Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation

2005-11-22 Thread Dale
o give some devs some time to work on others things as well? Getting a sync past 50% with slowing to a crawl would be nice. Plenty of people complaining about that. Don't beat me to much OK. Be gentle. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-22 Thread Dale
m not a big complainer, it looks fine to me. As long as I can read it, I don't care about colors and all that other fancy crap. Just don't use black text on a black background. :\ Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stepping aside...

2005-12-23 Thread Dale
ren't leaving us though! Roy Ditto, big time. Docs are great with Gentoo. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unified nVidia Driver Ebuild ready for testing

2005-12-24 Thread Dale
ls. I really don't have any use for the settings package, as long as my GUI works anyway. Just give us some options. We'll be happy then. Dale :-) Now to shut my mouth on the dev list. My foot doesn't fit very well. O_O -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Unified nVidia Driver Ebuild ready for testing

2005-12-24 Thread Dale
Peter wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 03:16:53 -0600, Dale wrote: Niklas Bolander wrote: snip... I have to agree. Do it sort of like KDE, with kde, kde-meta or as seperate packages. Have it so you can pull in all three in one emerge command but have the option to do it seperately

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unified nVidia Driver Ebuild ready for testing

2005-12-24 Thread Dale
something someone agrees with me on, on the dev list no less. WOW < falls out of chair, hits head and dies > Later Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB har

Re: [gentoo-dev] mac/xmms-mac licence issue

2005-12-24 Thread Dale
nse worked out so it is legal. I'm sure then the Gentoo people will jump on board and put it in portage for you. Basically, what you are asking them to do is wrong. I'm not speaking for them but don't hold your breath hoping they will help you break the law OK. My $.02 worth

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stupid USE defaults that need cleaning

2005-12-25 Thread Dale
to put -gnome in mine. I have a lot of gnome stuff installed and had no clue I needed -gnome until I read this. Just my $.02 worth, which ain't much. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stupid USE defaults that need cleaning

2005-12-26 Thread Dale
Oh, answer to the questions would be nice too. :-) Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256M

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml (GLEP 46)

2005-12-26 Thread Dale
g any packages just the sync. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB driv

Re: [gentoo-dev] A New Linux Way

2006-01-09 Thread Dale
how to get the stupid thing. Of course, I wouldn't any way. I like Gentoo. :D What is this "subscription" you have to get to use it? Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ra

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-26 Thread Dale
that if you chose to do a stage 1 install you were on your own. That was my understanding. If that is true, he is getting support for something that is not supported, right? I'm shutting my non-dev mouth now. I got to go see my lady. ;-) Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most ce

Re: [gentoo-dev] FHS compliant KDE install and multi-version support

2008-09-07 Thread Dale
r it be like it is so that we can still choose. I will most likely maintain both KDE 3 and KDE 4 until things get sorted out and I make sure everything works. Nothing worse than upgrading, realizing that the new version isn't ready for my needs yet and having to recompile KDE all over again. Having both would be really nice. My $0.02 worth. Dale :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] FHS compliant KDE install and multi-version support

2008-09-07 Thread Dale
Marcus D. Hanwell wrote: Dale wrote: Philip Webb wrote: 080907 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: ignoring FHS ... are not valid solutions to this problem. Why ? Who is demanding FHS compliance & for what reasons ? Gentoo is not like other distros & sometimes needs to find

Re: [gentoo-dev] FHS compliant KDE install and multi-version support

2008-09-07 Thread Dale
Marcus D. Hanwell wrote: Dale wrote: Marcus D. Hanwell wrote: Dale wrote: Philip Webb wrote: 080907 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: ignoring FHS ... are not valid solutions to this problem. Why ? Who is demanding FHS compliance & for what reasons ? Gentoo is not like o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: News item: World file handling changes in Portage-2.2

2008-09-10 Thread Dale
except during a emerge. Thing is, emerge -uvDN world will do the same as it always has from my understanding. My $0.02 worth. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Saving package emerge output (einfo, elog, ewarn, etc.) somewhere official

2008-11-30 Thread Dale
s that have been installed. Sort of a short and sweet notice there is something there without actually have to look. Maybe a red flag when there is something really serious to know and other colors for other things. Anyway, give that a look and see if that helps, if you have a GUI. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anouncement: Updated kde4 eclasses in the tree.

