Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing gnophone from tree

2006-06-25 Thread Alec Warner
Gustavo Felisberto wrote: > Gnophone is upstream dead. Does not build in amd64 (and probably other arches) > failling on configure. > > I'm going to give this two weeks an then remove it if no one offers to solve > this problems. (There is no open bug so one should contact me directly) > Open on

[gentoo-dev] [Last Rites for many packages]

2006-06-25 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 These have been in pmask for quite some time, Due to this fact I will remove them in 7 days instead of 30. If anyone objects I will extend the time, however most have been masked for well over 3 months ( some for years ) which IMHO justifies a shorter

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Security Dev : Falco

2006-06-26 Thread Alec Warner
Markus Ullmann wrote: Shyam Mani wrote: Please extend a warm welcome to Raphael Marichez aka Falco, our newest addition to the Security team. Welcome on board Falco :) Have a nice warm home here Jokey Congrats, I've seen you do great work in -security and on bugs (even though I only lu

[gentoo-dev] Assigning bugs to treecleaners

2006-06-27 Thread Alec Warner
I'd prefer if you are going to remove a package and you want treecleaners to do it; either talk to a treecleaners project member on irc or via the alias first, or just assign it to maintainer-needed and CC treecleaners. I don't want a million bugs assigned to treecleaners. The point of the p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Assigning bugs to treecleaners

2006-06-27 Thread Alec Warner
Michael Cummings wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alec Warner wrote: I'd prefer if you are going to remove a package and you want treecleaners to do it; either talk to a treecleaners project member on irc or via the alias first, or just assign it to maintainer-neede

Re: [gentoo-dev] Slimming down the portage tree [WAS: Assigning bugs to treecleaners]

2006-06-27 Thread Alec Warner
Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Raphael Marichez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: IMHO this seems a good idea. The portage tree is growing every week, every month, and it doesn't really suit for the very little systems (embedded linux) nowadays. Furthermore, with the old 2.0-portage, the syncing and cac

[gentoo-dev] [Last Rites for stuff]

2006-06-29 Thread Alec Warner
app-misc/mirror [1][2][3] app-emulation/pose [4][5][6][7][8][9] net-libs/libical-moz [10] net-im/gtalk [11] Speak up now, or they will be pmasked and removed from the tree. The usual 30 days applies. [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69698 [2] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70

[gentoo-dev] TreeCleaner June Removals

2006-07-01 Thread Alec Warner
dev-libs/nana bug # 32672 -> Removed x11-wm/blwm bug # 71479 -> Removed app-editors/gnotepad+ bug # 122993 -> Removed net-misc/powerd bug # 70373 -> Removed dev-lisp/cl-clx-sbcl bug # 134623 -> Removed app-office/gnofin and gnome-extra/gnobog bug # 134624 -> Removed net-p2p/dc-gui bug # 134630 -> R

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-07 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan Schweizer wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: >> - only Gentoo devs may be nominated > > with that limitation in mind I want to propose some developers that are > doing a lot of work to improve gentoo: > antarus for his treecleaners work I appreci

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: 'mad' vs 'mp3' USE flags

2006-07-15 Thread Alec Warner
Duncan wrote: > Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], > excerpted below, on Fri, 14 Jul 2006 13:24:26 -0700: > >>> Per-package use.mask is not here for another year and in the mean time I >>> needed a working solution, this is it. >> It think we can have it sooner than "another

[gentoo-dev] [Treecleaners - More Cowbell]

2006-07-16 Thread Alec Warner
6] PMASKED, it has 30 days. media-video/mvideo -Removal request by ChrisWhite, pmasked for 4 months, dosn't compile[7], PMASKED 30 days app-news/rol - # Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (16 Jul 2006) # app-news/rol Dead upstream, broken package bug 120920[9] net-misc/e1000 - Removal due to

[gentoo-dev] sys-fs/dmraid needs lovin'

2006-07-17 Thread Alec Warner
This package was given to treecleaners[1], but I think it is too useful to clean from the tree. I'd like to see it get a maintainer, or lacking that, someone to proxy-maintain it if a user is interested in the package. [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139860 -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org m

