Re: EAPI definition Was: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-19 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 03:31:14 +0100 > Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Before spending even more time on it, could we try to come up with a >> definition of what eapi is, which problem is trying to solve and put >> that somewhere

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Luca Barbato
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Here's some other ideas for how to express EAPI. What if we: If this idea of eapi is the best. I'm doubtful it is. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Luca Barbato
y? > >> So either choose the one that's accepted by the majority > > The majority of devs doesn't even read here (not to speak of active > participation). That says a lot in itself... lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Luca Barbato
ersioning per tree. This solves pretty much the root problems: "do not have the package manager break on tree update" and "have a way to update the package manager from an ancient setup w/out unpacking a newer stage on it (that could be yet another solution)" Feel free to flame

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Luca Barbato
blished it doesn't exist in the main tree... lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Luca Barbato
g a tag in the file name or at the to of the file as comment (maybe using a #! line) is the same ... We aren't on DOS we can use that nice tool called file and it's magic... lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:17:12 +0100 > Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Putting a tag in the file name or at the to of the file as comment >> (maybe using a #! line) is the same ... > > Three problems: > > * We have to wait a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Luca Barbato
documents that could help people getting an informed opinion, they would have to be referenced in the GLEP anyway. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Luca Barbato
e are against this glep and many are undecided I started polling around for alternatives... lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-21 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:24:26 +0100 > Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Since seems that enough people are against this glep and many are >> undecided I started polling around for alternatives... > > But there has yet to be a corr

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-21 Thread Luca Barbato
Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: > On Thursday 20 of December 2007 19:29:22 Zhang Le wrote: >> So please make those people understand, so they can comment usefully. > > Are we in the elementary school or something? This is really getting > ridiculous. > ietf.org Are they ridicu

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-21 Thread Luca Barbato
Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 17:22 +0100, Luca Barbato wrote: > >> I'm thinking about having them embedded in the comment as first line as >> something like >> >> #!/usr/bin/env emerge --eapi $foo > > OT: It actually works adding t

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-21 Thread Luca Barbato
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > On Friday 21 December 2007 03:41:04 Luca Barbato wrote: >>> * We have to wait a year before we can use it. >> We have to wait till we got a new release and I hope it isn't 12months. > > And then we have to wait till noone use a versio

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-22 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 04:24:06 +0100 > Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Not if we move the rsync path properly so >> >> - older pm sync to a minimal try apt to upgrading portage and nothing >> else >> >> - newer s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-23 Thread Luca Barbato
e path > b) no good because there isn't a sane way of forcing a package manager > upgrade and Say why? > c) another one of those "wait a year until we can use anything" things. Or spend 6 months discussing something that may or may not be accepted because lacks enough doc

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-23 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 04:19:45 +0100 > Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: >>> On Thursday 20 of December 2007 19:29:22 Zhang Le wrote: >>>> So please make those people understand, so they can c

Re: EAPI definition Was: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-27 Thread Luca Barbato
Marius Mauch wrote: > On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:10:13 +0100 > Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Ok, that seems a fine definition of what an eapi is. Everybody agrees on it? > > Nope. EAPI (from my POV) defines the API that a package manager has to export

[gentoo-dev] Random items I'd like to discuss

2007-12-29 Thread Luca Barbato
something. - tools to explicitly manipulate sets long time ideas: - support cross, multiarch, multilib in a saner and seamless way please comment =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Random items I'd like to discuss

2007-12-29 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:12:11 +0100 > Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Some items I have in wishlist >> >> - LRDEPEND link runtime dep (I need to link against that in order to >> run) >> - BDEPEND build dep (I need t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Random items I'd like to discuss

2007-12-29 Thread Luca Barbato
properly... bad users of tools are always present, by itself autotools gives support and usually works out of box. > Tree branching will very quickly become unmanageable. Users will be > forced to choose a branch, but useful features will be spread across > different branches. Only if y

Re: [gentoo-dev] Random items I'd like to discuss

2008-01-01 Thread Luca Barbato
Marius Mauch wrote: > On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:12:11 +0100 > Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> - tools to explicitly manipulate sets > > Elaborate. > > Marius add/remove/move packages to a set on merge command you can define additional sets in which

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC available for testing.

