way to get a lot of hands-on control on precisely what
> USE you want it via the "-*" flag. But be VERY careful if you are
> going to use it. A USE va
Hi Mick,
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 08:27:16PM +0100, Mick wrote:
> Here's mine if you want to compare with my previously sent output:
>
> $ cat /etc/env.d/02locale
> LANG="en_GB.UTF-8"
*snip*
This is all you need.
> LC_CTYPE="en_GB.UTF-8"
Or, If you are running a multi user system and do not w
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 04:21:41PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Friday 13 May 2011 03:30:27 Manuel McLure wrote:
> > Just ran into a gotcha with my main server upgrade to
> > openrc/baselayout2 - it appears that the old ifconfig network syntax
> > no longer works. I kept getting the message:
>
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 03:33:02PM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 05/11/2011 03:16 PM, Marius Vaitiekunas wrote:
> /etc/env.d/02locale. Here, it looks like this:
>
>LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8"
>LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
It is not recommended that you set LC_ALL in startup files at all, just
lang
Hi Walter,
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 08:19:10PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> config_eth0=
The quote on the line below this should be moved up, so it looks like:
config_eth0="
192.168.123.249/29 broadcast 192.168.123.255 mtu 1454
169.254.1.3/16 broadcast 169.254.255.255"
routes_eth0=
Same here:
r
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:36:58PM +0100, Mick wrote:
> I've unmasked the latest available after reading the changelogs:
>
> sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.2
>
> sys-apps/openrc-0.8.2-r1
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=295613
You are correct about the versions.
William
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On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 05:30:40PM -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Bill Longman wrote:
>
> > On 08/09/2010 01:08 PM, Robert Bridge wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Mick wrote:
> > >> There have been discussions on this list why sudo is a bad idea and su
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 09:30:18AM +0100, Justin wrote:
> On 01/03/10 16:39, Lie Ryan wrote:
> > I've found a few people referencing to a "30-day stabilization policy"
> > which basically says a package must be at least 30-days-old to be
> > considered for stabilization, but is there any document t
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 12:16:14AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> "sudo su" and "su" have a fundamental difference, vital in corporate networks:
>
> The former uses the user's password for authentication and sudoers for
> authorization. The latter uses knowledge of the root password for
> authori
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 03:56:13PM -0500, stosss wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:28 AM, pk wrote:
> > ubiquitous1980 wrote:
> >
> >>> http://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2006/07/msg00059.html
> >
> >> With "sudo su - " the man pages do not have ESC throughout. ?I have
> >> learned sudo su f
On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 03:52:15PM -0800, walt wrote:
> On 02/04/2010 01:29 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > ...Gentoo now supports multiple package
> > managers, so portage is not required either.
>
> I seem to be falling behind. What other package managers does gentoo support?
There are two othe
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 11:03:10PM -0500, David Relson wrote:
> Is it safe to delete sysvinit and emerge openrc-0.6.0-r1? Am I likely
> to get myself into troubleif I do this? If so, how much and how deep?
The latest version of sysvinit, 2.87-r3, is the one you should be
running with openrc.
Th
Hi Neil and all,
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 02:23:13PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:36:41 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>
> > The machine I was installing on was a laptop with no available desk top
> > to place it on. Therefore I decided to get SSH up and running as early
> >
lready using baselayout-2 and openrc, and whether I need to do what
> that page says.
If you have moved from x86 to ~x86, you definitely need to do this.
baselayout-1 is x86 and baselayout-2/openrc are ~x86.
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should be looking at is /etc/rc.conf and you
should not use app-admin/showconsole.
Just set RC_LOGGER to yes as shown in the comments.
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s, you should be able to start the dm by doing this
as root:
/etc/init.d/xdm restart
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gentoo accessibility team lead
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On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 09:30:29PM +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Dienstag 06 Oktober 2009 19:50:36 schrieb William Hubbs:
> > Actually, what you want to add is gentoo=nox. nox alone is for use on
> > the live cd only, but gentoo=nox works everywhere else.
>
> Then
"nox" to your boot options.
Actually, what you want to add is gentoo=nox. nox alone is for use on
the live cd only, but gentoo=nox works everywhere else.
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> any way, or any tool to help with this task?
Yes, there is a tool called eclean which will handle this. It is in the
gentoolkit package, so emerge gentoolkit and you should have it.
Thanks,
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web site with no problem, and
I'm also on irc with no problem,.
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in a local overlay.
Does this do what you are trying to do?
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the CD?
Yes, that is being worked on, but we are using espeak, speakup and
espeakup for the speech.
If you haven't played with espeak, it is a small, light weight, multi
lingual speech synthesizer that is much more responsive than festival.
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portage tree.
So, what I'm trying to figure out is how popular festival is and what it
is being used for. If you use festival, can you reply to this thread
and give me an idea of how important this package is to you and how
often you use it, etc?
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can't do on a binary distro since everything is
already compiled for you.
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On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 10:14:45AM -0700, Nitin Kanaskar wrote:
> Ok - I am not clear about the terminology -
> packages, versions...
> But i need to install gentoo 2004/2005 - if this
> is right. I am a graduate student doing research on
> vulnerabili
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Hi Daniel,
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 05:17:04PM -0400, Daniel Barkalow wrote:
> I don't know about mutt, but there's a flag in alpine to color quoted
> text. It might be possible to get your screen reader to use different
> voices for different colors
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Hi Neal and all,
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 07:39:29PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> That's an interesting point, and the first real justification for
> top-posting I've seen. Although I would have thought it should be
> possible to have your mailer hide
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All,
I don't normally get involved in these threads, but I want to point out
another reason for top posting.
As a blind computer user, sometimes it is more convenient to top post,
because I don't know of a way to make my screen reading software skip
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Hi again James,
I am moving this thread to gentoo-accessibility, so can we continue
discussion there?
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 02:27:13PM -0500, James Homuth wrote:
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: William Hubbs [mailto:willi..
ked on.
For now, the last live cd with speakup on it was 2007.0, so you have to
install from that cd.
For now, it is possible with the 2008.0 live cd to install over an ssh
connection if you can get to the box that way.
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gentoo accessibility team lead
willi...@gentoo.org
hich uses use flag bar and you want to have
that use flag turned on, just put this line in /etc/portage/package.use.
foo bar
That will turn on the bar use flag for package foo, regardless of
whether foo is from the main tree or an overlay.
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gentoo accessibility team lead
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Hi Dave,
On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 07:54:53PM -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote:
>
> Just set up the following recipe for postfix/courier-imapd/procmail:
>
> :0
> * ^(From|Cc|To).*gentoo-user
> $HOME/.maildir/.Gentoo.User/new/
Close, but not quite.
Here i
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