Re: [gentoo-dev] making the firefox USE flag a global one

2006-07-18 Thread Alec Warner
Simon Stelling wrote: > Hi all, > > I just noticed that the USE flag 'firefox' is a local one. I think it should > be > global, though: > > $ grep :firefox use.local.desc > app-office/openoffice:firefox - Add Firefox support > dev-haskell/gtk2hs:firefox - Build the Mozilla Embeded Component again

[gentoo-dev] Stable Staleness (mostly toolchain)

2006-07-30 Thread Alec Warner
As the lead for the treecleaner project (team, whatever you want to call it wolf ;) ), I've been trying to fix old broken packages, many have been slated for removal, some have had minor fixes, and others are still setting waiting for me to get some free time. Another class of packages I wish to d

[gentoo-dev] Re: Stable Staleness (mostly toolchain)

2006-07-30 Thread Alec Warner
Ryan Hill wrote: > Alec Warner wrote: > >> Another class of packages I wish to discuss (not remove quite yet, just >> talking ;) ) are older packages with stable markings. By Stable I mean >> debian stable, IE we stabled it in 2004 and no one has touched it since. >&

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed again (was Resignation)

2006-08-01 Thread Alec Warner
Carsten Lohrke wrote: On Monday 31 July 2006 07:05, Seemant Kulleen wrote: OK, let's start with: what exactly is the problem? Please reread my replies in the first sunrise thread. Points are: no security, issues with eclass changes which will result in bug spam, the fact that eclass changes

[gentoo-dev] Treecleaner Maskings

2006-08-01 Thread Alec Warner
x11-plugins/gkrellm-alltraxclock - [1] PMASKED net-libs/libical-moz - [2] [3] PMASKED net-misc/bk2site [4] PMASKED # Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (01 Aug 2006) # media-gfx/pornview masked for Treecleaners for bug(s) 141588 93500 120376 # Removal in 30 days media-gfx/pornview [5]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed again (was Resignation)

2006-08-02 Thread Alec Warner
Alex Tarkovsky wrote: > On 8/2/06, Stephen P. Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Every time you post it's like fingernails on a chalkboard... >> > >> > http://arcanux.org/scarecrow.png >> >> Ha ha ha! Oh gosh that's funny! That's really funny! Do you photoshop >> your own material? Do you? Beca

Re: [gentoo-dev] Treecleaner Maskings

2006-08-02 Thread Alec Warner
Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > > is this list auto-generated or evrything done by hand ? > > > cu I would be shot if it was automated; i will soon have some nifty bash scripts to generate e-mails and the pmask file,

Re: [gentoo-dev] last ritest for dev-java/saxon-bin

2006-08-02 Thread Alec Warner
Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Petteri R?ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: >> dev-java/saxon-bin is going to be removed from the tree as soon as the >> from sources version dev-java/saxon gets marked stable on arches that >> have saxon-bin stable. I will add a package move and a revision bump so >> that u

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: last ritest for dev-java/saxon-bin

2006-08-02 Thread Alec Warner
Duncan wrote: Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:45:59 +: All that said, IMO these qualify for "announcements" as much as the GLSAs normally inhabiting the announce list do. That list isn't "glsa&q

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Masking practics

2006-08-03 Thread Alec Warner
Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > >> How can it be too late? You sync during that 30 days it's masked, do an >> emerge --pretend --update world, and see that it's going to downgrade. > > How do I see it (without actually having the version numbers in mind?) >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Alec Warner
> No, not really. Just that I'd expect kinda more proactive approach than > the one demonstrated fex. in > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128588#c29 (and a bit more > flexible approach to other alternatives, such as HW/hosting offers we've > received before) and that have been declined for

[gentoo-dev] Treecleaners Recruiting

2006-08-03 Thread Alec Warner
All you crazy folks that wanted to help clean the tree please e-mail me off list. To briefly go over requirements you need to be able to: Speak English; Read English; Write English; Use Bugzilla; Use Portage; Some of you need to be able to use CVS and SVN; Some of you need gentoo-x86 commit acc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Alec Warner
Here's the question, gnome's bugzilla has over twice as many bugs as we have, is quite speedy and doesn't seem to suffer from the OOM killers that our bugzilla has. So what's the difference? Did gnome just toss hardware at the problem to make it go away or have they done something to make bugzi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-04 Thread Alec Warner
Kevin F. Quinn wrote: I'd like to suggest we make FEATURES=test (and therefore USE=test) the default behaviour, rather than the opt-in we currently have. Far too many packages fail their test phase. Since we encourage users to set CFLAGS in ways that upstream may not have predicted, if upstream