2008-01-03 Thread Luca Barbato
erhaps upstream have a list > where they can discuss it. OpenRC is an gentoo hosted project even if roy didn't feel to be a gentoo developer anymore, so this thread is In Topic and we'd rather discuss with him those details in order to keep baselayout one of the most interesting feature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-03 Thread Luca Barbato
pdate in a timely way you should ask and possibly get an account on an arch box in order to test it and bump if the minimal test pass" sounds fair? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-05 Thread Luca Barbato
e stable keyword for such arches. Anything other suggestions? lu PS: has anybody checked how viable is now qemu-system ? -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] has_version etc parallelisability

2008-01-05 Thread Luca Barbato
om that env isn't valid imo, either. > > Right. Paludis will give a weird die message but not actually fail if > you do: > > src_compile() { > { sleep 10 ; has_version '>=app-misc/foo-1.23' ; } & > } is & allowed in ebuilds? should? lu -- Luca Ba

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-05 Thread Luca Barbato
Ryan Hill wrote: >> PS: has anybody checked how viable is now qemu-system ? > > Does it build with GCC 4 yet? not yet... -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-06 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:19:10 +0100 > Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> PS: has anybody checked how viable is now qemu-system ? > > Testing on qemu isn't anything like testing on real hardware. It's not > a reliable or useful w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-06 Thread Luca Barbato
Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: > Might as well toss a coin or check the phase of the moon... Forgot those and dropping mips from the main repo as whole, yes. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Projects and subproject status

2008-01-07 Thread Luca Barbato
ow (mplayer, ffmpeg, xine, vlc...Hi Diego =)) and probably we'll have to handle some pretty new stuff related to heterogeneous cores (CELL, CUDA) if what is brewing right now gets more stable. We'll probably need more help from the toolchain people to get some stuff building sanely. lu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and subproject status

2008-01-09 Thread Luca Barbato
Petteri Räty wrote: > > - Get the remaining Generation 1 stuff out of the tree (not much left) > - Start using virtuals more > - Eclass cleanup and new make our setup even more automatic any plan/idea about icedtea? as a ppc user I'd love too see it in portage ^^; lu -- Lu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Item for 10 Jan 2008 Council meeting

2008-01-09 Thread Luca Barbato
the proctors, after all. Item already present I think. > I am asking a question as a member of the devrel confres subproject and as > an interested developer. you know the channel and the time ^^; lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Item for 10 Jan 2008 Council meeting

2008-01-09 Thread Luca Barbato
anned in the heat of some > discussions but this basically regulated itself by those kicked (by > simply re-joining) or others removing those bans rather sooner than later > if they were inappropriate. And that's perfectly fine and will remain the same hopefully =) lu --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-09 Thread Luca Barbato
could be present, but, as I said, usually you catch those breaking on gcc. So having some way to test if the package builds (cross toolchain) and if the package at least runs (qemu) IS something that should let small arches with large tree coverage improve a bit. Otherwise you can just reduce the t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and subproject status

2008-01-09 Thread Luca Barbato
Petteri Räty wrote: > Well having it open source doesn't mean automatically ppc support but > there are people working on it. I'm quite aware about it I followed the improvement on this side since a while even if I hadn't the time to try myself building it on ppc yet.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and subproject status

2008-01-09 Thread Luca Barbato
> Foundation to run, leaving us with one (or possibly two) trustees. I guess this part requires discussion elsewhere since there isn't much technical. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-emulation/qemu-user: ChangeLog qemu-user-0.9.1.ebuild

2008-01-27 Thread Luca Barbato
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Isn't this just einstall with maybe one change? > Probably =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to get more involved?

