Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving OpenRC to a meson-based build

2017-02-01 Thread james
ding in such matters. Still, from what I read, TUP warrants monitoring as new code contributions keep moving this blazingly fast build system tool forward. If others have first hand experience with TUP, I'd very much like to read about their comments and experiences with TUP. hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Guidelines for IUSE defaults

2017-02-02 Thread james
to share) there shall be many stage-4 minimal gentoo images to install from and go from there. So as much as all issues can be minimized, standardized, documented and look like other arches, the "mo better" imo. hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Guidelines for IUSE defaults

2017-02-02 Thread james
brances. CoreOS is taking this approach, as their bare metal bootstrapping occurs completely and well before systemd or any other PID1 schema is invoked or becomes a defacto requirement. Gentoo is all about freedom, right? hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Guidelines for IUSE defaults

2017-02-02 Thread james
On 02/02/2017 04:05 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 3:35 PM, james wrote: I think that unikernels are something everyone should be aware of as they purport to be the latest trend in securing all sorts of systems. (a brief read). Not really for all sorts, more for servers

Re: [gentoo-dev] Guidelines for IUSE defaults

2017-02-02 Thread james
On 02/02/2017 04:40 PM, David Seifert wrote: On Thu, 2017-02-02 at 15:35 -0500, james wrote: On 02/02/2017 01:01 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: If (base == minimal), then all of the upstream defaults need to be added to package.use for the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Guidelines for IUSE defaults

2017-02-03 Thread james
ist into the same area of the profile tree. We can then share ideas and results of testing. I really need to apologize to many devs. But, I'm getting very close to having something absolutely wonderful, about 90% thanks to the gentoo devs. I do not want to appear to be childish throwing a tantrum about this, but, well, I just really cannot help it; as y'all can imagine? hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Guidelines for IUSE defaults

2017-02-03 Thread james
On 02/03/2017 12:39 PM, james wrote: So imagine flags are a giant 'sparse matrix' that I need to 'mollify' individually periodically, then run CI on that complete-set of packages, and then test against automated attack vectors. So, were we to want to 'enhance&#x

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2016-06-02 Thread james
e guidexml page for empi is old, so where do I read up on it's projected usage (just not familiar with that empi project/package). James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2016-06-03 Thread james
On 06/03/2016 12:02 PM, Justin Bronder wrote: On 02/06/16 10:42 -0500, james wrote: On 06/01/2016 06:20 PM, Justin Bronder wrote: > Due to a lack of time and the fact I don't use any of these packages > anymore, they are all up for grabs. > > - media-gfx/ope

Re: [gentoo-dev] Repo mirror & CI project news: 'stable' gentoo branch, new repo stats, faster CI

2016-06-05 Thread james
nt from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Well, my question is very basic. In the past, I've used euscan, the site on gentooexperimental.org, or app-portage/euscan the software to determine freshness of a package, for a variety of reasons. Is euscan going to be tied-in or at least coordinated with CI for consistency? James

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project

2016-06-07 Thread james
On 06/07/2016 09:25 AM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 7 czerwca 2016 16:16:38 CEST, Ian Stakenvicius napisał(a): On 07/06/16 05:18 AM, Raymond Jennings wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:55 AM, Robin H. Johnson mailto:robb...@gentoo.org>> wrote: On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 09:44:42AM +0200, Dirkj

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-08 Thread james
ill be a (cook)book for self paced study for user==>dev, without the noise of irc. ps, I already completed the ebuild quiz and most of the end-o-mentoring quiz. The things not finished are in flux due to changes. Still, I have holes in both my 'big picture comprehension of gentoo-b

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-08 Thread james
ccomplishes the same for Gentoo. Do NOT - I repeat NOT - tie "user repos" to GitHub Inc., please do not even bother working on a prototype there (looking at you James), because if it is good enough it will stick, and as the social contract rightfully states, it's important to remain i

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-10 Thread james
in this direction too, imho. 3) needs (desires) gentoo managed repos, not github For now, we can use github for users. A glep or 2 can solved 1 and (2), well I was politely turned down, so suggestions on documentation to achieve this? Data-mining of emails and irc could easily provide the first-draft of the docs for need (2). James