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Alec Warner
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:35:32 +0200 "Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | USE="test" is a workaround; portage cannot use FEATUREs in dep | strings. Actually, it could, if anyone ever got around to adding FEATURES to USE_EXPAND... We would do lots of things; that d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-07 Thread Alec Warner
Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > > My problem still seems unsolved (or did I miss something) ? > > Lets say, if I've, installed foo-1.1, and it gets masked due > some bug(s), but 1.0 isn't, I want to get informed with an big > fat warning, *before* anything actually done, ie. > > [...] > # WARNING: i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for advanced useflag-syntax

2006-08-07 Thread Alec Warner
Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > >>> Well, I don't consider reducing complexity "frivolous" ;-o >> Which reduction for which complexity? Do you want to bring everyone's >> systems to a grinding halt, just because you can't understand the >> "complexit

Re: [gentoo-dev] per-package USE defaults

2006-08-08 Thread Alec Warner
Stuart Herbert wrote: > Hi Zac, > > On 8/8/06, Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Stuart Herbert wrote: >> > Any chance of per-package USE defaults support? That's much more >> useful >> > to me. >> >> Attached to bug 61732 there's a pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: new svncache.eclass

2006-08-11 Thread Alec Warner
Mark Stier wrote: sorry - I do not see the need for a new eclass here. Can you please instead modify the subversion eclass and add support for what you want to do? I could if I'd see any reason for that. Going the opposite way, you duplicate much of svn.eclass for one piece of functionalit

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multiple inheritance support for profiles

2006-08-12 Thread Alec Warner
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:24:49 -0700 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Currently, portage only allows single inheritance in profiles, but | it's easy to enable multiple inheritance. In order to do this, we | only need to unconstrain the number of parents allowed in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multiple inheritance support for profiles

2006-08-12 Thread Alec Warner
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:11:25 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:24:49 -0700 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > wrote: | > | Currently, portage only allows single inheritance in profiles, b

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multiple inheritance support for profiles

2006-08-12 Thread Alec Warner
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:54:41 -0500 Andrew Gaffney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | It will also cause QA problems, since the profiles wouldn't be | strictly controlled by the arch teams and releng anymore. Uh, that's easily solved. Demand that anyone changing non-arch profile

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multiple inheritance support for profiles

2006-08-13 Thread Alec Warner
Zac Medico wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Harring wrote: Said single inheritance protection was added 06/05/06 (rev 3544), stabled for x86 roughly 06/22/06. Hasn't even yet made it to a release media- meaning folk installing from the most current release media st

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multiple inheritance support for profiles

2006-08-13 Thread Alec Warner
Zac Medico wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alec Warner wrote: Zac Medico wrote: I'm not sure what the probability of people hurting themselves like this is. Perhaps it's a negligible corner case and a note in the upgrade guide will be enough to keep the vast m

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multiple inheritance support for profiles

2006-08-14 Thread Alec Warner
Donnie Berkholz wrote: Alec Warner wrote: I think both our points are that there is a middle ground between screwing the user outright and holding their hand. If you want to trumpet the change on forums, on www, on -announce, get the message out there; then I'd be more for a change like

Re: [gentoo-dev] User support system

2006-08-16 Thread Alec Warner
I think this is an excellent idea. I wrote an automated trouble ticketing system years ago for the mainframe and it's an excellent way to get quality information into the system. The one drawback was that we ended up having a lot more bugs entered into the system. Once you have the shell i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Subtrees [WAS: Sunrise contemplations]

2006-08-16 Thread Alec Warner
hmm, I'm just thinking about splitting the tree into separate (larger) parts, actually: move out certain subtrees to an overlay. For example: KDE. Many people/systems won't ever use it (ie. have no X at all). Others are very interested in it. If we had this whole subtree in an overlay, it wo

Re: [gentoo-dev] [OT] If I may interject...

