Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-08-01 Thread Sergey Popov
02.08.2012 04:20, Walter Dnes wrote: > That's right... the poster was running a POSIX locale for several > years ***AND DID NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEMS RELATED TO IT***. This discussion is very similar with one, that i have seen in Russian Linux community some years ago about migrating from ru_RU.KOI

Re: [gentoo-dev] doheader function for EAPI 5?

2012-09-08 Thread Sergey Popov
31.08.2012 12:35, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > I'm somewhat interested. Here's the current code dev-lang/v8 uses to > install headers: > > insinto /usr > doins -r include || die > > Using e.g. "doheader include/*" is slightly prettier IMHO, but it's not > a big deal. I am also voting for su

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-emulation/qemu & app-emulation/qemu-kvm folding into one package

2012-09-13 Thread Sergey Popov
10.09.2012 05:55, Doug Goldstein wrote: > Hey all, > > Just an announcement that app-emulation/qemu-kvm will be pkgmove'd to > app-emulation/qemu at some point this week. The app-emulation/qemu > ebuilds will effectively die and be replaced by the > app-emulation/qemu-kvm ebuilds. I've brought this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due spatz retirement

2012-10-08 Thread Sergey Popov
07.10.2012 14:31, Pacho Ramos wrote: > app-text/lodgeit > media-plugins/gimp-resynthesizer > net-analyzer/namebench > x11-themes/pulse-glass > > Feel free to get them > > Thanks > > > netmon will take care of net-analyzer/namebench -- Best regards, Sergey Pop

[gentoo-dev] New desktop subproject: desktop-effects

2012-10-08 Thread Sergey Popov
w.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/effects/index.xml -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Desktop-effects project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: removing "server" profile variants from profiles.desc

2012-10-12 Thread Sergey Popov
11.10.2012 23:22, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 11 October 2012 14:56:11 Ben Kohler wrote: >> I would like to suggest that the "server" profile variants >> (ie default/linux/amd64/10.0/server) be unlisted from profiles.desc, so >> that they do not show up in "eselect profile list" for new use

Re: [gentoo-dev] esetshell in user.eclass

2012-10-22 Thread Sergey Popov
22.10.2012 01:20, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Anybody has a problem with adding an esetshell function to user.eclass ? > > I'd need it for munin... > I think that having such function would be nice signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] OUTAGE: {get,planet,packages,devmanual,infra-status,bouncer,}

2012-10-24 Thread Sergey Popov
20.10.2012 17:44, Alec Warner wrote: > p.g.o is fixed, but the dns TTL was set to half a day, so it will be > that long before users get the fixed experience. > > Now i am receiving such error while opening packages.gentoo.org: "Empty Page! If you expected a real website instead something must be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Merging the devrel handbook into the devmanual

2012-10-31 Thread Sergey Popov
ly :-)). I think recruiters would be also agreed with this point of view(at least hwoarang does :-D) -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Desktop-effects project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] ship app-arch/pbzip2 instead of app-arch/bzip2

2012-10-31 Thread Sergey Popov
t; Why not just make it an option to start, advertise it by all means, > and then see how it turns out with volunteers before we make it the > default. Going from nobody-has-heard-of-it to default overnight seems > a bit much. > +1 for that -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux D

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due beandog retirement

2012-12-02 Thread Sergey Popov
r-resume > sys-fs/mhddfs > x11-themes/gdm-themes > > Some of them are co-maintained but, if you want to take care of them, > feel free to add you to metadata > > Thanks I have picked up sys-fs/mhddfs some time ago -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Deskto

Re: Proxy maintainers in metadata.xml (was Re: [gentoo-dev] introduce a soft-limit policy for changing other developers ebuilds)

2012-12-04 Thread Sergey Popov
o metadata for proxying packages, cause i see such field in other packages' metadata. That is it. But it would be better when this became official policy. At least - define actual maintainer first, even if he is not developer - this would never confuse scripts for automated bug filing -- Bes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: new package category: net-vpn

2017-03-27 Thread Sergey Popov
VPN Thanks for moving vtun, though ;-) -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Quality Assurance project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reverse use of Python/Ruby versions

2017-04-25 Thread Sergey Popov
upport? It was like that before we switch to python-r1 and it was major PITA. Please, do not do this! -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Quality Assurance project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Future of Desktop-effects project

