[gentoo-user] Re: List of installed packages that don't like 3.13 Python?

2025-05-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-05-06, Eli Schwartz wrote: How do I get a list of installed packages that are preventing switching to Python 3.13. > Install "pkgcore". > > Run: > > pquery -I \ > --has-use python_targets_python3_12 \ > --has-use python_single_target_python3_12 \ > --attr use | grep

[gentoo-user] Re: List of installed packages that don't like 3.13 Python?

2025-05-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-05-05, Adam Carter wrote: > On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 12:12 AM Grant Edwards > wrote: > >> How do I get a list of installed packages that are preventing >> switching to Python 3.13. >> > > Just one package blocking 3.13 for me > # emerge -pv --emptytree

[gentoo-user] Re: List of installed packages that don't like 3.13 Python?

2025-05-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-05-05, Adam Carter wrote: > On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 12:12 AM Grant Edwards > wrote: > >> How do I get a list of installed packages that are preventing >> switching to Python 3.13. > > Just one package blocking 3.13 for me On a second machine I did 10 R

[gentoo-user] Re: List of installed packages that don't like 3.13 Python?

2025-05-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-05-05, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 5/5/25 11:53 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: >>> Which packages is it trying to update that don't support 3.13? >> >> A coupled days after the May 1st switch, 'emerge -auvND world' refused >> to run because libftdi

[gentoo-user] Re: List of installed packages that don't like 3.13 Python?

2025-05-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-05-05, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 5/5/25 10:39 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> Isn't there any sort of check that emerge can run _before_ the switch >> happens to find out whether the switch is going to cause problems for >> installed packages? > > Yes, eme

[gentoo-user] Re: List of installed packages that don't like 3.13 Python?

2025-05-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-05-05, Grant Edwards wrote: > How do I get a list of installed packages that are preventing > switching to Python 3.13. I'm trying to decide whether to defer the > upgrad or try to "fix" individual packages. But, emerge will only > tell me about one package a

[gentoo-user] List of installed packages that don't like 3.13 Python?

2025-05-05 Thread Grant Edwards
How do I get a list of installed packages that are preventing switching to Python 3.13. I'm trying to decide whether to defer the upgrad or try to "fix" individual packages. But, emerge will only tell me about one package at a time. I have no idea if there I've got 1 more package to fix or 100 mo

[gentoo-user] Re: Fragile python update is wedged [Was: Fragile rust update is wedged].

2025-05-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-05-02, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > It was an update. It was for the purpose of replacing python 3.12 with > python 3.13. Thus it was a python update. Wow. As Kelly Bundy used to say: "The mind wobbles!" -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: Why do I suddently need python_targets and python_signle_target?

2025-05-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-05-02, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On Fri, 2025-05-02 at 16:26 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote: >> After a normal --sync and -auvND world, it seems I suddenly need to >> specify use flags python_targets and python_single_target for various >> packages. >> >> I

[gentoo-user] Why do I suddently need python_targets and python_signle_target?

2025-05-02 Thread Grant Edwards
After a normal --sync and -auvND world, it seems I suddenly need to specify use flags python_targets and python_single_target for various packages. I've never had to set those before. Yesterday's update went fine. Any idea what happened? -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub fails. I missed something.

2025-03-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-03-17, Grant Edwards wrote: > You /can/ use an embedded block list to install legacy BIOS boot mode > grub using an MBR table without a BIOS Boot Partition, but don't do > it. [,,,] Oops, I meant to say "legacy BIOS boot mode grub using a GPT partition table...&quo

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub fails. I missed something.