2006-08-18 Thread Alec Warner
Feel free to discuss with each other privately, but this has nothing to do with gentoo development. Thanks, Alec Warner -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Alec Warner
It has been noted that certain projects do not communicate their activities well. Many projects provide documentation for things(java), provide status updates on things(ppc), have bits in the gwn (x86,userrel,amd64), Release releases (releng), or have active webpages (adopt-a-dev, bugday) There a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Alec Warner
Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400 > Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> [...] So below we have 3 large far-reaching projects. >> >> Gentoo Quality Assurance Team >> Gentoo Infrastructure Team >> Gentoo Portage Team >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Alec Warner
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | I request that these teams present status reports bi-weekly (thats one > | every two weeks). You don't even have to write the reports, I will > | volunteer to bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Alec Warner
Marius Mauch wrote: > On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400 > Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It has been noted that certain projects do not communicate their >> activities well. >> >> Many projects provide documentation for things(java), provide

[gentoo-dev] Interactive Portage Development

2006-08-22 Thread Alec Warner
talking about. Two is subscribe to the list and comment on the proposals there. No Discussion means no perceived progress. So help us discuss and iron our stuff that YOU want to see. -Alec Warner "I guess I should re-add myself to the Portage Team" Portage Team Member. -- gentoo-dev@

Re: [gentoo-dev] User support system

2006-08-23 Thread Alec Warner
Philipp Riegger wrote: > On Aug 16, 2006, at 4:04 PM, Mike Bonar wrote: > >> On the plus side it would be much easier to find duplicate bugs since >> the titles would be uniform. > > I think this is an interesting point. I'd like to have something like a > specialised bug system for ebuilds, wher

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-23 Thread Alec Warner
Luis Medinas wrote: > On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 20:07 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> On Wednesday 23 August 2006 16:30, Luis Medinas wrote: >>> So i'm asking for a solution either remove xmms, move the maintainer for >>> anyone who volunteer or the sound herd. >> no one has answered the previous probl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Alec Warner
Robert Cernansky wrote: What bothers me also, is that it has not plugin design like xmms. Support for plugins is very good because lot of people can write plugins for lot of things. This is why people do not want to switch from xmms because thanks to plugins it have so many features that current

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-24 Thread Alec Warner
Mike Doty wrote: Thierry Carrez wrote: [snip] I for one was quite demotivated to see that the Infra team could overrule the Council (and did it twice). how? I don't recall either instance. --Mike I believe the latter was the revoking of Ciaran's CVS access prior to his trial. -- gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clean out some old files in CVS

2006-08-24 Thread Alec Warner
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 24 August 2006 05:28, Lars Weiler wrote: See attached a list of Attic-files which are +500k in size. If you want to keep one of these files, tell me. Otherwise I'll remove them on Sunday. i thought the entire point of the CVS attic is that when we want to r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-25 Thread Alec Warner
just so everyone can have their cake. It reminds me of the whole "why isn't X,Y,Z stable!". You are an empowered smart user, I think you can figure out how to keep a package that is not in the tree installed on your systems. -Alec Warner -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-25 Thread Alec Warner
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > From what I see, projects are pretty free to govern themselves. How do > you see it differently? > > As Weeve said, he's still trying to get people to stop breaking SPARC > keywords, just like 3 years ago. It's just when trying to do anything > larger than a single proj

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-25 Thread Alec Warner
> PORTAGE: > Portage developers are afraid to put anything new in the tree for fear > of breaking things (and somewhat rightly so). But as noted, it also > means you get new stuff very infrequently. > > I think the portage team has either done a poor job of bringing their > issues to the table;

[gentoo-dev] freenet6

2006-08-25 Thread Alec Warner
and then checked bugs to make sure and realized chris had taken the package, but I forgot to undo the rm'ing of the files, so when I deleted bidwatcher I er...deleted freenet6 too. Go me. -Alec Warner -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] TreeCleaner [Cleanings]

2006-08-25 Thread Alec Warner
app-emulation/pose and net-misc/bidwatcher were punted today. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] treecleaner maskings

2006-08-25 Thread Alec Warner
# Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (26 Aug 2006) # Masking dev-lang/sather for treecleaners and bug(s) # 79391 # Sept 26th for removal dev-lang/sather # Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (26 Aug 2006) # Masking app-text/hspell for treecleaners and bug(s) # 77751 # Sept 26th for remo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-26 Thread Alec Warner
Paul de Vrieze wrote: > On Thursday 24 August 2006 20:46, Alec Warner wrote: >> Robert Cernansky wrote: >>> What bothers me also, is that it has not plugin design like >>> xmms. Support for plugins is very good because lot of people can write >>> plugins for