2009-01-12 Thread Dale
d. Your message appears as part of a thread of the subject: "Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2009-01-11 23h59 UTC" That could mean some won't see your post. I almost didn't myself. I was curious since no one replies to that automated thing. Who would answer if they did? :/ Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anouncement: Updated kde4 eclasses in the tree.

2009-01-12 Thread Dale
Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > Well that is the problem, I didnt hit reply but new message button :D > (i guess kmail4.2 is doing something fancy :D) > > Tomas > Yep, time to search the configure section. Something "windoze like" going on in there. lol Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] QEMU Sick!

2009-01-21 Thread Dale
filthy rich. I would send all the devs a new rig to play with. Maybe even the MIPS folks too. LOL Just wishing tho. I'm not even sure what a MIPS is tho I suspect they are old. Dale :-) :-) < Dale goes back to his hole now >

Re: [gentoo-dev] QEMU Sick!

2009-01-22 Thread Dale
Mateusz Mierzwinski (me.matheos.org) wrote: > Dale pisze: > >> Norberto Bensa wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Mateusz Mierzwinski (me.matheos.org) >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Now I'm pissed o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Devaway for me, for a whole year period(military service)

2009-02-08 Thread Dale
session running irssi, on a remote machine, so > you will see me online, but I'll be far away, probably :( > > Well, I'm a American but military is military. Be safe and come back in one HEALTHY piece!! Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-19 Thread Dale
um because Gentoo already has its own forum. Why should Gentoo have two forums? I must also say the the Gentoo forum is more than adequate for help. Also, the link to your thread does not exist. I get "The topic or post you requested does not exist". Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-19 Thread Dale
Roy Bamford wrote: > On 2009.05.19 20:52, Dale wrote: > [snip] > > From my understanding, LQ doesn't have a Gentoo subforum because > > Gentoo > > already has its own forum. Why should Gentoo have two forums? I > > must > > also say the the Gentoo forum i

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-19 Thread Dale
Jesús Guerrero wrote: > On Wed, May 20, 2009 00:37, Dale wrote: > >> That would be the point. Gentoo has its own forum so why have two >> forums? What would be the point in having two places to go look for >> answers? Better yet, why would Gentoo support both foru

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-19 Thread Dale
ts not even linked for anyone else >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Check now, I've moved it on request. > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-762914.html > > I still get this: "The topic or post you requested does not exist". I am logged in. Oh well. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Dale
Nandeep Mali wrote: > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Dale wrote: > [...] > >> I'm a member at LQ tho I haven't been there in a long while. I just >> don't see why there has to be two forums when the one forum we have is >> more than enough. If som

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Dale
Jesús Guerrero wrote: > On Wed, May 20, 2009 05:33, Dale wrote: > >> Jesús Guerrero wrote: >> >> I don't see how doing double the work will benefit anyone. Its a lot >> easier to have one forum than it is to have two forums. I just think the >> Gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Dale
Alistair Bush wrote: > Dale wrote: > > >>> The Gentoo subforum on LQ would help to collect the posts in one place. >>> >>> >> That would be the point. Gentoo has its own forum so why have two >> forums? What would be the point in having t

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: Accessibility on our release media

2009-05-23 Thread Dale
nis have ~200MB). > - Regarding download size, well, after the CD you'll have to get the > stage tarball and most probably source tarballs as well. > > -- > Thomas Pani > > > For a person on dial-up, about 2 1/2 hours of additional download. That said, I'd be OK with the increase in size if it would help a person who can't see the screen. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: Accessibility on our release media

2009-05-23 Thread Dale
guess, resumable? I do think this is a good idea even if it is a separate CD to download. Also something to remember when making the stage tarballs I guess. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: Accessibility on our release media

2009-05-23 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: > On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 07:32:18PM -0500, Dale wrote: > >> > > For a person on dial-up, about 2 1/2 hours of additional download. That > > said, I'd be OK with the increase in size if it would help a person who > > can't see

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: Accessibility on our release media

2009-05-23 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: > On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 08:12:17PM -0500, Dale wrote: > > Ferris McCormick wrote: > >> If the 20MB is a real problem, I think the alternative is to have two > >> versions of the "minimal CD". Otherwise it seems to me that Gentoo is &

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: Accessibility on our release media

2009-05-24 Thread Dale
is not trivial to me but I still think it is worth having the software on the CD for people that can't see the screen. I'm evening thinking a person could install Gentoo with no monitor. Like maybe a server or something. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-25 Thread Dale
age 1353 Feb 23 04:49 dk-kde -rw-r--r-- 1 root portage 6453 Apr 22 19:04 dk-kde-full -rw-r--r-- 1 root portage 6795 Apr 17 21:59 rebuild r...@smoker / # I already have a couple of those in use with Portage 2.2_rc33. If you are talking about something else, please ignore. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Illegal news item name

2009-06-20 Thread Dale
will ensure that the incorrectly named new item is > deleted on the rsync side after it's removed from cvs. As a lowly user, I would rather see it twice than to not see it at all. Although the argument could be made that java is not a critical package. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please use "eselect news" items!