2025-03-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-03-16, Michael wrote: > Ugh! I didn't provide a comprehensive answer - sorry. All this MBR > nostalgia > I've been trying to forget. LOL! > > If you are installing GRUB on a GPT disk, which is meant to boot on > a legacy BIOS MoBo, you *must* create a BIOS Boot Partition (gdisk > cod

[gentoo-user] permissions for /dev/uinput

2025-03-05 Thread Grant Edwards
I'm working on an application that allows you to remap/mix/reconfigure the channels/buttons on a USB joystick/game-controller device. That requires access to /dev/uinput which is used to create a "synthetic" joystick device and feed data to it. On Gentoo /dev/uinput is accessible only to root.

[gentoo-user] Re: m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-03-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-03-02, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sun, Mar 02, 2025 at 10:01:41AM -0600 schrieb Dale: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2025-02-28, Dale wrote: >>> >>>> We all know the Samsung m.2 sticks are really good. They are well >>>> known f

[gentoo-user] Re: m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-28, Dale wrote: > We all know the Samsung m.2 sticks are really good. They are well > known for the quality. I can definitely agree with that. Over the years I've installed probably close to fifteen Samsung flash drives. Some SATA, some m.2, a couple USB 3. They're all still worki

[gentoo-user] Re: Libreoffice massive RDEPEND reduction

2025-02-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-28, Grant Edwards wrote: >> Since the official binhost introduction -- which automatically builds >> app-office/liberoffice for gnome and KDE profiles -- there is decreased >> value in pre-building it manually like this. At the same time, the >> maintainer

[gentoo-user] Re: Libreoffice massive RDEPEND reduction

2025-02-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-28, Eli Schwartz wrote: > Back in the day, libreoffice-bin was a version of libreoffice that was > built by Gentoo developers against Gentoo packages, and hosted as a > prebuilt tarball. It required specific dependency versions of various > things. Yep. > Since the official binhost i

[gentoo-user] Libreoffice massive RDEPEND reduction

2025-02-27 Thread Grant Edwards
I did a routine update today (which I do most days): emerge --sync emerge -auvND world emerge --depclean --ask That last command removed 50 packages! [listed below] It looks like that's allmost all the result of the libreoffice-bin upgrade from 24.2.7.2 to 24.8.4. Looking at the tw

[gentoo-user] Re: Need help with recommended budget for hardware

2025-02-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-20, whiteman...@paraboletancza.org wrote: > I want to build a PC with Gentoo and I need to know how much money > should I spend on it. > > To clarify, I'll tell more for what I'm going to use PC: > * computer will be mostly used for programming in languages like C, C++, > sysadmin,

[gentoo-user] Re: m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-25, Wols Lists wrote: > Champagne or Coca-Cola? > > New tech generally costs double the price for double the quantity, be it > hard drive capacity, chip speed, whatever. > > Older tech tends to be a similar price regardless of capacity, the bulk > of the cost is in the packaging and

[gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-21, Dale wrote: > Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> Am Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 11:36:47PM - schrieb Grant Edwards: >>> On 2025-02-20, Dale wrote: >>>>> Use flags for ffmpeg would give us a better idea. But I would guess >>>>> they're ei

[gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted

2025-02-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-20, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Another thing to consider: don’t put it into the safe for a year without > powering it up. As was explained in a previous mail, QLC uses sixteen > different levels of charge inside one single flash cell. The chance of a bit > flip increases the longer

[gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-20, Dale wrote: > >> Use flags for ffmpeg would give us a better idea. But I would guess >> they're either AV1 or H.265 encoded. > > I'm getting some help off list from another Michael.  O_O  He suggested > several USE flag changes. Some I never heard of. Ask ffmpeg what's in the file.

[gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-20, Dale wrote: > Well, it plays some older .mkv files already.  These are some type > of NEW .mkv files.  I forgot to mention that point.  I have a lot of > other videos that are .mkv and they play fine, have for ages. OK, so the problem isn't with the .mkv container format. > It's

[gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gpac and media-video/mplayer fails to build.