2017-07-12 Thread Sergey Popov
/proj/desktop-effects.git/ [2] - listed using 'portageq --no-filters --maintainer-email=desktop-effe...@gentoo.org -n' [3] - https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&list_id=3587404&namedcmd=desktop-effects -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Ef

Re: [gentoo-dev] taking a break from arches stabilization

2017-07-12 Thread Sergey Popov
27;s sad, i wish you will return to this - you are doing great job for all arches! I know how tedious this work could be - i was active arch team member some time ago(but not anymore :-(). -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Quality Assurance project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2017-07-17 Thread Sergey Popov
The following packages are up for grabs: app-text/yagf dev-util/bsdiff dev-util/skipfish games-fps/serious-sam-tfe games-fps/serious-sam-tse sys-process/procexp -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Quality Assurance project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2017-07-20 Thread Sergey Popov
x11-misc/simple-ccsm x11-plugins/compiz-plugins-extra x11-plugins/compiz-plugins-main x11-plugins/compiz-plugins-unsupported x11-themes/emerald-themes x11-wm/compiz x11-wm/compiz-fusion x11-wm/emerald [1] - https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625712 -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] AMD64 Arch Testers needed urgently

2017-12-19 Thread Sergey Popov
gentoo-chrootiez -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Quality Assurance project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Ban dolib and libopts in EAPI 7

2016-11-01 Thread Sergey Popov
ead. > > Comments? > > Ulrich > Fine by me. I can not remember right now if i ever used dolib instead of dolib.so or dolib.a(probably i did), but i do not see any caveats in your arguments. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop-effects project lead Gentoo Qual

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-misc/ttysnoop

2022-04-05 Thread Sergey Popov
# Sergey Popov (2022-04-05) # Upstream is dead long time ago # SRC_URI and HOMEPAGE are gone(bug #680362) # Has file collision with dev-util/bcc(bug #834093) # Suggested modern replacement is incorporated in dev-util/bcc # Removal in 30 days app-misc/ttysnoop

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2023-02-14 Thread Sergey Popov
open bugreports) -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer

[gentoo-dev] Obsolete package atoms in package.mask files

2012-12-09 Thread Sergey Popov
bug? [1] - https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444181 -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Desktop-effects project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Obsolete package atoms in package.mask files

2012-12-21 Thread Sergey Popov
10.12.2012 11:05, Sergey Popov пишет: > Some time ago, there was one bugreport[1] about obsolete mask entries in > package.mask files in diffirent profiles. Bug is assigned to QA team, > but only amd64 no-multilib profile was cleaned up, as i know. > > Maybe we should add ar

Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop the Perl Modules Guideline?

2012-12-25 Thread Sergey Popov
ebuilds. > Truly, i do not really understand such hard policy for NOT including perl modules in tree. I know that perl herd is understaffed, but i do not think that this is generally a problem, cause they do not maintain recently added packages, but proxy maintainers do. So, basically, yes, i vote for easing policy a bit. P.S. CCing maintainer of modules, that i have commited as a proxy, maybe he also wants to say something regarding this. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Desktop-effects project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed removal of service: torrents.gentoo.org

2012-12-26 Thread Sergey Popov
authenticity (we actually only need to sign the infohash value). Personally i have agreed with this point of view. Our own torrent service is unneeded anymore - we do not lose anything important if we use public trackers for this -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Desktop

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please guys use checkpath in init scripts

2013-01-07 Thread Sergey Popov
s manner from scripts in other packages. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Desktop-effects project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] January stabilization candidates

2013-01-15 Thread Sergey Popov
ibs/geoip-1.4.8-r2 Ok for it And thanks for your work. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Desktop-effects project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] removing the server profiles...

2013-01-15 Thread Sergey Popov
anything with this regard unless a clear consensus is found > here on the list. Otherwise I'll copy the dirs 1:1.] > > Cheers, A > > I remember, that hwoarang was strongly against removal of server profile. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Desktop-effects project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] revdep-rebuild bikeshedding

2013-01-17 Thread Sergey Popov
S or replace > EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS replace is better -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Desktop-effects project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] About dropping comm-fax herd

2013-01-20 Thread Sergey Popov
20.01.2013 13:10, Pacho Ramos wrote: > Only one package is inside it: > net-misc/capi4hylafax Personally, i think that keeping herd only for one package(if it's not god-damn-hard-to-maintain) is a bit overkill. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Desktop-effects p