2009-06-26 Thread Dale
the number instead of typing the LONG name for the item? Sort of like gcc-config -l does its listing and you can set with the appropriate number. This would save time and some typing and seems like something that would be fairly easy to do. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please use "eselect news" items!

2009-06-27 Thread Dale
Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, Dale wrote: >>>>>> > > >> I would like to see what you guys think about a small feature. Is >> there a way to put a number next to each item and then we can select >> by t

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Dale
ol, never count on common sense. Elected people rarely have any. If they do during the election, it disappears after taking their position. I think the vast majority of people here have seen that over the years. My $0.02 worth. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Dale
Duncan wrote: > Dale posted 4a47f8e3.8070...@gmail.com, excerpted > below, on Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:12:35 -0500: > > >> As a long time Gentoo user, I have to ask. Why is that EVERYONE on the >> council must be there or have someone there to represent them? Would >&g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: newsitem: unmasking udev-181

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
; upgrade udev. This situation is a heck of a lot easier to figure out > if the system still can be booted when the initramfs doesn't work. > > Rich > > +1 Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-28 Thread Dale
to install just to look and then have a separate manual, wiki even, for more serious set ups. This can include things like RAID, LVM and having more than a couple partitions. Of course, Gentoo is almost endless in options. Back to my hole. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-28 Thread Dale
in /var are in the same boat. A user could use a file system that is better at this sort of thing and have only one partition to handle it all. Back to my hole. Twice now. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-28 Thread Dale
Duncan wrote: > Dale posted on Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:35:40 -0500 as excerpted: > >> Joshua Saddler wrote: > Agreed, tho ACTUALLY having the documentation available, AND LINKING to > it in the handbook ("For an in-depth discussion, read..."), would be a > good thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-28 Thread Dale
e portage tree partition, and > occasionally accidentally do an emerge without it mounted. > Having portage decide that it should automatically start downloading a > new tree directly onto the filesystem containing the mountpoint is *NOT* > ideal! > +1 Dale :-) :-) -- I am only

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-04 Thread Dale
ppiness is set to 20. In other words, only use swap when it is getting deep. It was using half my swap so it must have been pretty deep. So, even dbus can have a bad day at times. Sure wish I knew what caused it tho. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: remove ldap from desktop profiles use flags

2012-05-05 Thread Dale
dropping ldap from the desktop profiles. > > I don't like this change much. There are valid use cases for an ldap use > flag in the desktop profile that could break easily with this change. > > Also, you could make the same case for adding -ldap to your make.conf Not to mention,

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: remove ldap from desktop profiles use flags

2012-05-05 Thread Dale
Michael Weber wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 05/05/2012 09:55 PM, Dale wrote: >> Not to mention, you add the possibility that the user may miss the >> change since they are not expecting it. I would expect it when I >> was cha

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: remove ldap from desktop profiles use flags

2012-05-05 Thread Dale
Ben wrote: > On 6 May 2012 08:29, Dale wrote: >> I mentioned this once a long time ago. We expect things to stay the >> same unless we do something to change them. If things change without us >> doing the change, we tend to freak out a bit. We don't need any >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About using USE flags to pull in needed RDEPENDs being discouraged by devmanual

2012-06-16 Thread Dale
nd want it in the world file, just use the --select option. If I already emerged something but then want to add it to the world file, just add the -n option too. That keeps the world file clean and I can test things before adding anything to the world file. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only respon

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UEFI secure boot and Gentoo

2012-06-17 Thread Dale
as going to have to pay M$ to run Linux, I was thinking of shooting them with laser eyes or something. I have no plans to ever support M$ in any shape, form or fashion. Period. Thing is, they will likely try to make it so you can't disable it eventually. Some politician will try to make it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge

2012-07-17 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: > > This is not quite correct. The initramfs is required because of [1]. > > > William > Where is [1]? Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge

2012-07-17 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 06:13:06PM -0500, Dale wrote: >> William Hubbs wrote: >>> >>> This is not quite correct. The initramfs is required because of [1]. >>> >>> >>> William >>> >> Where is [1]? >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: news item: changes to stages (make.conf and make.profile)

2012-07-24 Thread Dale
may not apply to me but I always keep in mind that it may apply to a large number of other users. I would MUCH rather see a message sent out that doesn't apply to me than to not see one that should have been sent out but wasn't. Just a users opinion and expectations. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: news item: changes to stages (make.conf and make.profile)

2012-07-24 Thread Dale
n pointing it out. > > Sure, when my system breaks I'm pretty smart and can usually figure > out how to fix it. That doesn't mean that I don't appreciate a > heads-up before it breaks. > > Rich > > +1 I might also add, I printed the manual years ago. I rare

Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-07 Thread Dale
should not even be tried because it is known to not work. Given that, if a person tries to use mdev to replace udev in a situation where it is known not to work, then they should read more closely. It's not Walters fault, it's the person in the chair. Now, since Walter didn't like the way things are going, can he write code and be left in peace to do so? Maybe have a little bit of support while he is doing it? Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to raise money for Gentoo

2012-09-27 Thread Dale
wbrana wrote: > Page www.gentoo.org asks for donations > "Donate to support our development efforts." > Gentoo could get more money if all *.gentoo.org would contain advertisements. > > My questions are this: Does Gentoo need more money? Is it in need of more funds

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to raise money for Gentoo

2012-09-27 Thread Dale
Alec Warner wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Dale wrote: >> wbrana wrote: >>> Page www.gentoo.org asks for donations >>> "Donate to support our development efforts." >>> Gentoo could get more money if all *.gentoo.org would contain >>&

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-01 Thread Dale
sons hand. If a person needs their hands held, they should have chosen another distro. Gentoo is not a hand holding distro. It's just a distro that has great docs for people to learn first, then update. This has been a users perspective. Back to my hole. ;-) Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-01 Thread Dale
small business, that could mean > thousands of dollars. > > "Ha ha, you shouldn't have trusted me!" is not the appropriate response. > > If you see the flag changing, best find out what that change is about BEFORE you update. I do this every time I update. I check US

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-dev+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org

2017-02-27 Thread Dale
Christophe Farges wrote: > Not quite there. List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org> Send a empty email TO that address not with it in the subject line. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should Sphinx really depends on PYTHON_COMPAT/PYTHON_USEDEP for `dev-python/*` ebuilds?

2017-05-12 Thread Dale
o that before when I'm googling trying to get something to work to only find out that the way things are set up has changed and no longer applies to what I have installed. Having the docs included when available should be required. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Providing a `service` scripts that speaks OpenRC and systemd

2017-09-28 Thread Dale
ed not long ago and as far as I can tell, nothing came of it.  https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/9bd54475fc23b9c265984c5a91129710  Hope that link works, if not, this is the subject of the discussion.  "[openrc] [systemd] make `service` common for both OpenRC and SystemD (like Debian/Ubuntu/whatever did)" It has a few replies. Dale :-)  :-)  * *

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last Rites: Ancient x11-drivers/*

2017-11-24 Thread Dale
n x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev: kde-plasma/plasma-desktop-5.11.3 (mouse ? x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev) x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.19 (input_devices_evdev ? x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev)  * These packages depend on x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa: x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.19 (video_cards_vesa ? x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa) root@fireball / # What will change without it, not sure.  :/ Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider

2016-02-08 Thread Dale
t. >>> >> just pile the pressure on :) > +1 > I use eudev on all setups (both home and work) for years now. > The experience is yummy. > > Best regards, > Andrew Savchenko +1 As a lowly user, I switched very shortly after eudev was started. I think it was like the second or third release. So far, I've not seen any problems. It just works. One thing about Gentoo, for those who don't want eudev, they can always select another tool. Back to my hole. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider

2016-02-09 Thread Dale
ry that enabled systemd for a package. Once that was found and removed, the switch was like it should be. Unmerge udev and emerge eudev. Back to my hole. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] usr merge

2016-04-09 Thread Dale
on top of RAID or something equally > complex. If you're already running that kernel version, you don't even > need to specify it. > FYI. I've had those to fail too. As Walt said, just one more thing to fail. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] please remove me off your mailing list