2025-02-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-20, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 11:01 AM Dale wrote: >> >> Howdy, >> >> I downloaded some really new videos the other day, .mkv ones. Nothing I >> had would play them, mplayer or mpv based players. > > Convert them using handbrake. Probably saves you a bunch of disk s

[gentoo-user] Re: alternatives to USB sticks for reliable archiving

2025-02-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-19, Philip Webb wrote: >> If they start asking questions, just say: "I tried to format them on >> my PC. It ran for 10 hours, then failed". It doesn't matter what they ask >> apart from "cash refund, replacement or credit?", that's your answer. > > No, you're both quite wrong. "Both s

[gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted

2025-02-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-18, Michael wrote: > On Tuesday 18 February 2025 18:54:07 Greenwich Mean Time Philip Webb wrote: > >> So yes, at least 1 of the sticks is unusable & probably both. I >> can take/mail them back to the store & ask them to test them with >> Linux & refund my CAD if they confirm they're de

[gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : alternatives

2025-02-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-18, Philip Webb wrote: > 250218 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> I recommend an external USB case with an NVMe SSD inside. >> This may not be as compact and not as cheap, >> but they are much much much faster and probably longer-lasting >> than any USB stick, because their flash controllers

[gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : f3

2025-02-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-18, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> It had an M$ partition when I bought it. I replaced that with 4 >> partitions because using a 2/3.2 port took > 10 h to write a 256 GB >> filesystem & fail, whereas it took only 2 h 45 m to write a 64 GB >> partit

[gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : f3

2025-02-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-18, Philip Webb wrote: > 250218 Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2025-02-18, Philip Webb wrote: >>> So both sticks are genuine, as I would expect from that store. >> Have you tried just doing mkfs.ext4 [options] /dev/sdb? >> You only want one filesystem, right

[gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : f3

2025-02-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-18, Philip Webb wrote: > So both sticks are genuine, as I would expect from that store. > > I plan to try 'gparted' next, instead of 'fdisk' > & will send the results when I get them. Have you tried just doing mkfs.ext4 [options] /dev/sdb? You only want one filesystem, right? Why bo

[gentoo-user] Re: Dependency missing for libreoffice-bin?

2025-02-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-17, Grant Edwards wrote: > On my system, the only .so file that belonging to libreoffice-bin that > links in libQt5X11Extras.so.5 is program/libvclplug_qt5lo.so > > It looks like on my system, the "gen" version of the vcl plugin is used: > > $ lsof | g

[gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : more info

2025-02-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-17, Philip Webb wrote: > The sticks were delivered, so I can't easily return them, > & in any case we've had 50 cm snow dumped on us in the last few days. > If a Linux file system really is unachievable, Sounds to me like the USB flash drives might be fakes. They might have only a

[gentoo-user] Re: Dependency missing for libreoffice-bin?

2025-02-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-16, Jack wrote: > On 2025.02.16 02:18, Grant Edwards wrote: > [snip.] > >> I guess I could try removing qt11extras to see what breaks in >> libreoffice. I assumed it just wouldn't run, but if it's some sort >> of plugin that uses it, and I

[gentoo-user] Re: Dependency missing for libreoffice-bin?

2025-02-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-16, Michael wrote: > >> Once again: NOTHING IS PULLING IT IN. That's why emerge --depclean wants >> to remove it. > > Something has already pulled it in, if depclean is now trying to > remove it and according to depclean the culprit looks like > libreoffice-bin. I assumed a USE flag w

[gentoo-user] Re: Dependency missing for libreoffice-bin?

2025-02-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-16, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 2/13/25 2:51 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> Does this message from emerge --depclean mean that there's a >> dependency on dev-qt/qtx11extras:5 missing from the libreoffice-bin >> ebuild? >> >> Or have I managed to

[gentoo-user] Re: Dependency missing for libreoffice-bin?

2025-02-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-15, Michael wrote: > On Saturday 15 February 2025 05:03:14 Greenwich Mean Time Grant Edwards wrote: > >> Either that profile or something else you have in your world file >> pulls in qtx11extras as a dependency, so depclean doesn't try to >> remove it.

