Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] installing firefox 3 from tarball

2008-06-17 Thread deface
yeah, sync your portage tree, then emerge it On Jun 17, 2008, at 11:30 PM, maxim wexler wrote: Hi group, digg.com announces this is "firefox download day", so I got the tarball and unwrapped in my home dir. According to this http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Configuring_Build_Options

[gentoo-user] [OT] installing firefox 3 from tarball

2008-06-17 Thread maxim wexler
Hi group, digg.com announces this is "firefox download day", so I got the tarball and unwrapped in my home dir. According to this http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Configuring_Build_Options I'm supposed to make a .mozconfig file first then, not sure, run ./mozconfig? It doesn't say. Doesn'

Re: [gentoo-user] Downgrading glib

2008-06-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Grant wrote: > >> I downgraded from glib-2.17.2 to glib-2.14.6 and had problems so I > >> went back to 2.17.2. How can I make this downgrade successfully? > >> > >> - Grant > > > > revdep-rebuilt afterwards? > > Yeah revdep-rebuild only comes up with transmission (which

Re: [gentoo-user] mythdvd on Gentoo?

2008-06-17 Thread Mark Knecht
>> >> Eric, >> Thanks for responding. I tried emerging it on one of my frontends. >> The ebuild told me to remove it since mythdvd is now included in >> mythtv itself. I'm running 0.21 if that's different than your setup. >> Anyway, this implies I should see mythdvd stuff in my frontend already >

Re: [gentoo-user] mythdvd on Gentoo?

2008-06-17 Thread Eric Martin
Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Eric Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I wonder if anyone can share how to use the mythdvd module on Gentoo? I've always emerged mythtv with the dvd flag but the mythdvd module isn't emerged. Can't help with that as I'm not

Re: [gentoo-user] mythdvd on Gentoo?

2008-06-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Eric Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> I wonder if anyone can share how to use the mythdvd module on Gentoo? >> I've always emerged mythtv with the dvd flag but the mythdvd module >> isn't emerged. > > Can't help with that as I'm not in fr

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread fire-eyes
Platoali wrote: Well, last night the graphic card of my laptop got broken. So I'm considering to replace it with a workstation for some graphic applications (Mainly blender and gimp.) I need 3d acceleration, and my poor laptop was rendering for hours to get my job done. So I decide to buy a works

Re: [gentoo-user] Downgrading glib

2008-06-17 Thread Grant
>> I downgraded from glib-2.17.2 to glib-2.14.6 and had problems so I >> went back to 2.17.2. How can I make this downgrade successfully? >> >> - Grant > > revdep-rebuilt afterwards? Yeah revdep-rebuild only comes up with transmission (which could have needed a rebuild before messing with glib),

Re: [gentoo-user] mythdvd on Gentoo?

2008-06-17 Thread Eric Martin
Mark Knecht wrote: I wonder if anyone can share how to use the mythdvd module on Gentoo? I've always emerged mythtv with the dvd flag but the mythdvd module isn't emerged. Can't help with that as I'm not in front of my box ATM. It's not a problem for me to emerge it separately but I'm wonderin

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida (emacs or vi (gnome or kde) ...))

2008-06-17 Thread Iain Buchanan
Hi, I changed the subject slightly to make my point: Every person will have a different opinion, as the number of replies already shows. Everyone has had different experiences with either. Some people buy one card that never worked with the propriatary drivers, and therefore never buy from them

[gentoo-user] mythdvd on Gentoo?

2008-06-17 Thread Mark Knecht
I wonder if anyone can share how to use the mythdvd module on Gentoo? I've always emerged mythtv with the dvd flag but the mythdvd module isn't emerged. It's not a problem for me to emerge it separately but I'm wondering whether it needs to be emerged on only the backend or on every frontend or all

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-06-17, Nicolas Sebrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But now, it's not the same context. ATI specs are known and open source drivers coming. I'll believe it when I see it. It's definitely different of the "past few years". I doubt it. Well,

[gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-06-17, Nicolas Sebrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit: > >> Definitely nVidia. Over the past few years I've had a 3-4 of >> each (ATI and nVidia). > > But now, it's not the same context. ATI specs are known and open source > drivers coming. I'll