[gentoo-dev] treecleaner maskings

2006-08-26 Thread Alec Warner
# Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (27 Aug 2006) # Masking dev-libs/libhoard for treecleaners and bug(s) # 99473 # Sept 27th for removal dev-libs/libhoard # Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (27 Aug 2006) # Masking app-misc/emelfm2 for treecleaners and bug(s) # 90476 # Sept 27th for remo

[gentoo-dev] treecleaner maskings (more)

2006-08-26 Thread Alec Warner
# Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (27 Aug 2006) +# Masking net-misc/dhcpv6 for treecleaners and bug(s) # 143189 +# Sept 27th for removal +net-misc/dhcpv6 + +# Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (27 Aug 2006) +# Masking app-mobilephone/gtkesms for treecleaners and bug(s) # 142991 +# S

[gentoo-dev] Portage Sets

2006-08-29 Thread Alec Warner
So I have implemented merging of sets (more or less) in a local portage branch. However there are some use cases for which the appopriate action is ambiguous. Use Case #1: Set1 = { postfix, gentoolkit, lsof, bind-utils, vixie-cron } A set of standard tools to be on a machine. Assume a new insta

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Sets

2006-08-29 Thread Alec Warner
Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 07:57:43 -0400 > Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> So I have implemented merging of sets (more or less) in a local >> portage branch. > > Could you elaborate how the implementation of sets would differ f

[gentoo-dev] GLEP 39 compliance

2006-08-30 Thread Alec Warner
"A project exists if it has a web page at www.g.o/proj/en/whatever that is maintained. ("Maintained" means that the information on the page is factually correct and not out-of-date.) If the webpage isn't maintained, it is presumed dead." I'm not trying to pick on any projects. Some pages are out

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 39 compliance

2006-08-30 Thread Alec Warner
Danny van Dyk wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 30. August 2006 14:26 schrieb Alec Warner: > >> Eselect, your project pages lists retired developers (Ciaran).[4] > Ciaran is the original Author, and he still helps more than ocassionally > with problems and bugs. I won't remove him

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 39 compliance

2006-08-30 Thread Alec Warner
Wernfried Haas wrote: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 09:32:32AM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: >> The only problem is that it lists him as contactable by >> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" aka [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is false. > > Also the whole section is called "Developers"

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 39 compliance

2006-08-30 Thread Alec Warner
Simon Stelling wrote: > Wernfried Haas wrote: >> As far i am concerned, i find seperate sections quite good as it's a >> clear solution as it's easy to see who is an official Gentoo monkey >> who did all the quiz stuff etc. May be subject to personal taste though. > > Well, yeah, it just makes we

Re: [gentoo-dev] reminder: USE=static is *not* for libraries

2006-08-31 Thread Alec Warner
Doug Goldstein wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: >> On Thursday 31 August 2006 13:19, Enrico Weigelt wrote: >>> BTW: is there a way to control whether static libs should be >>> installed ? >> `man make.conf` -> INSTALL_MASK >> >> dont even think about filing a bug though when something breaks because

Re: [gentoo-dev] reminder: USE=static is *not* for libraries

2006-08-31 Thread Alec Warner
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 31 August 2006 19:41, Alec Warner wrote: >> He didn't say "use install masked to mask out shared libraries" he said >> "use install mask to mask static libraries". > > looks like two people missed the short b

Re: [gentoo-dev] repoman: check for deprecated eclasses

2006-09-01 Thread Alec Warner
Stefan Schweizer wrote: > Hi, > > Repoman needs to check for deprecated eclasses, see > http://bugs.gentoo.org/141677 > > As a result of the discussion in the bug, we would like to add > $PORTDIR/qa-data/eclass.deprecated > to allow to deprecate eclasses properly and make repoman fail. > > This

Re: [gentoo-dev] repoman: check for deprecated eclasses

2006-09-01 Thread Alec Warner
Carsten Lohrke wrote: > The file listing the derecated overlays is fine. What about revdep-rebuild > and > emerge regarding installed stuff and overlays? > > > Carsten We are talking eclasses...not overlays... -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] cdrtools license issues

2006-09-01 Thread Alec Warner
Chris White wrote: > On Friday 01 September 2006 14:47, Jakub Moc wrote: >> Yeah, that's the previous fork that's been package.masked recently >> (homepage returns nifty internal server error now, we sure can expect a >> rapid development there). > > Hey ruby's had their entire server down for 2