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-10 Thread james
On 06/10/2016 10:20 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote: On 10/06/16 17:16, james wrote: And this effort needs a documentation collection to support users, post installation to their target (ideal stage-4?) collection of packages; many of which they maintain themselves even if a strong-user or dev helps

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-11 Thread james
On 06/10/2016 10:09 PM, konsolebox wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 11:53 PM, james wrote: The grandiose-ness you propose should only come upon graduating from proxy school, imho. user-->strong-users-->proxy-->dev pathway. Pedantic, bureaucratic, procedure-oriented, monolithic, re

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-11 Thread james
On 06/11/2016 03:59 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: On 06/11/2016 01:58 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: On 06/11/2016 10:53 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: On 06/11/2016 07:48 AM, james wrote: There is also a gentoo-proxy-ma...@lists.gentoo.org list for these kinds of questions that is likely more

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-11 Thread james
On 06/11/2016 05:52 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:58:35PM +0200, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote On 06/11/2016 10:53 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: On 06/11/2016 07:48 AM, james wrote: [snip] Good/Bad idea, posting proxy-maintainer questions to gentoo-user? (recall irc

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-11 Thread james
On 06/11/2016 08:29 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: On 06/12/2016 04:20 AM, james wrote: Is there an archive to this wonderful list? I cannot seem to find the archive? https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=581370 So I read this bug, but it did not illuminate an active archive, but the

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-12 Thread james
On 06/12/2016 01:10 AM, konsolebox wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 11:09:39 +0800 konsolebox wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 11:53 PM, james wrote: The grandiose-ness you propose should only come upon graduating from proxy school, imho. user

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2016-06-12 Thread james
On 06/12/2016 04:01 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 10:42:03 -0500 james wrote: On 06/01/2016 06:20 PM, Justin Bronder wrote: > Due to a lack of time and the fact I don't use any of these packages > anymore, they are all up for grabs. > > - media

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-14 Thread james
and characterized and could be auto interrogated with extensions to wget, git, ftp and a host of other protocols employed to download source files. James

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-16 Thread james
really asking is/will the gentoo-ci be packaged up for the gentoo community to use, on a small set of packages? Is that idea too difficult at this time? Is there even a glep, or standard or part of PMS that will allow the gentoo-ci solution to become a routine tool for all to use? Alexander berna...@gentoo.org curiously, James

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-16 Thread james
On 06/16/2016 10:04 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 08:59:44 -0500 james wrote: On 06/16/2016 02:51 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 16/06/16 09:39, Daniel Campbell wrote: I guess what I mean is these outside developers could

Re: [gentoo-dev] why is the security team running around p.masking packages

2016-07-05 Thread james
hese codes, it just another mechanism to distinguish our distro, imho. So I would ask (beg if necessary) the kind folks that are the gentoo devs to figure out a way to archive those old codes, and document how to retrieve them, via github, as the attic too is probably like sunrise and such, headed towards deprecation and the chopping block. Thanks, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] why is the security team running around p.masking packages

2016-07-05 Thread james
t forward and consistent should others need to retrieve old ebuilds and source files. Thanks for the info and ideas. James

Re: [gentoo-dev] why is the security team running around p.masking packages

2016-07-05 Thread james
On 07/05/2016 01:17 PM, NP-Hardass wrote: On 07/05/2016 09:07 AM, james wrote: On 07/05/2016 06:25 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Bauman wrote: The subject of this particular mailing list post is a little alarming and over reactive. We are not running around

Re: [gentoo-dev] masking and removing *coin packages

2016-07-08 Thread james
erested in learning about ebuilds can ponder proxy-maintenance of a few packages as an opportunity? Surely there is a wider audience that will see some packages they like are going away because there are not enough maintainers, and thus respond by 'stepping up' to maintain a few packages? hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-08 Thread james
ent status via labeling of packages. For example, all of these issues could be added to a simple tool like app-portage/eix to show, for example security, age of last update and maintainer status, and any other issues deemed significant. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-08 Thread james
many currently selling products, just so you know. I like old codes, that is for sure, and the graying of codes does not mean they are useless. Far from it. ymmv. hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-09 Thread james
distinctions which are now being ignored. HTH & thanks as always to all of you for making Gentoo work since 2003. Likewise. I appreciated the devs and the gentoo distro, immensely. But, we need a well documented pathway from start to finish on the proxy-maint (regardless of what the deta