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Joshua D Doll
Hal Martin wrote: James wrote: Platoali gmail.com> writes: I want to know, what is the current status of ATI drivers in Linux? Does the problems have been solved? Can they compete with Nvidia? Just a suggestion, wait about a month before you buy, if you can. Both ATi and nVidia are p

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit: > Definitely nVidia. Over the past few years I've had a 3-4 of > each (ATI and nVidia). But now, it's not the same context. ATI specs are known and open source drivers coming. It's definitely different of the "past few years". -- Nicolas Sebrecht --

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage, RPM or DPKG: number of packaged software comparison

2008-06-17 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 18:23 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:09:43 +0200, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: > > > Debian, by a long shot. 26,000 packages. Next closest competitor > > (Ubuntu) has 23,000. > > Both of those split many packages into a two, with the headers in a > separat

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Dienstag, 17. Juni 2008, James wrote: > Hemmann, Volker Armin tu-clausthal.de> writes: > > > This comparison seems to rather neglect Intel. > > > > because Intel does not produce amd chipsets. > > > > > IMO Intel deserve our thanks for this for more than ATi or nVidia, > > > > and they deserve

[gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread James
Hemmann, Volker Armin tu-clausthal.de> writes: > > This comparison seems to rather neglect Intel. > because Intel does not produce amd chipsets. > > IMO Intel deserve our thanks for this for more than ATi or nVidia, > and they deserve damnation for their monopolistic tactics, their artificial

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread pk
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: Yes, ATI has released docu. Yes, everybody is working on the drivers. But the open ones only do 2d so far and the closed ones are horrible. I have had quite a few ATI cards (all radeon class) and have been using fglrx for almost as long as it has been out and have

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage, RPM or DPKG: number of packaged software comparison

2008-06-17 Thread Simon Jolle sjolle
On 06/17/2008 08:20 PM, Edward Hades wrote: > Maybe counting source packages would get better approximation? > Or counting unique upstream project URL's. Counting the lines of source code would be most appropriate. cheers Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Dienstag, 17. Juni 2008, Stroller wrote: > On 17 Jun 2008, at 17:18, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > ... > > if you want to make a political statement: buy ATI > > > > if you want to use the card with almost no problems and good > > performance: buy > > nvidia. > > This comparison seems to rath

[gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-06-17, Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 17 Jun 2008, at 17:18, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: >> ... >> if you want to make a political statement: buy ATI >> >> if you want to use the card with almost no problems and good >> performance: buy >> nvidia. > > This comparison seems to

Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

2008-06-17 Thread Florian Philipp
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:03:44 +0100 "Paul Melvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Florian, > > Mine will not associate with the hidden ap, my files are below, > please have a look to see if I have missed anything as I would like > to get this working > > /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf >

Re: [gentoo-user] Downgrading glib

2008-06-17 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Dienstag, 17. Juni 2008, Grant wrote: > I downgraded from glib-2.17.2 to glib-2.14.6 and had problems so I > went back to 2.17.2. How can I make this downgrade successfully? > > - Grant revdep-rebuilt afterwards? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage, RPM or DPKG: number of packaged software comparison

2008-06-17 Thread Edward Hades
Maybe counting source packages would get better approximation? Or counting unique upstream project URL's. On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Hemmann, Volker Armin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dienstag, 17. Juni 2008, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: >> Original Message >> Subject: Re

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Stroller
On 17 Jun 2008, at 17:18, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: ... if you want to make a political statement: buy ATI if you want to use the card with almost no problems and good performance: buy nvidia. This comparison seems to rather neglect Intel. Sure, they come a third place in pure performa

[gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread James
Platoali gmail.com> writes: > Although all tests have been run on windows. It seems that Ati have > better hardware and it is also going to be more open source friendly > in near future. I'm planning to use this workstation for 3 or 4 years > or even more. So I'm thinking to risk a little and be

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage, RPM or DPKG: number of packaged software comparison

2008-06-17 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Dienstag, 17. Juni 2008, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: > Original Message > Subject: Re: Portage, RPM or DPKG: number of packaged software comparison > Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:48:33 + (UTC) > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:47:19 -0700 > From

[gentoo-user] Downgrading glib

2008-06-17 Thread Grant
I downgraded from glib-2.17.2 to glib-2.14.6 and had problems so I went back to 2.17.2. How can I make this downgrade successfully? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage, RPM or DPKG: number of packaged software comparison