2008-02-01 Thread Luca Barbato
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/java/getting-involved.xml > Maybe could we get it moved on the top level? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google SOC 2008

2008-03-02 Thread Luca Barbato
taken into consideration. - crossbuild support for a gentoo compatible package manager (up to the student pick which) - eselect pm and emerge wrapper for alternate package managers. 2) We need mentors, so far confirmed I have: Diego and Saleem add me. -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/li

Re: [gentoo-dev] The eight digit limit

2008-03-04 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: PMS currently has the following: The package manager must not impose fixed limits upon the number of version components. No integer part of a version specification may contain more than eight digits. Package managers should indicate or reject any version that is invalid a

[gentoo-dev] [SoC] yet another proposal

2008-03-06 Thread Luca Barbato
thing for macosx? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenIB stuff in gentoo

2009-12-04 Thread Luca Barbato
ds could fit. > > [1] http://www.openfabrics.org > [2] http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/sci.git > -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Election for the Gentoo Council empty seat

2009-12-31 Thread Luca Barbato
ely need for either a better mail client and/or other ways to be more responsive. I think either Patrick or Tomáš could be a good asset for the council in my place. Hopefully in the mean time I'll focus on fixing what make me being slackered out of council and reply this late to your nominati

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps

2010-03-04 Thread Luca Barbato
probably instead), poppler-qt3, poppler-qt4 and > poppler-utils. If we could manage to convince poppler upstream that would be nice to actually provide bindings packages aside a core one... lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] RESTRICT=parallel for builds that can't be executed in parallel

2010-04-21 Thread Luca Barbato
emerge more reliable. I wonder if that case shouldn't be handled better with an huge ewarn so people concerned would really run it in a benchmark environment, alone. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] RESTRICT=parallel for builds that can't be executed in parallel

2010-04-21 Thread Luca Barbato
/out calling eselect opengl that way first. The discussion about how to handle two parallel merge in a safer way seems interesting though. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] [git migration] The problem of ChangeLog generation

2010-06-24 Thread Luca Barbato
resolve this issue in case ChangeLog's > will be generated from git log and until somebody suggests how to edit > ChangeLogs generated from git I think have to keep ChangeLogs in > gentoo-x86. > We could abuse git-note -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global use flag: vpx or vp8

2010-08-03 Thread Luca Barbato
s more intuitive for people. Also, > nteresting question would be whether to enable the flag by default an in > which profiles (desktop?). vpx -> you use libvpx vp8 -> you want vp8 as for decoding ffmpeg is already a provider so application using it won't need additional useflag IMHO lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] nsbrowser plugins

2010-08-11 Thread Luca Barbato
it isn't that hard even if IMHO it should be declared by env var. lu PS: what about the user defined plugin dir (yes, it does exist)? -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of releng project

2010-08-12 Thread Luca Barbato
On 08/12/2010 08:23 PM, Thilo Bangert wrote: > its a small and neat piece of code. for anybody looking at deploying Why isn't already an official project ^^? It looks quite what we need =P lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium in Gentoo project looking for developers

2010-08-17 Thread Luca Barbato
> system libraries (I'm working on icu and sqlite). This will require even > more testing on Gentoo side, because using system libraries is a > scenario that upstream's QA _never_ tests. I see... lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] GLes and OpenVG related management

2010-08-22 Thread Luca Barbato
he qt team about it. I'd like to have a gles and an openvg useflag defined to: gles - prefer using egl+opengles instead of glx+opengl openvg - enable openvg support Comments? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New eclass: scons.eclass

2010-08-22 Thread Luca Barbato
> Attaching both the new rev and a diff against the first one. What about having a SCONSOPTS and leave MAKEOPTS unmangled? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-08-23 Thread Luca Barbato
e for all our use-cases, not as stable as openrc nowadays, not as fast as suggested and for server usage plainly wrong. I'd put openrc on freedesktop btw. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-08-24 Thread Luca Barbato
On 08/23/2010 11:07 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday, August 23, 2010 16:21:44 Luca Barbato wrote: >> I'd put openrc on freedesktop btw. > > we've sort of already settled into the places ... jumping to another place > doesnt gain us much. current infrastructure

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of releng project

2010-08-26 Thread Luca Barbato
e great ^^ lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc stabilization update