Re: [gentoo-dev] Signed push & clock drift rejection

2016-07-18 Thread james
net-misc/ntp a hard requirement ? I just use the default (gentoo) time servers, for now, but perhaps using specified servers in different regions might work too? hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Empty project: Desktop

2016-08-06 Thread james
DEs in a project together. +1 James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2016-08-07 Thread james
y with java, however they like (in a VM, or a container image or a stage-4). You have to look at CoreOS and conclude that even folks with deep expertise and deep pockets want an easy install (even roll-back) OS. hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2016-08-07 Thread james
On 08/07/2016 08:32 AM, Kent Fredric wrote: On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 08:24:51 -0500 james wrote: As a team, we could have a simple default program for a simple default disk format, and a variety of 'stage-4' images, maybe updated every 3 months, to get a gentoo system up, quickly. Not a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2016-08-07 Thread james
der. Some education providers may not touch Java at all, and focus predominantly on C. You can't satisfy everyone out of the box. I have no idea where James gets his information from, but I suspect it's a niche market where uni students do "clustering" - whatever that is.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2016-08-07 Thread james
On 08/07/2016 09:09 AM, Consus wrote: On 08:24 Sun 07 Aug, james wrote: On 08/07/2016 02:38 AM, Consus wrote: On 08:48 Sun 07 Aug, Michał Górny wrote: Sure we do. In the meantime, nobody uses gentoo anymore because it still can't deal with accepting contributions and in the meantime th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2016-08-07 Thread james
On 08/07/2016 09:47 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 9:24 AM, james wrote: As a team, we could have a simple default program for a simple default disk format, and a variety of 'stage-4' images, maybe updated every 3 months, to get a gentoo system up, quickly. Not an an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2016-08-07 Thread james
On 08/07/2016 11:21 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 12:24:37 -0500 james wrote: Let them use java* codes, as that is what all the universities are teaching and promoting. I agree with gentoo proper on severely restricting java*, on gentoo-proper, but that sort of thing is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2016-08-07 Thread james
On 08/07/2016 12:49 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 1:47 PM, james wrote: On 08/07/2016 09:47 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: Sounds great. What's stopping you? Why Rich, thanks for the triple compliments; is that a vote that the basic idea(s) have merit, or sarcasm? I&#

Re: Easy Installs / Stage 4 ( Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs )

2016-08-07 Thread james
re we aught to go. They're less "Limits", more "guides", often enough. On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 12:24:37 -0500 james wrote: Sure, I agree here, but, statistically these "hi level" languages are being taught, in lieu of C; and that is really sad. I'm sure

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2016-08-07 Thread james
On 08/07/2016 03:04 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 07/08/2016 19:36, james wrote: The interesting apps out there are mostly running python, go and (sometimes) lua. And that's what I observe in my day job - business/mobile ISP. Look at the job listing on stackoverflow and elsewhere (jav

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2016-08-07 Thread james
them after they are fixed, or with a mentor that knows more about java than I. (that's not difficult at all). BGO-510912 (Apache-Mesos) and BGO-523412 (Apache-Spark) Publicly or privately, you'd get much more than my gratitude... (seriously). I also use euscan frequently (just so you know). curiously, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2016-08-07 Thread james
On 08/07/2016 10:22 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 16:49:01 -0500 james wrote: After that feat is accomplished, then a similar deployment of a gentoo cluster on a those just installed gentoo minimal images, via a few keystrokes (I am flexible on the cluster codes that comprise

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] new eselect module: compiler

2016-08-09 Thread james
ost of those are still commercial, but, pressure over time could very likely see many of those compilers going the open source route, confounding the choice issue for a more open naming convention for gcc-config? hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Empty project: LXDE

2016-08-10 Thread james
m, when the time comes, with instructions on migration to lxqt or a listing of other light weight replacement options, with a wee bit of migration detail hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Empty project: LXDE