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-21 Thread Sergey Popov
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Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer

2013-01-29 Thread Sergey Popov
ymouth ebuilds in tree, but they are outdated(see https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430478). -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Desktop-effects project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] "frozen" overlay Re: Please stop useless removals

2013-02-01 Thread Sergey Popov
proposition of splitted mirrors makes sense, cause quite often dead upstream means dead links to original tarballs too. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Desktop-effects project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

2013-02-04 Thread Sergey Popov
03.02.2013 16:46, Pacho Ramos wrote: > dev-libs/confuse I will pick up this one. I use it in one of my projects -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Desktop-effects project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Bugday

2013-02-28 Thread Sergey Popov
, if bug is assigned to project - to member of this project) - no, it's not good. Exception - maintainer-needed@ bugs. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Desktop-effects project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make inotify a global USE flag?

2013-03-21 Thread Sergey Popov
st - last statement is not correct, but, please, do not start this useless discussion about common sense in touching others' packages again. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Desktop-effects project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-text/cuneiform

2013-03-24 Thread Sergey Popov
n stop your from installing it from your local overlay. You can not rely on support through bugzilla from that moment, but if package was removed because lack of maintainership it does not matter, does not it? Main tree is not place for dead AND(not or, and!) not working packages. -- Best regard

Re: [gentoo-dev] Minor change in pkg-config behavior, starting with 0.28, late heads up for maintainers

2013-03-30 Thread Sergey Popov
discovered this behaviour change due to resolving bug #455984, where custom configure script was unaware of new pkgconfig. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Desktop-effects project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Expanding categories' descriptions

2013-04-02 Thread Sergey Popov
r that. I was really confused(tbh, i am confused even now) about x11-apps/x11-misc categories, for example. Sometimes it is really not clear where package should goes. Another example - app-admin/ansible. Some devs thinks that it should be sys-cluster/ansible, but i put it into app-admin/, relyi

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpng 1.6 upgrade and subslotting (and misuse of subslotting when there is also normal slotting)

2013-04-09 Thread Sergey Popov
06.04.2013 00:44, Samuli Suominen wrote: > $ grep -r 'media-libs/libpng' */*/*.ebuild |grep -v ':.*=' > output -> http://bpaste.net/show/89268/ Thanks. app-admin/logstalgia and x11-wm/compiz are fixed. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] alsaconf removal?

2013-04-11 Thread Sergey Popov
to edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa > directly if they need? > udev will autoload the modules just fine even without touching the whole > file for PCI, USB, ... devices > > all feedback appericiated > > - Samuli > Fine by me too. I saw it working last time two years ago, so i d

Re: [gentoo-dev] About src_test() in perl-modules

2013-04-22 Thread Sergey Popov
be closed on bugzilla) - it's just a workaround -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Desktop-effects project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] extending metadata.xml to support CPE information

2013-05-07 Thread Sergey Popov
g this be required or > anything (since not all packages will have one). > > thoughts ? Reasonable improvement, that can make tracking security issues more easily and automatically. +1 for that -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Desktop-effects project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Better handling of USE flags to enable/disable system libraries

2013-05-28 Thread Sergey Popov
d "use system jpeg" patch. If you uncomment it, quake3 will be built against system jpeg. It will build successfully, but textures will be a big mess of polygons. So, unfortunately, it's not even an option here, unless somebody will do a great work for splitting this library and write a huge patch, that will be totally rejected by upstream(so he will have to maintain this patch on his own). -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: PSA: python-r1.eclass, python-single-r1.eclass, and REQUIRED_USE

2013-05-30 Thread Sergey Popov
29.05.2013 18:51, Michael Palimaka пишет: > Would it be possible to add repoman checks for this, and other common > failures like missing PYTHON_USEDEP? +1 for repoman check on PYTHON_REQUIRED_USE and PYTHON_DEPS -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects projec

Re: [gentoo-dev] About lafilefixer removal

2013-06-06 Thread Sergey Popov
let for their .la file problem, which it's not > I have masked it. And by the way, i have discovered installed lafilefixer on one of my desktops(but not on servers), so yeah, probably i forgot to unmerge it a long time ago ;-) -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC how to handle disappearing USE in (portage) dependency calculation