2010-09-20 Thread Luca Barbato
working with iproute2 or any other tool > that i already know the syntax of. no need to learn ridiculously > convoluted array syntax foo for /etc/init.d/net.eth*. if you are using /etc/ifup.eth* what would prevent having oldnet run those as the newnet do? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux htt

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: .la files removal news item (GLEP 42)

2010-10-02 Thread Luca Barbato
d in a way I can understand so that I can address them? During the past discussions you were somehow overly conservative, taking issue of corner cases and overall on the aggressive stance. I know that you had a rough week but others do as well, Diego among them. lu -- Luca Barbato G

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: .la files removal news item (GLEP 42)

2010-10-03 Thread Luca Barbato
#x27;t an earth shattering change like a nonfunctional libc in the stable tree or a broken version of coreutils, please keep a bit of perspective. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] .la files and their future on Gentoo

2010-10-03 Thread Luca Barbato
ed" by checking whether anything currently in the tree needs it, but this doesn't take into account anything that /isn't/ in the tree yet. I think the simpler solution is that if it needs .la, before reaching the tree it has to be fixed... lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] .la files and their future on Gentoo

2010-10-03 Thread Luca Barbato
On 10/04/2010 12:00 AM, Rémi Cardona wrote: Using libltdl (libtool's dlopen wrapper) is a*legitimate* use of .la files. Those programs do not need to be fixed as they are not broken. To my knowledge ltdl would load just fine the .so if the .la isn't found. lu -- Luca Barbato Ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] .la files and their future on Gentoo

2010-10-03 Thread Luca Barbato
packages. Well I consider the .la sort of legacy byproduct of libtool and not something useful, probably in the future I'll send a patch to have the .la put as last item in search order for both libtool and libltdl to make it a non issue for everybody =P lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: .la files and their future on Gentoo

2010-10-05 Thread Luca Barbato
On 10/5/10 9:52 AM, Angelo Arrifano wrote: By removing .la files, you are taking away that choice from the user. For you they might be useless, for some user (or entire software house) it can be its holly grail for library versioning and linking. I don't really feel like forcing users to change

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: .la files and their future on Gentoo

2010-10-05 Thread Luca Barbato
On 10/5/10 4:33 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:49:43 +0200 Luca Barbato wrote: Bluntly put, you seem to not know how libtool exactly works and further down in the thread how linking exactly works. Please try to learn the fine Gentoo docs on the subject and feel free to ask

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: .la files and their future on Gentoo

2010-10-06 Thread Luca Barbato
std_shrext .so .a .la; do # Search the libtool library lib="$searchdir/lib${name}${search_ext}" if test -f "$lib"; then lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] virtual/openvg virtual/gles virtual/egl

2010-11-07 Thread Luca Barbato
: I'm checking what happens with the xcb move since it should be compatible but it could not. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl, sed and non-gsed

2005-04-07 Thread Luca Barbato
Stroller wrote: > Do you actually use OS X? When I'm forced by a friend asking for a particular package yes. > > This is not a case of sed being broken on BSD / OS X - on a Mac > everything works fine out of the box, and users can use standard tools, gcc is non standard and broken, ld is non stand

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl, sed and non-gsed

2005-04-07 Thread Luca Barbato
Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò wrote: > On Thursday 07 April 2005 17:17, Luca Barbato wrote: > >>gcc is non standard and broken, ld is non standard. vim is non standard. > > Actually, pure gcc on OSX is broken. Just try to build yourself a vanilla gcc > and try it

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl, sed and non-gsed

2005-04-07 Thread Luca Barbato
Lina Pezzella wrote: > > And if you want to you can replace them (see the progressive profile). > At your own risk of course. Personally, I run vim7 from portage. The > problem is that we simply cannot guarantee that Apple will play nice > with us stomping on their core system tools, therefore the

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer Truedfx

2005-04-12 Thread Luca Barbato
e truedfx or Harald but not expect me to write your full name correctly =) Have a lot of fun. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Manager http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] (media-video) ffmpeg and a52dec