2016-05-23 Thread Dale
Tyler Pohl wrote: > tylerap...@gmail.com <mailto:tylerap...@gmail.com> > > Thanks, > -- > Tyler Pohl Nope. It doesn't work that way. Try this: List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org> Send a empty email to that and I think you have to confirm. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] please remove me off your mailing list

2016-05-23 Thread Dale
Kent Fredric wrote: > On 24 May 2016 at 08:08, Dale wrote: >> Nope. It doesn't work that way. Try this: >> >> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org> >> >> Send a empty email to that and I think you have to confirm. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project

2016-06-08 Thread Dale
ould be done, then users who don't use it won't be bothered by it but users who do will get the news announcement about its future. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc 0.22 updates (second draft)

2016-09-26 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: "then overridden bby configuration stored in" should be "then overridden by configuration stored in" Minor typo or sticky keyboard. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc 0.22 updates (second draft)

2016-09-26 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:27:18PM -0500, Dale wrote: >> William Hubbs wrote: >> >> "then overridden bby configuration stored in" >> >> should be >> >> "then overridden by configuration stored in" >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-11 Thread Dale
that no one wants to take it.  Like others, I use it but didn't know it wasn't maintained anymore.  I hope someone will step up but if not, looks like we have to use udev.  Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-12 Thread Dale
t one should check configs and make sure there is no systemd/udev entries, in case it masks or prevents something from being installed.  I already checked mine. My vote, give it time.  If someone steps up, great.  If not, we just have to switch to udev and move on.  Debating it even more is unlikely to change anything and may even send some running away.  I just wish we knew just how many people actually used eudev.  Based on this thread, I know of 2.  I know one of them can't code.  That's me!!  ;-)  My $0.02 worth.  Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-12 Thread Dale
emerge has improved and how dependencies are resolved with ease for us users.  The work on the emerge command and ebuilds has improved a LOT.  I still wish the error output was more friendly but hey, at least there is a whole lot less of it.  :-D  Let's deal with what is in front of us.  Thanks again to the devs.  Dale :-)  :-)  I'm going back to my hole now. 

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-13 Thread Dale
Alexe Stefan wrote: > On 9/13/23, Dale wrote: >> Alexe Stefan wrote: >>> While my posts may be a little bit inflammatory, no one pointed out >>> where I'm wrong. >>> I don't hate gentoo, but I don't want choice to be taken away from user

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-13 Thread Dale
e number of people who did, could there have been a glitch and it didn't show for some weird reason?  Has someone who understands the code checked to see if there was some typo that made it not show for most users?  I do think this is worth looking into.  It just seems odd.  Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-16 Thread Dale
Sam James wrote: > Oskari Pirhonen writes: > >> [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] >> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 03:10:51 -0500, Dale wrote: >>> Andrew Ammerlaan wrote: >>>> And then another thing, how is it possible that so many people missed >>>> th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Dale
at will either fix the issue for good or at least provide a workaround until a solution is found. Gentoo has some awesome devs. Someone will find a solution. I notice that it has already been changed in the tree to a version that does not have the malicious code. That alone should be a solution until a new plan is made. While I'm a little concerned and hope for a proper solution, I'm not to worried. I certainly don't think we should overreact this early. Give the devs and upstream time to work this out. Just a users opinion. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Dale
need to react as quickly as they can to the devs actions.  Let's just not overreact just yet.  The devs has rolled back to a safe, safer, version.  Let time and more info sort this out. If it is needed, xz will go away, which shouldn't come as a surprise.  I'm sure the person who

Re: [gentoo-dev] eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Dale
ngs, that's what Gentoo > is about - choice. > > I wish eudev both good luck and success. Success comes in many forms, > so I won't try to predict exactly what that means. Suffice to say, we > will all recognise it when we see it. > +1 and I'm looking forward to us

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-20 Thread Dale
) path >> and move things at least one level up. Two would be even better. > You shouldn't ever be typing that path in... > I was thinking tab completion myself. Just hit a couple letters and hit tab. That tab key types much faster and more accurately than I can. ;-) Dale :