2016-08-10 Thread james
On 08/10/2016 09:44 AM, Nathan Zachary wrote: On 10/08/16 07:12, james wrote: On 08/10/2016 12:46 AM, Raymond Jennings wrote: Hey, just a heads up as a user. I'm currently using LXDE. On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 1:22 AM, Pacho Ramos mailto:pa...@gentoo.org>> wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Empty project: LXDE

2016-08-10 Thread james
On 08/10/2016 01:46 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mié, 10-08-2016 a las 07:12 -0500, james escribió: On 08/10/2016 12:46 AM, Raymond Jennings wrote: Hey, just a heads up as a user. I'm currently using LXDE. +_1 (correctly located). On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 1:22 AM, Pacho Ramos mail

Re: [gentoo-dev] Empty project: LXDE

2016-08-10 Thread james
On 08/10/2016 04:07 PM, Tom H wrote: On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 5:06 PM, james wrote: I have not had the time to migrate things to lxqt, despite tinkering around with it. The next system I install, will go direct to lxqt. I left KDE for many bloated reasons. I sure hope lxqt is light weight

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread james
On 08/10/2016 06:10 PM, James Le Cuirot wrote: Hello all, We, like almost everyone else and presumably upstream, install PCRE 8 as libpcre.so.1. Debian, for reasons best known to themselves, install it as libpcre.so.3. With Ubuntu still being the most widely accepted "standard" Lin

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread james
On 08/11/2016 11:32 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: Ühel kenal päeval, N, 11.08.2016 kell 11:23, kirjutas james: Whilst devs are discussing the future of Valve's offerings on gentoo, it'd be wise to consider the effects of "Vulcan" as it is FOSS where all video card vendors ca

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-12 Thread james
into WW3, if folks do not 'wise up' and 'pull together'. (also, I'm not hung up on 'Jentoo' as a name; perhaps 'Gintoo'? (peace && hth), James

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-12 Thread james
On 08/12/2016 10:39 AM, Kent Fredric wrote: On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 09:12:22 -0500 james wrote: (also, I'm not hung up on 'Jentoo' as a name; perhaps 'Gintoo'? (peace && hth), James Way outside the scope needed here. However we pull off Zhenchoo, its going to b

Re: #wg-stable: Reservations about a "STABLE" & "NeedsStable" bugzilla keywords (re: [gentoo-dev] New Working Group established to evaluate the stable tree)

2016-08-15 Thread james
lks to 'take ownership' which leads to better quality and increases in productivity, imho. The ability for other members of the gentoo community to read and learn, at their own pace:: *priceless*. ymmv, James

Re: #wg-stable: Reservations about a "STABLE" & "NeedsStable" bugzilla keywords (re: [gentoo-dev] New Working Group established to evaluate the stable tree)

2016-08-15 Thread james
Main_Page {arm32 and arm64 needs should be considered, where practical within BGO} Arm64 is already hitting Datacenters, around the globe; and is a very large point of excitement particularly related to Green and low-cost efforts. hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc using modprobe directly to load kernel modules

2016-08-17 Thread james
f complete stage-4 images for gentoo clusters, that are very use specific, highly tuned and minimized, including openrc, the base profile and old codes necessary for the work at hand, for the target hardware node. hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Developers, please work on underlinking issues!

2016-08-19 Thread james
for technical growth or the gentoo community? Access to there and other dev tools might be a powerful incentive, if packaged up attactively, for the gentoo user community to participate more in the less risky parts of gentoo development workflows? hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2016-08-19 Thread james
_Summer_of_Code/2016/Ideas/kernelconfig hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: LLVM

2016-08-19 Thread james
imho. Heterogeneous and open HPC is where is at, imho. If there is a forum where the community and pathscale folks discuss issues, point that out as I could not find one for deeper reading hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: LLVM

2016-08-19 Thread james
tons of money, but, things have changed and the change is accelerating, rapidly. Perhaps too much off those Cray patents that your company owns are leaking toxins into the brain-trust where you park? Vendor walk-back is sad, imho. ymmv. Best of luck to your company's 5-yea