[gentoo-user] Re: Dependency missing for libreoffice-bin?

2025-02-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-14, Michael wrote: > > Hmm, I have app-office/libreoffice-bin-24.2.7.2 installed on one PC, but do > not have the same USE flags as you do and I do not get the same --depclean > output complaining about dev-qt/qtx11extras:: > > ~ $ emerge -av --pretend app-crypt/pinentry > > These are

[gentoo-user] Dependency missing for libreoffice-bin?

2025-02-13 Thread Grant Edwards
Does this message from emerge --depclean mean that there's a dependency on dev-qt/qtx11extras:5 missing from the libreoffice-bin ebuild? Or have I managed to break something? $ sudo emerge --depclean --ask Password: * Always study the list of packages [...] Calculatin

[gentoo-user] Re: Troubshooting AMD Radeon Vega system freeze [SOLVED]

2025-01-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-01-27, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2025-01-26, Grant Edwards wrote: >>>> On 2025-01-25, Grant Edwards wrote: >>>>> Starting about a week ago, my AMD system (AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with >>>>> Radeon Vega Graphics) has been freezing up multiple tim

[gentoo-user] Re: Troubshooting AMD Radeon Vega system freeze [SOLVED]

2025-01-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-01-26, Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2025-01-25, Grant Edwards wrote: >>>> Starting about a week ago, my AMD system (AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with >>>> Radeon Vega Graphics) has been freezing up multiple times per day -- >>>> always when in active us

[gentoo-user] Re: Troubshooting AMD Radeon Vega system freeze

2025-01-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-01-26, Daniel Frey wrote: > I had a problem with two of my Ryzen systems that exhibited this > behaviour. One has a G processor, the other doesn't > > Apparently Ryzen processors have an idle bug that locks up the > system in this way. The bugs manifests randomly when the CPU is > idle. F

[gentoo-user] Re: Troubshooting AMD Radeon Vega system freeze

2025-01-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-01-25, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2025-01-25, Grant Edwards wrote: >>> Starting about a week ago, my AMD system (AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with >>> Radeon Vega Graphics) has been freezing up multiple times per day -- >>> always when in active us

[gentoo-user] Re: Troubshooting AMD Radeon Vega system freeze

2025-01-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-01-25, Grant Edwards wrote: > Starting about a week ago, my AMD system (AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with > Radeon Vega Graphics) has been freezing up multiple times per day -- > always when in active use with X11. Before that, it had been reliable > since assembled (about 5 years ago).

[gentoo-user] Troubshooting AMD Radeon Vega system freeze

2025-01-25 Thread Grant Edwards
Starting about a week ago, my AMD system (AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with Radeon Vega Graphics) has been freezing up multiple times per day -- always when in active use with X11. Before that, it had been reliable since assembled (about 5 years ago). Ctrl-Alt-Backspace does nothing Ctrl-Alt-F1 does nothing

[gentoo-user] Re: Using Gentoo as server and desktop

2024-12-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-12-05, Michael wrote: > On Thursday 5 December 2024 23:01:36 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-12-05, Egoitz Aurrekoetxea wrote: >> All I've ever done for a kernel upgrades is to go into the new kernel >> source dir and do the following: >> >> #

[gentoo-user] Re: Using Gentoo as server and desktop

2024-12-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-12-05, Egoitz Aurrekoetxea wrote: > Does exist a way... where you could emerge world, update all the > system, finally end up by upgrading the kernel and being sure that > the old .config you used through menuconfig (or by any other way of > importing) would not select erroneous parameter

[gentoo-user] Re: How to generate broadcast TFTP read request?

2024-11-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-11-08, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Grant Edwards: >> I need to generate a broadcast UDP TFTP read request, and the usual >> TFTP client tools I use (atftp, tftpy) can't do that. Does anybody >> have a suggestion for an easy wat to generate such a request? >

[gentoo-user] How to generate broadcast TFTP read request?