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Wordiness

2012-12-21 Thread Dale
text and good reasoning. I might also add, some people write short emails then have responses that request more info. I think Duncan just heads those off and makes his point the first time around. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-21 Thread Dale
;>> well. >> Just to be clear, by "init*" you mean {initrd,initramfs} , correct? > Yes > > On the Gentoo-user mailing list, that's one of the two common ways of > referring to it. The other one is " init-thingy ". ;) > > -- > Joost > &

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-21 Thread Dale
J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Friday, December 21, 2012 08:52:00 AM Dale wrote: >> J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> On Friday, December 21, 2012 08:51:09 AM Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>>> Hash: SHA256 >>>> >>>&

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-21 Thread Dale
> system boots correctly without issues. > > -- > Joost > > Same here. I have /usr on LVM and plan to use eudev as SOON as it is ready. I'm just waiting on someone to post that it is as easy as unmerging udev and emerging eudev and maybe a reboot. Dale :-) :-) --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: new "qt" category

2013-01-20 Thread Dale
>> kde-meta, or emerge -uD1 @world ...) > More often than one might think. =:^] > > Same here. I have had to re-emerge qt packages several times myself. It seems that when I do, I have to do them all one at a time too. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: new "qt" category

2013-01-20 Thread Dale
Ben de Groot wrote: > On 20 January 2013 21:35, Dale wrote: >> Same here. I have had to re-emerge qt packages several times myself. >> It seems that when I do, I have to do them all one at a time too. > In which case you're better off with something like: >emerge -a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Dale
go (remember, my first successful gentoo install was 2004.1), the > fstab example file found in /usr/share/baselayout/fstab was packaged as > /etc/fstab directly. Now, the handbook of the era took great pains to > guide people thru editing it appropriately, saying the ALLCAPS entries

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Dale
well. Speaking of, I need to update again. I stopped using it because I was always having either one trouble or another. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Switchup-mode and boottime selector? Was: eselect init

2013-05-29 Thread Dale
> In case you missed the post, thought I would provide it to clear up the matter. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] revbumping ebuilds after USE dependency changes

2013-07-25 Thread Dale
-p2p/transmission/transmission-2.80.ebuild?r1=1.1&r2=1.2 > > Thanks, As a lowly user, I have been banging on this for a few days now. I'm almost bald from all the hair pulling. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-16 Thread Dale
I reboot and everything works, I make a new backup of /etc. Going to add /var/lib to that to now. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-16 Thread Dale
too. I use that but still make a backup myself, just in case. Generally, a successful reboot is a good sign that the configs are working. Going to look into this but the home page doesn't really show me much, yet. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Official way to do rolling update (Was: Re: Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec)

2013-11-04 Thread Dale
re stable system is to do a emerge -e world and update that way. At least that has been my experience so far. If Zac adds some other nifty feature, then I may add to the above as needed. For the past few years, that has resulted in as stable a system as I can get. I do from time to time run emerge -e world just for giggles when I have something acting odd and can't put my finger on the issue. Sometimes, that fixes it, sometimes not. Again, most of this comes from experience. The handbook explains it then the user figures it out from there. My $0.02 worth. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Official way to do rolling update (Was: Re: Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec)

2013-11-04 Thread Dale
Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 06:06:52 -0600 > Dale wrote: > >> But after a person has used Gentoo a while, they figure out what >> process leads to the most stable update process. > > Do they? What do you consider a stable update process? I consider it stab

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Official way to do rolling update (Was: Re: Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec)

2013-11-04 Thread Dale
Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 14:02:28 -0600 > Dale wrote: > >> You are right, it does require prior knowledge and as a user gets that >> knowledge, they likely end up where Alan, Duncan and myself are. That >> would be emerge -uaDN world. > > And

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-13 Thread Dale
ell or better? >> Is cronie a drop-in replacement, or do I have to do some thinking when >> replacing vixie-cron? >> > It should be a drop-in. The only change to make would be to remove > vixie-cron and add cronie to the default runlevel. > > I switched my system and tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: news item for upower

2014-06-04 Thread Dale
ould have never occurred to me. I might add, I been using Gentoo since 2003. I'm not a dev for sure and don't do scripting stuff so diggin in the ebuilds doesn't generally help me much either. Just a users point of view. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2014-07-20 23h59 UTC

2014-07-21 Thread Dale
Diamond wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:25:02 + > "Robin H. Johnson" wrote: > > >> Removals: >> net-misc/curl2014-07-15 09:29:56 blueness > Is this a joke? Isn't curl as basic package as wget? > > Look under additions. It's there. Dale :-) :-)

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