2005-04-19 Thread Luca Barbato
gt; ffmpeg has many other arches to consider so it's something which needs > careful attentions. > I'll take care about ppc related stuff. What about the other arches? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Manager http://dev.gentoo.org/~l

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Dev: Diego Pettenò (Flameeyes)

2005-04-19 Thread Luca Barbato
Jochen Maes wrote: > please welcome him to the team! Late welcome, I know... Thank you for being part of the media borg.. er team. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Manager http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unofficial Development Guide

2005-05-02 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > ... also known in its former lives as the "Bash Guide" and "The Doc". I read few pages and I think quite are nice, good job. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Manager http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero --

Re: [gentoo-dev] encode useflag

2005-05-13 Thread Luca Barbato
Gregorio Guidi wrote: > > ...toolame doesn't seem to do mp3s, so it doesn't overlap with lame. > (and btw it seems a dead project since two years, who would want it ;) > looks like there is yet another fork called twolame[1] that is mantained. lu [1]http://twolame.sf.n

[gentoo-dev] [RIP] Last rites for cinelerra.

2005-05-29 Thread Luca Barbato
I'm about to remove the cinelerra ebuilds and just put a placeholder ebuild that just points to cinelerra-cvs. If somebody is against that please tell me. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Manager http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] where goes Gentoo?

2005-06-07 Thread Luca Barbato
Aron Griffis wrote: > But the truth is that Gentoo sees > improvement and maintenance in the areas that appeal to the > developers. And that is why Gentoo exists for the developers first, > the users second. Amen lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC

Re: [gentoo-dev] ekeyword and ordering

2005-06-07 Thread Luca Barbato
Stephen P. Becker wrote: > alpha++ alpha++ -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo metastructure reform poll is open

2005-06-08 Thread Luca Barbato
Jim Northrup wrote: > might I suggest not kicking #gentoo-dev visitors who ask for voice to > speak to the devs without a 'rtfm & go get a gentoo job' smokescreen ? Sorry? Usually if the request for voice is polite enough won't be a problem. Voiced/avoiced people usually are known by developers for

Re: [gentoo-dev] a #g-d first impression might represent process and metastructure

2005-06-09 Thread Luca Barbato
lish favorable dialogues by filing a > bug, the door starts out closed. One of the common way to became developer is receive an offer and being sponsored and mentored by someone that already knows you. If you are supposed to work with other people you should like them, isn't it?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-15 Thread Luca Barbato
rude, we are all volunteers and we are people with a life (hopefully), we like to help and improve, but not push us. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussion: alternative compatible utilities

2005-06-16 Thread Luca Barbato
so painful, would worth testing it. Obviously having it now isn't really needed. Thinking about that when committing/updating ebuild would be good. ( still I do hate bsd core utils implementations but that is just my opinion =) ) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PP

Re: [gentoo-dev] linux-2.6.12

2005-06-18 Thread Luca Barbato
h the problem in the g-s ^^ Given reiserfs4 is around for enough time and lots of brave users tested it, it MAY be not so unstable. (still I like jfs and xfs more, and I use them just for transient data (large video and image processing tests and so on)) -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] lcars gets his commit bit

2005-06-24 Thread Luca Barbato
, so please feel free to start shoveling bugs > his way! *Grin* Yai! Andrea good luck with the ancient beast (sendmail)! lu PS: For being a conspirancy we should start meet each other for a beer or wine =) -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://de

Re: [gentoo-dev] ATI Radeon Xpress 200 Drivers

2005-06-25 Thread Luca Barbato
t; Check the portage. Those drivers are available BUT p.masked since I can't test them. I hope they will be integrated in the main driver soon so I didn't add it as separate driver. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: new category media-vdr

2005-06-26 Thread Luca Barbato
gory media-vdr for vdr, > its plugins and other related packages. > media-tv can host the core component media-plugins and x11-themes the rest. see mythtv lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] ATI Radeon Xpress 200 Drivers

2005-06-27 Thread Luca Barbato
iver. If it works as should that means that I repackaged it correctly and requires no other patching... lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild design issue regarding some {I need the lib and api only}-DEPENDs