2024-11-07 Thread Grant Edwards
I need to generate a broadcast UDP TFTP read request, and the usual TFTP client tools I use (atftp, tftpy) can't do that. Does anybody have a suggestion for an easy wat to generate such a request? All I need is to generate the initial request. I don't need to handle the actual data.

[gentoo-user] Re: Why does bind-tools 9.18 depend on bind?

2024-10-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-10-25, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On Fri, 2024-10-25 at 13:08 +0200, Holger Hoffstätte wrote: >> > >> > It's a Go package though, so it will quietly install a mountain a >> > random outdated static libraries from github. >> >> What? No, it will not. Those dependencies are absolutely not i

[gentoo-user] Re: Why does bind-tools 9.18 depend on bind?

2024-10-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-10-25, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 2024-10-25 00:47:27, Grant Edwards wrote: >> > >> > Try net-dns/doggo[2] >> >> Cool, and it doens't want to install 4 other new packages like >> bind-tools does. [OK, two are just account/group packag

[gentoo-user] Why does bind-tools 9.18 depend on bind?

2024-10-25 Thread Grant Edwards
Portage suddenly wants to install net-dns/bind so it can update bind-tools from 9.16 to 9.18. I've always had bind-tools installed, but it has never required that I install the bind server and its dependencies (for which I have no use). Older versions of bind-tools didn't require bind. The ebuilds

[gentoo-user] Re: Why does bind-tools 9.18 depend on bind?

2024-10-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-10-24, Matt Jolly wrote: > The commit that added 9.18.0[1] gives some context: > > >This is just a proxy for net-dns/bind. Splitting the ebuilds is > >*way* too fragile and gains nothing because the same software gets > >built again anyway, just thrown away at the end. I'm just not ke

[gentoo-user] Re: What's up with subversion 1.14.3?

2024-10-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-10-23, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 10/22/24 11:20 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> Yep. My bad. Both of the mirrors I had configured had stopped >> working, and I didn't notice that amongst the other 404 errors. It >> seems like I regularly have to pick a new

[gentoo-user] Re: What's up with subversion 1.14.3?

2024-10-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-10-23, Ionen Wolkens wrote: > If in doubt, just remove GENTOO_MIRRORS entirely and use the default > rotation. I never knew that was an option!

[gentoo-user] Re: What's up with subversion 1.14.3?

2024-10-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-10-23, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 10/22/24 11:05 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> The Subversion 1.14.3 ebuild was stablized 22 hours ago, but it >> doesn't actually seem to be available for download. Any ideas on what >> happened? > This mirror is broken so prob

[gentoo-user] What's up with subversion 1.14.3?

2024-10-22 Thread Grant Edwards
The Subversion 1.14.3 ebuild was stablized 22 hours ago, but it doesn't actually seem to be available for download. Any ideas on what happened? >>> Downloading >>> 'http://gentoo.ussg.indiana.edu/distfiles/subversion-1.14.3.tar.bz2' URL transformed to HTTPS due to an HSTS policy --2024-10-22

[gentoo-user] Re: NFS mounting

2024-10-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-10-18, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Why should an NFS server wait 15 seconds before reporting "No such file or > directory"? I don't remember this happenning with NFS servers specifically, but I've seen odd delays like this in other services when the server (or client) tries to do a reverse-

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-27, Dale wrote: >> You do know about the msmtp man page, right? > > Well, if copying someone's known working config file doesn't work right, > I'm not sure a man page is going to help much. The working configuration I provided didn't have an alias (or aliases) command in it. > That s

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-27, Dale wrote: > OK.  I added that line to the config file.  Then it gives me this error.  > > > root@Gentoo-1 / # echo foo | msmtp -v bogus > msmtp: /etc/msmtprc: line 5: unknown command alias > root@Gentoo-1 / # Sorry, my bad. It's aliases not alias: $ man msmtp | grep alias