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: LLVM

2016-08-19 Thread james
On 08/19/2016 05:05 PM, C Bergström wrote: On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 4:52 AM, james wrote: You removed your rude remark::: " Sorry to be the party crasher, but..." So let's put it back, just for clarity. Back to my own glass house.. It will take a few years, but I am tr

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Userkit.eclass

2016-11-30 Thread james
er dive:: BGO: 5932218 or these links:: https://github.com/coreos/coreos-baremetal https://coreos.com/blog/introducing-ignition.htm https://github.com/coreos/ignition/blob/master/doc/getting-started.md https://github.com/coreos/ignition/blob/master/doc/supported-platforms.md Thanks, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please retain authorship of contributed patches

2016-12-01 Thread james
irs of most CIO/CT0. But for the youthful devs, it would be very cool if a mechanism/system was deployed at Gentoo for those aspiring devs to enhance their resumes, kinda like a personally attributable changelog or such. Story telling comes with age and wisdom. knowing when to give the credit to another.. hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tinderboxing efforts in Gentoo

2016-12-03 Thread james
rested in gentoo clusters (expecially without systemd) and there are a myriad of gentoo dev needs that could be solve if there was a companion (gentoo-cluster) solution that was simultaneously support. (gentoo?) CLUSTERS are where it's at! So get hip, get real and get current. (this comes from an 'old_fart) hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tinderboxing efforts in Gentoo

2016-12-03 Thread james
wing the technical talent base of gentoo. hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tinderboxing efforts in Gentoo

2016-12-03 Thread james
On 12/03/2016 10:39 AM, james wrote: On 12/03/2016 09:33 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 12/03/2016 09:25 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: Then a stage-4 image could be made available so anyone can install gentoo cluster nodes quickly and a bit of ansible code to load the framework onto a

Re: [gentoo-dev] OT Who runs Gentoo was -> RFC: Userkit.eclass

2016-12-04 Thread james
ng software is robust, under active development and even the devs 'chime in' on routine basis. All in all, gnucash is an outstanding piece of FOSS software; much better than Quickbooks as many on the discussion lists attest to on a routine basis. It is in portage and it runs on wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tinderboxing efforts in Gentoo

2016-12-04 Thread james
have you read about 'tup'? http://gittup.org/tup/ I'm not sure you are interested in a streamlined build system, just for CI/tinderbox, but tup is as smart/fast as it gets. hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] (OT) Accounting systems: Ledger-CLI vs GNUcash

2016-12-04 Thread james
On 12/04/2016 05:55 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: (OT accounting systems) On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 01:10:16PM -0500, james wrote: GNUcash is superior to Quickbooks, as it is a 'double entry' accounting system. Last time I check Quickbooks was not 'double entry' and t

Re: [gentoo-dev] (OT) Accounting systems: Ledger-CLI vs GNUcash

2016-12-04 Thread james
ec 4, 2016 at 6:18 PM james wrote: Hello gnucash users. I use gnucash for my small business, for years and I'm quite happy with it. Recently, I was ask if Gnucash has as good of support for 501(c)3 non-profits as does ledger (www.ledger-cli.org)? Any and all comments

Re: [gentoo-dev] (OT) Accounting systems: Ledger-CLI vs GNUcash

2016-12-04 Thread james
ine and easy with GNUcash hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] (OT) Accounting systems: Ledger-CLI vs GNUcash

2016-12-05 Thread james
On 12/04/2016 10:10 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: On 05/12/16 03:06, james wrote: On 12/04/2016 06:49 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 11:07:59PM +, M. J. Everitt wrote: I gather both Quickbooks and Sage have a more modular approach to "proper" accounting software

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cross Post due to technical component - Thanks for all the fish

2016-12-06 Thread james
bastards'. P.S. Never give up on Gentoo, as that would be unwise, imho. Peace and Best of luck to you, Craig. James Cheers, Craig

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cross Post due to technical component - Thanks for all the fish

2016-12-06 Thread james
On 12/06/2016 07:29 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 01:13:12PM -0500, james wrote: A while back, we we were promised an email channel for gentoo-proxy folks that did not get on well with IRC. It never materialized, The mail alias proxy-ma...@gentoo.org (same alias as proxy