2005-08-18 Thread Luca Barbato
ar setup and in the case the constraint changes won't be a problem rebuild a full mysql. The question is, does the mysql configure script have a "clientonly" and/or a "libraryonly" option? There were a client and server useflag discussion before. lu -- Luca Barbato Ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla handling for maintainer-wanted things

2005-08-18 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Can anyone suggest > a name? Best I can come up with is STYLE_CHECKED(nickname)... > I like the idea. SYNTAX_CHECKED(nick) maybe? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Bugzilla handling for maintainer-wanted things

2005-08-20 Thread Luca Barbato
27;s current state the bug wont be fixed. > Its just not a logical argument. Given every dev is complaining about how long is getting this thread and how pointless is. PLEASE AVOID REFRAINING SUCH NONSENSE point taken, working on it, don't impair our productivity more than that. th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Bugzilla handling for maintainer-wanted things

2005-08-20 Thread Luca Barbato
Nathan L. Adams wrote: [lenghty email snipped] Since a ml isn't a place for interactive discussion, could you please user our irc channel or jabber im? Thank you lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Bugzilla handling for maintainer-wanted things

2005-08-21 Thread Luca Barbato
to help me with what the 'best practices' are for ebuilds. Its a 'you > help me and we'll both help Gentoo' situation. > See above, you can just pass on IRC to contact us directly btw. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-libs/lzo-2 help

2005-09-12 Thread Luca Barbato
2 installed ofcourse). > > i'll keep testing other programs > I wonder why those patches weren't pushed upstream most times... Sigh -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 41: Making Arch Testers official Gentoo Staff

2005-09-13 Thread Luca Barbato
Simon Stelling wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:51:38 -0500 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | define exactly how one proves themself, and in what context. Repeated good contributions. Just to clarify: We're not going around giving everybody AT-status who just a

Re: [gentoo-dev] vim spell files

2005-09-23 Thread Luca Barbato
cter set decisions? > As usual I'm afraid... > * Does anyone think we should make users build spell lists from source, > even though it can require several GBytes of RAM? Only if requested by user (think about an useflag) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-09-28 Thread Luca Barbato
Chris Gianelloni wrote: Agreed. It should be syslog-ng. If nobody objects, I'll change it in base/virtuals. I'd keep metalog as default OR fix the syslog-ng default configuration. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.

[gentoo-dev] last rites for avifile, vcr, zphoto, drip, divx4linux, quicktime4linux

2005-10-15 Thread Luca Barbato
ively developed one) but looks like it could be replaced. expected phase out time: 25 days. If you are against that please speak now. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites for avifile, vcr, zphoto, drip, divx4linux, quicktime4linux

2005-10-15 Thread Luca Barbato
James Cloos wrote: "Luca" == Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Luca> avifile: superseded by ffmpeg, xine and ... mlt. Do they offer all of the cli tools that avifile does? If you are referring to avicap I think that there are other capture tools in portage (me

Re: Fwd: [gentoo-dev] Thesis on open source

2005-10-16 Thread Luca Barbato
fetch the document he/she likes. Please avoid sending large proprietary attachment on mailing lists. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites for avifile, vcr, zphoto, drip, divx4linux, quicktime4linux

2005-10-16 Thread Luca Barbato
Marc Hildebrand wrote: Ooops. Is someone working on mlt too? I have some working ebuilds somewhere but I'm *very* busy atm so I can't test it. (And there are other packags that have a high priority too. Got interested bug got overbusy too =/ lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux

Re: [gentoo-dev] modular X - 7.0 RC1

2005-10-20 Thread Luca Barbato
'emerge xorg-x11 kde' would result in an unusable system without any fonts at all... a useflag could solve the issue as well a all inclusive metaebuild for X. -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: CHTEKK

2005-10-24 Thread Luca Barbato
Mike Doty wrote: I like fantasy books & stuff, as well as science-fiction and animes, I generally read a lot. Welcome! Have a lot of fun and beware of weredevs, they could byte you =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo

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