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-27, Dale wrote: >>> Sep 26 19:04:26 Gentoo-1 smartd[18737]: Executing test of to root ... >>> Sep 26 19:04:36 Gentoo-1 msmtp[18815]: host=smtp.gmail.com tls=on >>> auth=off from=rdalek1967gmail.com recipients=root errormsg='the >>> server sent an empty reply' exitcode=EX_PROTOCOL >> A

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-27, Dale wrote: > It says port 465 but it is using Oauth2 if that matters. It doesn't. > I'll admit, the last time I got this working, I followed a guide and > it just worked.  Once it worked, I left it alone.  I was scared that > if I touched it, it would stop working.  LOL  > > I c

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-26, Dale wrote: > I removed ssmtp and installed msmtp. I think I got the config set up > but it is different so I may not have it right. It doesn't work tho. > From messages. > > > Sep 26 10:03:33 Gentoo-1 smartd[27728]: Executing test of to root ... > Sep 26 10:05:40 Gentoo-1 msmtp[3

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-26, Dale wrote: > root@Gentoo-1 / # telnet smtp.gmail.com 587 > Trying 142.251.116.108... > Trying 2607:f8b0:4023:1000::6c... > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable > root@Gentoo-1 / # > > Can't connect. Well, that explains a lot. It can't reach anything to

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-26, Grant Edwards wrote: > I just did a quick test, and sending via smtp.gmail.com using an app > password worked fine from mutt. I don't have msmtp set up at the > moment. Ijust set up msmtp and it works too. Below is the msmtp config, * If you want, replace "

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-26, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> It looks like your network is broken. Try this: >> >> $ telnet smtp.gmail.com 587 >> Trying 209.85.145.109... >> Connected to smtp.gmail.com. >> Escape character is '^]&

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-26, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-09-26, Dale wrote: > >> Sep 26 10:03:33 Gentoo-1 smartd[27728]: Executing test of to root ... >> Sep 26 10:05:40 Gentoo-1 msmtp[30861]: host=smtp.gmail.com tls=on >> auth=off from=rdalek1967gmail.com recipients=root errorm

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-26, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > I was looking at fastmail but which ever you go with, you should setup > your own domain and that way if you don't like your provider you can > change without changing your email address. I"ve decided to do that several times over the past couple de

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail change.

2024-09-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-26, Dale wrote: > >> It used to be the case you could set up an 'App Password' without having to >> provide them with your phone number and other 'none-of-their-business' >> personal information, but for some years now they have been asking for more >> information to allow you to com

[gentoo-user] Re: Why did Synaptics touchpad stop working?

2024-09-09 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-09, Jack wrote: > On 9/8/24 10:20 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> This morning when I booted my Thinkpad T580, the Synaptics touchpad >> buttons didn't work at all, and the "pointer" function just barely >> worked: the response was slow and jerky

[gentoo-user] Why did Synaptics touchpad stop working?

2024-09-08 Thread Grant Edwards
This morning when I booted my Thinkpad T580, the Synaptics touchpad buttons didn't work at all, and the "pointer" function just barely worked: the response was slow and jerky with a noticeable delay. In order to get it working again, I had to enable some rmi4 stuff in my kernel config: < # CO

[gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".

2024-09-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-04, Dale wrote: > At one point, I looked for a set of four sticks of the memory.  I > couldn't find any.  They only come in sets of two.  I read somewhere > that the mobo expects each pair to be matched. Yep, that's definitely how it was supposed to work. I fully expected my two (iden

[gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".

2024-09-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-04, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 07:09:43PM - schrieb Grant Edwards: >> […] >> I plugged them in alongside the recently purchased pair. Wouldn't >> work. Either pair of SIMMs worked fine by themselves, but the only way >>

[gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".