2013-06-07 Thread Sergey Popov
t;udis86? ( dev-libs/udis86[pic(+)] )" > and the diff between udis86 ebuilds is like this: > -IUSE="pic test" > +IUSE="test" What's the question here? How to handle this? Read about USEDEP_DEFAULTS in PMS. If you see broken packages(somebody forgot to change d

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Moving project pages to wiki.gentoo.org

2013-06-10 Thread Sergey Popov
ages? Why we can not just have official project pages, maintained as usual through gorg and additional info in wiki(if it is needed, for example, like we do on Gentoo Qt project page? -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop-effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Moving project pages to wiki.gentoo.org

2013-06-11 Thread Sergey Popov
10.06.2013 19:15, Alex Legler пишет: > On 10.06.2013 14:36, Sergey Popov wrote: >> 09.06.2013 18:22, Alex Legler пишет: >>> I'd appreciate some input on below plan to move project pages to the Wiki: >>> >>> Motivation >>> -- >>> &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-06-16 Thread Sergey Popov
16.06.2013 13:49, Pacho Ramos пишет: > Due ferringb retirement the following packages are up for grabs:> > > dev-util/bsdiff I will take care of it... -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop-effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead signature.asc Descript

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last time touched bugs by year

2013-06-21 Thread Sergey Popov
can be resolved only in two ways: 1) package accepted into main tree, bug is closed as FIXED. If package sits in sunrise - it's not a solution and bug should not be closed; 2) package has dead upstream, does not build with current gcc/glibc/binutils/whatever and can not be fixed - bug is closed as OBSOLETE. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop-effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last time touched bugs by year

2013-06-21 Thread Sergey Popov
21.06.2013 23:22, Sergey Popov пишет: > 2) package has dead upstream, does not build with current > gcc/glibc/binutils/whatever and can not be fixed - bug is closed as > OBSOLETE. > Of course i am talking about long-standing bugs, that assigned to maintainer-wanted@. That's why

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-07-27 Thread Sergey Popov
available to users by default. As were said before, blindly stabling vanilla-sources when gentoo-sources is stabilized is not an option. "Remove the distinction between ~arch and arch" for any package is not apropriate, as stable keywords were made for a reason, period... -- Best regard

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-08-01 Thread Sergey Popov
letely broken for ages >>>> >>>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=439414 - lvm2 static+selinux fails >>>> >>>> So we are not talking about removing anything that works, but something >>>> users get hit by reading outdated guides

Re: [gentoo-dev] Global USE flag: git

2013-08-03 Thread Sergey Popov
git (version control system) support" > in use.desc. Heh, i thought this was already a global one. I am for it -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop-effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] systemd team consensus?

2013-08-11 Thread Sergey Popov
is not a source of getting list of project members :-) -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Sergey Popov
for example, qt-meta, leechcraft-meta). Well, as for leechcraft-meta, we can not simply replace metapackage with set, cause we have unstable USE-flag there. Any thoughts, leechcraft guys ;-)? -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Sergey Popov
14.08.2013 17:02, Michał Górny пишет: > Dnia 2013-08-14, o godz. 16:53:17 > Sergey Popov napisał(a): > >> 14.08.2013 16:05, Rich Freeman пишет: >>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Michael Palimaka >>> wrote: >>> Right now, however, >>> it mig

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-19 Thread Sergey Popov
reason, sorry for harsh words. But yeah, PMS is not ideal. We should improve it, thus i do not really understand how :-( -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signature.asc Description: O

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-08-19 Thread Sergey Popov
01.08.2013 21:50, Pacho Ramos пишет: > El jue, 01-08-2013 a las 14:05 +0400, Sergey Popov escribió: > [...] >> Some cluster things in lvm does not work in mine setup with shared >> builds. Only USE="static static-libs" is only working combination. >> Something

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer features in portage: cgroup, network-sandbox, ipc-sandbox

2013-08-20 Thread Sergey Popov
d require fancy kernel features. Great features, i will definitely try them! -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Staging 'einstalldocs' for EAPI 6

2013-08-20 Thread Sergey Popov
eadable to me > I am not for nor against this feature, but it would be nice to add support for directories in DOCS variable. Cause, overwriting install phase just to install directory with docs(instead of files) seems a bit odd for me. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Staging 'einstalldocs' for EAPI 6

2013-08-20 Thread Sergey Popov
my > directory has .svn/CVS in it?' > {ecvs,esvn}_clean FTGJ :-) -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] gtk2/gtk3 use flags