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cross Post due to technical component - Thanks for all the fish

2016-12-06 Thread james
On 12/06/2016 09:17 PM, Sam Jorna wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 08:59:11PM -0500, james wrote: On 12/06/2016 07:29 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 01:13:12PM -0500, james wrote: A while back, we we were promised an email channel for gentoo-proxy folks that did not get on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cross Post due to technical component - Thanks for all the fish

2016-12-06 Thread james
On 12/06/2016 09:09 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: James With the creation of the Mentors project (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Mentors) a bit of clarification has occurred to help prospective developers outside the IRC and/or proxy-maintainers project). Am I to understand that the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cross Post due to technical component - Thanks for all the fish

2016-12-06 Thread james
On 12/06/2016 09:20 PM, Sam Jorna wrote: On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 01:17:54PM +1100, Sam Jorna wrote: have a look at the new [0]Mentors project, or even send a mail to -dev I forgot the link, sorry: [0] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Mentors On this page, the string 'quiz' occurs (3)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cross Post due to technical component - Thanks for all the fish

2016-12-06 Thread james
On 12/06/2016 09:52 PM, Sam Jorna wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 09:44:12PM -0500, james wrote: On 12/06/2016 09:09 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: James With the creation of the Mentors project (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Mentors) a bit of clarification has occurred to help prospective

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Cross Post due to technical component - Thanks for all the fish

2016-12-07 Thread james
On 12/07/2016 02:44 AM, Duncan wrote: james posted on Tue, 06 Dec 2016 22:10:16 -0500 as excerpted: Really, for someone like me, it is just best to avoid irc. FWIW, some 12 years ago now, in 2004, I started using gentoo, with the intent of contributing and potentially eventually becoming a

[gentoo-dev] Gentooo 501(c) accounting

2016-12-07 Thread james
are warmly received. James The the most recent reply: > > [1] http://www.ledger-cli.org/ I regard cli accounting as a friend of GnuCash rather than the competition, there isn't anything one can do that the other can't in accounting terms, also not

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentooo 501(c) accounting

2016-12-07 Thread james
On 12/07/2016 01:31 PM, james wrote: Hello, There was some discussion before about the software used for gentoo the charity (501)(c). It seems to have perked up a bit of discussion on gnucash, where all of the posting I have read suggest that gnucash is a wonderful accounting system for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cross Post due to technical component - Thanks for all the fish

2016-12-07 Thread james
Gentoo developers. References: [gentoo-proxy-ma...@lists.gentoo.org] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-proxy-maint/ Thanks Robin. All good to know. Maybe these details and the other aforementioned details can be clarified and documented in the wiki, for the benefit of all to know. hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentooo 501(c) accounting

2016-12-07 Thread james
hat worked mostly like that is currently working. For me, as the interface (web based) is a huge plus over anything I looked at in the past. On Dec 7, 2016 10:32, "james" mailto:gar...@verizon.net>> wrote: Hey Jigme, I think gentoo is under a social contract limits our use o

Re: Thread moving to -nfp LIST [Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentooo 501(c) accounting]

2016-12-07 Thread james
folk, who are interested can read what is discussed via the list? I'm sure I'm not the only one interested in our goals and management infrastructures. James

Re: Thread moving to -nfp LIST [Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentooo 501(c) accounting]

2016-12-08 Thread james
On 12/07/2016 04:39 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 04:01:53PM -0500, james wrote: Can you cross post to gentoo-dev? I'm not subscribed to that list. Should not a wider community, particularly devs be part of the discussion? Please DO subscribe. Nope. I strongly be

[gentoo-dev] Re: Please stay on-topic.

2016-12-09 Thread james
On 12/08/2016 02:15 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Donnerstag, 8. Dezember 2016, 15:08:17 schrieb james: On 12/07/2016 04:39 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 04:01:53PM -0500, james wrote: Can you cross post to gentoo-dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please stay on-topic.