2024-09-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-04, Dale wrote: > I ordered another set of memory sticks. I figure I will have to send > them both back which means no memory at all. I wasn't planning to go to > 128GBs yet but guess I am now. [...] Good luck. The last time I had one fail, I needed the machine for work and couldn't

[gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".

2024-09-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-04, Dale wrote: > I forgot to ask, is there anything else that bad memory could affect?  > I'm doing the emerge -e world to make sure no programs were affected but > what about other stuff?  Could this affect hard drive data for example? Unfortunately, yes. I have had some failing RA

[gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".

2024-09-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-04, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 05:48:29AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >> I wonder how much fun getting this memory replaced is going to be.  o_O  > > I once had a bad stick of Crucial Ballistix DDR3. I think it also started > with GCC segfaults. So I took a picture o

[gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".

2024-09-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-03, Dale wrote: > I was trying to re-emerge some packages.  The ones I was working on > failed with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault" or similar > being the common reason for failing. In my experience, that usually means failing RAM. I'd try running memtest86 for a day or

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

2024-09-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-03, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-09-03, Matthew Brooks wrote: > >> It might be worth seeing what a full update of world, with the >> --emptytree flag says (though without actually doing the >> rebuild). Sometimes including that will notice inconsistencies

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

2024-09-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-03, Matthew Brooks wrote: > It might be worth seeing what a full update of world, with the > --emptytree flag says (though without actually doing the > rebuild). Sometimes including that will notice inconsistencies that > a regular emerge doesn't spot. I don't see anything. It still

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

2024-09-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-03, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-09-03, Matthew Brooks wrote: > >> While I'm not familiar enough with those packages to know for >> certain, it sounds like they're probably *build* dependencies for >> something, [...] > > I don't think

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

2024-09-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-03, Matthew Brooks wrote: > It might be worth seeing what a full update of world, with the > --emptytree flag says (though without actually doing the > rebuild). Sometimes including that will notice inconsistencies that > a regular emerge doesn't spot. Thanks, I'll try that next time

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

2024-09-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-03, Matthew Brooks wrote: > While I'm not familiar enough with those packages to know for > certain, it sounds like they're probably *build* dependencies for > something, but not actual *runtime* dependencies, and so depclean > prunes them, and then whenever the package that needs them

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

2024-09-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-03, Grant Edwards wrote: > For the past 4 days or so, every time I do a sync and then > 'emerge -auvND world', portage installs the following: > > qttools > qtbase > qttranslations > xcb-util-cursor > > Afterwards, when I do 'emerg

[gentoo-user] emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

2024-09-02 Thread Grant Edwards
For the past 4 days or so, every time I do a sync and then 'emerge -auvND world', portage installs the following: qttools qtbase qttranslations xcb-util-cursor Afterwards, when I do 'emerge --depclean', it uninstalls them. Any ideas why? It's getting a little annoying. -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I need firmware for an integrated graphics unit?

2024-08-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-08-23, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >>> That's a separate graphics card, isn't it? I'm trying to use the >>> integrated graphics processor on my Ryzen 7900. > >> No, it's integrated into the Ryzen 5 3400G. > > Sorry, I didn't recognise the chip number. Is it a laptop chip rather > than a deskto

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I need firmware for an integrated graphics unit?

2024-08-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-08-21, Wol wrote: > On 21/08/2024 14:49, Michael wrote: >>> That would involve me learning how to make and handle a modular kernel, >>> something I'd really rather not have to do. > >> Well, there's nothing to it really. Just configure your kernel with the >> drivers needed by your graphi

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I need firmware for an integrated graphics unit?

2024-08-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-08-21, Michael wrote: > Alternatively, as Wol mentioned, you can set up your kernel graphics drivers > as modules (temporarily) and inspect dmesg to find out what firmware is being > loaded. Then use this information to add the firmware file names to be built > in the kernel and also

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I need firmware for an integrated graphics unit?