Re: [gentoo-dev] cdrtools license issues

2006-09-01 Thread Alec Warner
Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 06:13:51PM -0700, Peter Gordon wrote: >> Carsten Lohrke wrote: >>> Imho we have to remove the partly and incompatible relicensed >>> cdrtools-2.01.01 >>> alpha ebuilds from the tree. >> I completely agree. In fact, Fedora Development also had to revert thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-02 Thread Alec Warner
Edgar Hucek wrote: > >>From my point of view, should it be garanted that a package and depencies > compiles when all use flags are enabled. If a depency can't be compiled the > use flag and depence should be dissabled/removed from a package. > > > cu > > Edgar (gimli) Hucek Give us about 3000

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for September

2006-09-02 Thread Alec Warner
Daniel Ostrow wrote: > On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 17:08 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 05:51:07AM +, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the >>> 2nd Thursday once a month), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ >>> irc

[gentoo-dev] prozilla

2006-09-02 Thread Alec Warner
Was removed due to repeated security issues, see bug 70090. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] treecleaner removals

2006-09-02 Thread Alec Warner
5 min ago gentoo Commit by antarus :: gentoo-x86/x11-plugins/gkrellm-alltraxclock/ (5 files in 2 dirs): removing x11-plugins/gkrellm-alltraxclock for bug # 62373 This package hadn't been touched since 2002 and didn't compile # 6 min ago gentoo Commit by antarus :: gentoo-x8

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-03 Thread Alec Warner
Stuart Herbert wrote: > On 9/3/06, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> And no one has implemented any kind of solution. > > You need someone to implement a solution? Surely what we need is for > folks to actually make an announcement in the first place? > &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-03 Thread Alec Warner
Jeff Rollin wrote: > > It seams that USE flags are not realy tested or how > can it happen that there are already know bugs in the > stable distro ? > > Just like to make the point that if something requires a dependency in > ~arch (unstable), then it isn't/shouldn't be in arch (stable). > Beca

[gentoo-dev] Portage Team Update

2006-09-03 Thread Alec Warner
I asked each member of the portage team (minus Marius, whom I did find on irc) what they were up to in terms of working on things. Zac informed me that 2.1.1 would be out of rc status on the 8th and that users could expect a few new features and many bugfixes. >From the NEWS file in svn: * Profil

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Bugzilla access for contributors

2006-09-03 Thread Alec Warner
Stefan Schweizer wrote: > Hi, > > as requested by multiple devrel members I have written a GLEP to standardize > bugzilla access for contributors. It has already been discussed on the > devrel mailing list before but I am looking for a wider opinion now. > > This is also a submission for the new

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Bugzilla access for contributors

2006-09-04 Thread Alec Warner
Josh Saddler wrote: > Stefan Schweizer wrote: >>> they are not defined by their status. I wonder why this word is causing >>> problems .. >>> >>> The status is maybe being an arch tester. This GLEP is not about status, >>> only about giving some people bugzilla access when needed. >>> >>> -stefan >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Bugzilla access for contributors

2006-09-04 Thread Alec Warner
Bryan Ãstergaard wrote: > On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 08:38:19PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: >> Stefan Schweizer wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> as requested by multiple devrel members I have written a GLEP to standardize >>> bugzilla access for contributors. It

[gentoo-dev] Yay Soc Release

2006-09-04 Thread Alec Warner
You can find the code in my public_html on d.g.o[1] The git commit stuff will probably take a million years. I think I will have to find a better way to have commiting with git from GIT_DIR working, or I shall go and beat up linus until he implements the functionality I need ;) Feel free to try

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-06 Thread Alec Warner
Carsten Lohrke wrote: > On Sunday 03 September 2006 16:36, Stefan Schweizer wrote: >> I am not adding stuff. I am fixing existing packages. And I am taking >> responsibility. > > How wonderful this sort of "maintenance" is you can read here: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146626 > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for www-apps/drupal

2006-09-09 Thread Alec Warner
Jakub Moc wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 21:28:10 +0100 Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> | On Saturday 09 September 2006 21:25, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: >> | > Drupal has had QA bug #98542 open for over a year now, and has seen >> | > no progress in resolving it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Required Features for $package_manager to Aid... Development!