2016-12-09 Thread james
On 12/09/2016 03:58 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: On Friday, December 9, 2016 3:24:44 PM EST james wrote: On 12/08/2016 02:15 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Even if I'm repeating myself... Please keep the mailing lists on topic. Problems caused by gentoo developer behaviors, ar

Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling ebuild logging output in Portage (Was: gpg: signing failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device)

2016-12-14 Thread james
terpreting here, as there is only this fragmented thread in my inbox:: no prior postings. But perhaps folks should look at "app-portage/elogv" Already in place, easy to use, and should be updated with EAPI (5/6) based parsing features? hth, James IMO, emailing elogs to root sh

[gentoo-dev] Intel's Management Engine

2017-01-01 Thread james
been threads about coreboot and other related topics, even recently. At the least a wiki page itemizing known issues and possible workarounds, or is that appropriate for the gentoo-wiki? curiously, James [1] http://hackaday.com/blog/page/49/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intel's Management Engine

2017-01-01 Thread james
On 01/01/2017 04:12 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: On 01/01/17 21:01, james wrote: Is there a group of gentoo devs interested in the security aspects of internal, and often non-disclosed, hardware, as I cannot seem to find such a group, if it exists? Is there any interest in such a gentoo-dev

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-03 Thread james
betting that these old codes are much more useful than most have figured, but it's going to take some time to establish this performance and superior security postulate, as I use 'old-fart' methodologies. hth, James [1] http://unikernel.org/blog/2015/unikernels-meet-docker

Re: [gentoo-dev] bzipped manpages

2017-01-13 Thread james
ntire lifetime. The most prolific designer of them all, is simple referred to as 'doctor bitch' by her subordinates and friends. Some, more respectfully refer to her as the queen of assembler, as she has fixed thousands of compiler bugs from a myriad of compiler vendors, not for compensation, but because the bugs got in her way... hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] bzipped manpages

2017-01-17 Thread james
On 01/17/2017 01:05 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: On 01/13/2017 08:06 AM, james wrote: On 01/13/2017 02:45 AM, Sven Eden wrote: Btw.: Even "embedded experts" wholeheartedly agree that they disagree what "embedded" actually is. But I do think SoCs actually *do* qualify, at

Re: [gentoo-dev] bzipped manpages

2017-01-17 Thread james
rwise identical hardware can change rapidly. Lofty goals, yes, but since the subject of local documentation on embedded systems came up, naturally it is quite reasonable to seek the fastest possible diverse usage with the least footprint on resources. hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pre-GLEP for review: mix-in profiles

2017-01-23 Thread james
On 01/23/2017 04:23 AM, Michał Górny wrote: Hi, everyone. I've written a short proposal that aims to provide basic infrastructure for defining mix-in profiles in Gentoo. I've tried to keep it simple, and backwards compatible. The main goal is to be able to start defining some mix-ins without hav

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: Cron /usr/local/bin/pidlock -s rsync-gen /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/mastermirror/rsync-gen.sh

2017-01-27 Thread james
ot quite be ready for this level of promotion, but, I am anxiously awaiting that possibility. hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] REQUIRED_USE, global USE flags, user-friendliness...

2017-01-27 Thread james
atform, unique among distros, imho. Flag minimization and freedom is a core need shared by all forms of gentoo, imho. hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] REQUIRED_USE, global USE flags, user-friendliness...

2017-01-28 Thread james
On 01/28/2017 08:27 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 02:57:00PM -0500, james wrote Exactly:: simplify the flags, profiles and associated constructs down to the bare bones. Even embedded (arm/mips/etc) builds could benefit from a really minimized gentoo as a starting point

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving repoman checking, better idea (add arch.desc file)

2017-01-29 Thread james
rly gentoo-style unikernel types of clusters and how to cluster up a variety of gentoo-embedded systems, which are actually quite similar to unikernel based clusters. A state-diagram of just how all of these profiles are intertwined, would help to clarify the details and thus be keenly appreciate, when a final verdict is reached. hth, James

Re: [gentoo-dev] Requirements for UID/GID management

2017-01-29 Thread james
idea, as long as nothing is conflated by systemd. - --arw hth, James - -- A. Wilcox (awilfox) Project Lead, Adélie Linux http://adelielinux.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJYjiTOAAoJEMspy1GSK50UCgYP/j7zBRAiL6w7fACER+A+J/3x keXe4OsBzlNsUxq

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