2024-08-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-08-21, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Wol. > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 11:32:18 +0100, Wol wrote: >> On 20/08/2024 22:16, Peter Böhm wrote: >> > Hello Alan, > >> >> Anyhow, I'm up to the stage of configuring the kernel, and I'm stuck at >> >> the bit where I need to specify the firmware to

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I need firmware for an integrated graphics unit?

2024-08-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-08-21, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Grant. > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 00:30:25 -0000, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-08-20, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > >> > I've just treated myself to a new machine based on a Ryzen 9 7900 >> > processor. I cho

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I need firmware for an integrated graphics unit?

2024-08-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-08-20, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > I've just treated myself to a new machine based on a Ryzen 9 7900 > processor. I chose the second newest generation so as not to get caught > out with not quite debugged systems like I did the last time round. > > Anyhow, I'm up to the stage of configuring

[gentoo-user] Re: 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-07-29, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> [...] I (for one) would appreciate some sort of notice when such an >> unbundling happens so that I don't waste time trying to track down >> why emerge suddenly wants to install a bunch of new packages. I >> can't really come up with a good mechanism for tha

[gentoo-user] Re: 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-07-29, Eli Schwartz wrote: > >> It turns out dev-python/poetry has nothing to do with poetry, so my AI >> paranoia was unjustified (this time), but one wonders what devs are >> thinking when the decide they add dozens of new dependencies like >> that. Why does pip suddenly need to format (

[gentoo-user] 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Grant Edwards
This morning a routine emerge -auvND wanted to install 17 new packages for no apparent reason. Adding a 't' to the emerge options seems to point to pip, which now wants to install a whole shed-load of new packages — among them dev-python/poetry and a bunch of markdown and rich-text libraries. Oh g

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-28, Dale wrote: > Before I ran out of steam this morning, I tried the nouveau drivers > again.  I never can remember how to spell that. :/  I unmerged the > nvidia drivers to do this.  I used the in tree nouveau drivers tho.  For > some reason, even tho I removed the nvidia package and

[gentoo-user] Re: Eliminating unwanted linux-firmware blobs.

2024-06-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-28, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 6/28/24 6:31 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Friday, 28 June 2024 20:32:11 BST Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor wrote: >> >>> Remove the date.so it becomes >>> /etc/portage/savedconfig/sys-kernel/linux-firmware then it applies to all >>> of them and not the specified

[gentoo-user] Re: Eliminating unwanted linux-firmware blobs.

2024-06-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-28, Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor wrote: > Remove the date.so it becomes > /etc/portage/savedconfig/sys-kernel/linux-firmware > then it applies to all of them and not the specified version. Yes, that's the clue I was missing. -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Eliminating unwanted linux-firmware blobs.

2024-06-28 Thread Grant Edwards
Is there any graceful way to handle the elimination of unwanted linux-firmware blobs when doing an update? I believe I understand the process as outlined at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Linux_firmware: 1. install/upgrade sys-kernel/linux-firmware 2. edit /etc/portage/savedconfig/sys-kernel/linu

[gentoo-user] Re: Config file updates and using diff.

2024-06-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-27, Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I just finished a large update on my main rig.  I have a lot of config > files to update and some have new entries that are needed but I don't > want to lose the ones I've already set.  Usually, I just pick the new > one and have a saved copy of the old conf

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-24, Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: >> On Monday, 24 June 2024 20:47:15 BST Dale wrote: >> >>> Have you seen this before? >> No, because I've never used dracut. > > I just had a thought.  I have /usr on the root partition now.  Do I even > need a init thingy?  Same question as always: doe

[gentoo-user] Re: Arrow and edit keys?

2024-06-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-15, Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 19:20:26 BST Alan Grimes wrote: >> A number of my softwarez requires the use of the arrow keys and can't >> use the numpad in edit mode to work around it. So who do I need to kill >> to get arrow keys to work in x11 again? > > I don't under

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