2008-06-17 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Tuesday 17 June 2008, 19:09, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: > On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 17:58 +0200, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: > > I am just curious which distribution have the most packaged Open > > Source software. It seems to me this is Debian? Is there a good > > comparison (numbers, statistics, etc

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Dienstag, 17. Juni 2008, Platoali wrote: > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Hemmann, Volker Armin > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > if you want to make a political statement: buy ATI > > > > if you want to use the card with almost no problems and good performance: > > buy nvidia. >

[gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-06-17, Platoali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does this mean that AMD have not released 3d parts of the drivers? Do > they plan to release the 3d parts? AMD hasn't release _any_ parts of the drivers, and they have no plans to do so. > Although all tests have been run on windows. It seems

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage, RPM or DPKG: number of packaged software comparison

2008-06-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:09:43 +0200, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: > Debian, by a long shot. 26,000 packages. Next closest competitor > (Ubuntu) has 23,000. Both of those split many packages into a two, with the headers in a separate -devel package. One of the reasons why such comparisons do little mo

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage, RPM or DPKG: number of packaged software comparison

2008-06-17 Thread Simon Jolle sjolle
Original Message Subject: Re: Portage, RPM or DPKG: number of packaged software comparison Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:48:33 + (UTC) Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:47:19 -0700 From: Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reference

Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

2008-06-17 Thread Zhu Sha Zang
To restart my wireless connection i make this: First, configuring my rtl8185 on /etc/conf.d/net Second, in /etc/init.d make a symbolic link where "ln -s net.lo net.wlan0" Finally /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start|stop|restart works well. Bye Paul Melvin escreveu: > Hi, > > > > I have a dell laptop

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Platoali
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Hemmann, Volker Armin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > if you want to make a political statement: buy ATI > > if you want to use the card with almost no problems and good performance: buy > nvidia. > > Yes, ATI has released docu. Yes, everybody is working on the

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
Hi, if you want to make a political statement: buy ATI if you want to use the card with almost no problems and good performance: buy nvidia. Yes, ATI has released docu. Yes, everybody is working on the drivers. But the open ones only do 2d so far and the closed ones are horrible. There are pr

Re: [SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

2008-06-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:40:05 +0100 (BST), Paul Sobey wrote: > (K)ubuntu use NetworkManager. For what it's worth, I also use this on my > laptop, and it works very well, particularly when you're joining a lot > of unknown networks, e.g. wandering into coffee shops etc.. It only > serves as a front

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -puv really slow?[OT]

2008-06-17 Thread Paul Sobey
> Out of interest, why? If the server only syncs once per week, you *know* > that nothing will change as far as the client (i.e. desktop) is > concerned 6 out of 7 of the times it syncs? Seems a waste? No reason at all - just set one up a few weeks after the first and didn't think. And of course i

RE: [SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

2008-06-17 Thread Paul Sobey
> Is wpa_supplicant the best/only way to do this? > > Please can anyone tell me how this works in ubuntu as it does seem to and > I > would hope that I could replicate it (K)ubuntu use NetworkManager. For what it's worth, I also use this on my laptop, and it works very well, particularly when you'

[gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-06-17, Platoali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, last night the graphic card of my laptop got broken. So I'm > considering to replace it with a workstation for some graphic > applications (Mainly blender and gimp.) I need 3d acceleration, and my > poor laptop was rendering for hours to ge

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Justin
Platoali schrieb: Well, last night the graphic card of my laptop got broken. So I'm considering to replace it with a workstation for some graphic applications (Mainly blender and gimp.) I need 3d acceleration, and my poor laptop was rendering for hours to get my job done. So I decide to buy a wor

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Justin
Galevsky schrieb: On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Hal Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Again, I haven't had any difficulties with the nVidia drivers. I'm running a GeForce 7900GTX, which uses the same linux driver as the Quadro does. Same here with nvidia driver on a 8800GTS GC. A f

RE: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

2008-06-17 Thread Paul Melvin
pplicant and /etc/conf.d/net-files. Here are some parts of my /etc/conf.d/net: modules_eth1=( "wpa_supplicant" ) wpa_supplicant_eth1="-Dwext" iwconfig_eth1="txpower on" #some SSID-specific options for nets I know. On every other net dhcp is #assumed config_SSID1=( "192.168.2.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" ) routes_SSID1=( "default via 192.168.2.1" ) dns_servers_SSID1=( "192.168.4.1" ) config_SSID2=( "dhcp" ) __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3193 (20080617) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Jesús Guerrero
Hello, I can only comment about my experience (facts). On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:42:22 +0430 Platoali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, last night the graphic card of my laptop got broken. So I'm > considering to replace it with a workstation for some graphic > applications (Mainly blender and gimp