2013-08-20 Thread Sergey Popov
oolkits? I have dropped GTK2 support in gtkdiskfree[1], but it seems that proxied maintainer will quit if i keep things that way :-/ [1] - https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=463578 -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead G

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Sergey Popov
t some packages can be in such state, well, for years of active development. But it does not mean that some subset of users needs them. That's why - ~arch(or, if they are broken in some security-related things - hardmasked). -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Sergey Popov
this is no way to go. We should improve current situation with arches by some other ways(e.g., recruiting people). Maybe drop some damn-bad understaffed arches to unstable only(i do not point finger on anyone, they know, who they are... :-)) -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Des

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Sergey Popov
ation on it and(probably) GLSA. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Sergey Popov
sfully build and run kernel for a couple of hours, does not make it "good, well tested stable candidate" > > Bitrot due to a lack of resources. > Such problem is exists, yeah, i agree. But do not overcomplicate things. We should fight with lack of resources, not with tur

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Sergey Popov
ey are not severe. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Sergey Popov
21.08.2013 12:17, Tom Wijsman пишет: > On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:57:22 +0400 > Sergey Popov wrote: > >> 20.08.2013 23:42, Tom Wijsman пишет: >>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:29:09 -0400 >>> Wyatt Epp wrote: >>>> What manner of bitrot? >>> >&g

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Sergey Popov
es. And about recruiting, it is the only way we can keep moving with getting distro, which makes bigger and bigger all the time. I would have joined recruiters unless i knew how difficult job they are doing. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Sergey Popov
s > necessary and I don't see how it is "old, but also breakable"... > I undestand your disturbance as Gentoo Kernel team member. But your proposal does not seem good to me. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Sergey Popov
up-to-date packages ..." ~ Larry's happiness. :) > > http://www.gentoo.org/images/poster.jpg > And how that regards about stable, huh? If you want to raise problem that ~arch has too less version bumps, well, that's other topic(but with same reason - lack of manpower :-(). --

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Sergey Popov
ture > first before you describe it, because you are drawing assumptions here. > I do not see any dependant bugs in your current stable request, but you keep telling me about security, so i do not drawing any assumptions - it is not security stabilization in terms of Gentoo(probably it becomes so if you can find apropriate security flaws). -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Sergey Popov
t; then problem will go away. Both for security(that have a VAST amount of work, that i am saying as a rookie security developer :-)) and arch teams. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead si

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Sergey Popov
21.08.2013 13:13, Tom Wijsman пишет: > On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:32:35 +0400 > Sergey Popov wrote: > >> 21.08.2013 12:13, Tom Wijsman пишет: >>> Recruiting shows to be a hard task; so, the suggestions I am doing >>> are assuming that that doesn't work out. In

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Sergey Popov
21.08.2013 14:36, Tom Wijsman пишет: > On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:54:51 +0400 > Sergey Popov wrote: > >> 21.08.2013 13:13, Tom Wijsman пишет: >>> On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:32:35 +0400 >>> Sergey Popov wrote: >>> >>>> 21.08.2013 12:13, Tom Wijsm

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Sergey Popov
may confuse even ordinary developers. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-21 Thread Sergey Popov
of documentation" :S) > > And they are right at this point. How you can include something into standard, that is not documented? Documentation of how to use sets(for users) is not enough in this case, IMHO. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop-effects project lead Gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-21 Thread Sergey Popov
an not bring quality stabilization on those arches(as we have no hardware, no manpower, etc.) - they should go to unstable. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop-effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Staging 'einstalldocs' for EAPI 6

2013-08-21 Thread Sergey Popov
20.08.2013 17:22, Sergey Popov пишет: > 20.08.2013 17:02, Michał Górny пишет: >> Is there a future-eapi bug open for it? If not, please open one. > > I will, thanks Here it is: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481980 -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Sergey Popov
lose themselves. ;) > > Cheers, > Wyatt > > [0] Okay, maybe in the "glory days" when we were higher up on > Distrowatch and thing were really kicking. (I know, I know, "DW isn't > representative", but really? Sabayon is doing better than we are, > now?) > [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/amd64/tests/index.xml?part=1&chap=2 > [2] http://devmanual.gentoo.org/tools-reference/index.html > -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop-effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-21 Thread Sergey Popov
e talking about keywords > only, right ? Do these arches keep their stable mark in profiles.desc? > I like this way much more. Let's clarify stabilization policy for some minor arches, e.g. policy about stabilization requests for huge packages. Cause dropping entire arch to ~arch ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread Sergey Popov
pinkbyte@oas1 ~ $ ls /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords/ -1 | wc -l 19 At home this number is above 40, iirc. And i do not think that refusing bugreports from such systems is a proper way. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer features in portage: cgroup, network-sandbox, ipc-sandbox