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Galevsky
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Hal Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Again, I haven't had any difficulties with the nVidia drivers. I'm running a > GeForce 7900GTX, which uses the same linux driver as the Quadro does. Same here with nvidia driver on a 8800GTS GC. A former ATI addict who left

[gentoo-user] Multiple TV Cards.

2008-06-17 Thread Andrew MacKenzie
I'm building a MythTV box and I have two TV tuners I'd like to use. One is a AVerMedia TVPhone (video0 - this card works fine) the other is an ATI TV-Wonder VE (video1 - does not work fine). The TV Wonder apparently needs to be told which tuner to use via these instructions: http://mythtv.org/wik

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Hal Martin
James wrote: Platoali gmail.com> writes: I want to know, what is the current status of ATI drivers in Linux? Does the problems have been solved? Can they compete with Nvidia? Just a suggestion, wait about a month before you buy, if you can. Both ATi and nVidia are poised to release n

Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

2008-06-17 Thread Florian Philipp
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:07:31 +0100 "Paul Melvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Sergey, > > Thanks for that, since my question I have found that if I enter the > iwconfig command into /etc/conf.d/net it does work; i.e. > > iwconfig eth1 essid name_of_ssid > > However I am not sure how this wou

RE: [SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

2008-06-17 Thread Paul Melvin
can you also tell me a quick way to restart the interface to > make it go through all the negotiaton, as I have moved from ubuntu > where /etc/init.d/networking restart did it > > Cheers > > Paul > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > sign

[gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread James
Platoali gmail.com> writes: > I want to know, what is the current status of ATI drivers in Linux? > Does the problems have been solved? Can they compete with Nvidia? All religious questions, imho. Nvidia might have the latest edge in pure performance, but, the movement to open up sources is d

Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

2008-06-17 Thread Sergey Kobzar
; make it go through all the negotiaton, as I have moved from ubuntu > where /etc/init.d/networking restart did it > > Cheers > > Paul > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 3193 (20080617) __ > The messa

[gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

2008-06-17 Thread Paul Melvin
Hi, I have a dell laptop with intel wireless card (ipw2200) and am trying to configure it to use WPA-PSK. I have setup up the card correctly utilizing the ipw2200 module, wpa_supplicant and wireless_tools. If I use a broadcast ssid everything works, however if I turn off the broadcast o

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -puv really slow?[OT]

2008-06-17 Thread Anthony Metcalf
Paul Sobey wrote: I have my server --sync every Friday evening, and my desktop was syncing against that on a daily basis. Thanks for your help, that was driving me nuts. Paul Out of interest, why? If the server only syncs once per week, you *know* that nothing will change as far as the cl

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -puv really slow?

2008-06-17 Thread Paul Sobey
> Daniel Pielmeier wrote: >> In case of the timestamp issue i think it is a bug [1]. I think portage >> should first check the timestamps and if they are different it should >> delete the cache! > > Interesting idea - I've been running eix-sync in my crontab. Perhaps > that hasn't been updating the

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
Hello On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:42:22PM +0430, Platoali wrote: > And I want to know which one is better supported in Linux kernel > regardless of how much open/free the drivers is. I'm currently > thinking between Nvidia Quadro fx 1700 and Ati firegl 5600. Does > anyone have any comment about th

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/conf.d/net postup help

2008-06-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:44:10 -0700, Grant wrote: > >> postup() { > >>set -xv > >>if [[ ${IFACE} == "ath0" ]] ; then > >>iwconfig ath0 rate 2M > >>fi > >>return 0 > >> } > > > > What is wrong, the syntax looks fine. Does running the iwconfig > > man

[gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida

2008-06-17 Thread Platoali
Well, last night the graphic card of my laptop got broken. So I'm considering to replace it with a workstation for some graphic applications (Mainly blender and gimp.) I need 3d acceleration, and my poor laptop was rendering for hours to get my job done. So I decide to buy a workstation instead a l