2013-08-22 Thread Sergey Popov
lt/prefix/ -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] SDL2 update

2013-08-28 Thread Sergey Popov
; > >>> S=${WORKDIR}/SDL2_ttf-${PV} > >> I suggest quotes (""). > > > > Those are variable assignments and don't need a quote. > And if WORKDIR will contain whitespace(s), does this code still be working? :-) // sorry for bikesheddin

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-dialup/sendpage: sendpage-1.1.0-r2.ebuild ChangeLog sendpage-1.1.0-r1.ebuild

2013-09-03 Thread Sergey Popov
ser sendpage -1 -1 /var/spool/sendpage sms > } > > PATCHES=( "${FILESDIR}"/${PV}-makefile.patch ) > > src_install() { > perl-module_src_install > insinto /etc > doins sendpage.cf > newinitd "${FILESDIR}"/sendpage.initd sendp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improve the security of the default profile

2013-09-05 Thread Sergey Popov
i have some sort of bad expirience with it and uclibc[1]). Also kernel has apropriate option to enable it during build. However, i am not skilled with GCC internals, so i can say nothing about perfomance impact this flag may have. Maybe toolchain guys can bring light on this ;-) [1] - https://bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-dialup/sendpage: sendpage-1.1.0-r2.ebuild ChangeLog sendpage-1.1.0-r1.ebuild

2013-09-09 Thread Sergey Popov
04.09.2013 18:01, Ian Stakenvicius пишет: > On 04/09/13 01:28 AM, Sergey Popov wrote: >> 02.09.2013 19:29, Ian Delaney (idella4) пишет: >>> idella4 13/09/02 15:29:57 >>> >>> Modified: ChangeLog Added: >>> sendpage-1.1.0-r2.ebuild Remov

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: m68k, s390, and sh are dropping stable keywords

2013-09-24 Thread Sergey Popov
here dependency consistency is someway broken(Prefix) makes sense. Unless somebody wants to clean up some mess i have seen in Prefix deps by fulling package.use.mask in prefix profiles with tons of deps. Anyway, we have apropriate options in repoman for checking on dev and exp profiles, and, re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-25 Thread Sergey Popov
rop stable keywords. And if they are silent - dropping keywords with all revdeps by maintainer itself when other arches are done with stabilization. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-29 Thread Sergey Popov
aintainer should test this also when bringing new version to tree to prevent breakages. But stabilizing is different story and those who putting apropriate version to stable should be 100% sure that it would not break revdeps. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects pro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-10-15 Thread Sergey Popov
b, thanks. [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Proxy_Maintainers -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] media-sound/beets up for grabs

2013-10-15 Thread Sergey Popov
d up in black hole. Little clarification - i hope you mean "move to maintainer-needed@", cause maintainer-wanted is for new packages only ;-) -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signa

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-22 Thread Sergey Popov
20.10.2013 18:31, hasufell пишет: > Gamerlay is not related to the games team I am sorry, but it is games team not related to gamerlay. No offense, but gamerlay guys sometims just do their job. So, MAKE it related to Games team and fix stuff, considered broken. > gamerlay which is a project that

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-22 Thread Sergey Popov
;). > So, what's the problem about adding such reviewed repo(more specifically - a branch) to gamerlay except your personal negative attitude to whole project itself? -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-22 Thread Sergey Popov
very "mature" position to propose enhancement and then - hides, do not you think? Sorry if i am saying harsh words, just talking how it looks like from side view. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maint

Re: [gentoo-dev] OT: user-developer/privileges in IRC

2013-10-22 Thread Sergey Popov
rimarily and it is not so restricted, as you think. For example, #gentoo-infra is totally restricted to developers only, other interested parties should be added to channel ACLs explicitly or should get invite there. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects proj

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Scire project - plans?

2013-10-29 Thread Sergey Popov
interested parties [1] - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/scire/ [2] - https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68900 [3] - https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45816 -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers

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