2006-09-09 Thread Alec Warner
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 21:19 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: >> Elfyn McBratney wrote: >> >>> I've been inspired by the local/global USE flag threads recently >>> posted by Doug (Cardoe), and it got me to thinking... I've recently >>> joined the pkgcore development effort, and was

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for www-apps/drupal

2006-09-11 Thread Alec Warner
Stuart Herbert wrote: On 9/11/06, Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Uhm, web-apps has been CCed on the bug since the beginning. Last time I asked, noone wanted to touch the FUBARed ebuild, IIRC. :) The package was masked without Christel (on behalf of QA) posting an advance warning of their

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for www-apps/drupal

2006-09-11 Thread Alec Warner
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:01:02 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Stuart Herbert wrote: | > On 9/11/06, Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | >> Uhm, web-apps has been CCed on the bug since the beginning. Last | >> time I asked, noone

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for www-apps/drupal

2006-09-11 Thread Alec Warner
Lance Albertson wrote: > Alec Warner wrote: >> Stuart Herbert wrote: >>> On 9/11/06, Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> Uhm, web-apps has been CCed on the bug since the beginning. Last time I >>>> asked, noone wanted to touch the FUBARed ebu

Re: [gentoo-dev] AutoMake and paralle safe makefiles [WAS: using -j1 with distcc?]

2006-09-13 Thread Alec Warner
Aron Griffis wrote: From bind-9.3.2-r4.ebuild: Unless somebody can explain how this is valid, I'll go ahead and fix the bind ebuilds (where "fix" means "use -j1 unconditionally since the Makefiles aren't parallel safe"). Aron If I'm using Autotools, aren't they smart enough (given that I spec

[gentoo-dev] [Maskings] Yay!

2006-09-18 Thread Alec Warner
# Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (19 Sep 2006) # masked media-gfx/xwgui2 for treecleaners, bug(s) 147488 # Removal Oct 19th media-gfx/xwgui2 gimp-1.2 is dying; so stuff depping on 1.2 also dies; aka this pkg. # Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (19 Sep 2006) # masked x11-plugins/

[gentoo-dev] [Maskings] More of em

2006-09-18 Thread Alec Warner
# Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (19 Sep 2006) +# masked media-libs/libirman for treecleaners, bug(s) 89663 +# Removal Oct 19th +media-libs/libirman been a year since last action; it needs a bump. + +# Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (19 Sep 2006) +# masked app-misc/lhinv for treec

[gentoo-dev] [Removals]

2006-09-18 Thread Alec Warner
Been package.masked for over a year... ;) # Peter Johanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (02 May 2005) # Masking as it is broken against newer wine versions, # and completely abandoned upstream dev-dotnet/winelib Punted # Henrik Brix Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (2 Jul 2006) # Masked pending removal, bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] default USE flags in profiles (+acl)

2006-09-18 Thread Alec Warner
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 18 September 2006 21:12, Chris Gianelloni wrote: >> I would prefer that we add this into a new release profile and move it >> "up" the profile inheritance tree as the non-acl profiles get >> deprecated, rather than introduce this into the current profiles. > > add

[gentoo-dev] [Unmaskings]

2006-09-19 Thread Alec Warner
Pornview was unmasked; thanks to Ben Hodgetts for the fixes. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds

2006-09-20 Thread Alec Warner
Stuart Herbert wrote: > On 9/20/06, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Uhh... "seeds"? > > Yes, seeds. Seems to describe what we're working towards as well as > any other name. > >> "bring the work to the main tree"? >> >> As in... duplicate functionality already provided by catalyst

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds

2006-09-20 Thread Alec Warner
This whole thread is quite disappointing to me. Someone comes up with a new way to use Gentoo; to make it a viable tool for a job; to make it USEFUL. This is what we are about here (or were?). "Put another way, the Gentoo philosophy is to create better tools."

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds

2006-09-21 Thread Alec Warner
However the behaviour displayed in this list, and in particular this thread are downright embarassing. I used to be proud of being a gentoo user and following a group of dedicated and clever developers. Now I just want to find a quick and easy way to get rid of it. You have had your antics display

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Delay in approval of new developers

2006-09-22 Thread Alec Warner
You cannot allow things to get out of hand like they do. Everyone here obviously wants to make gentoo better. However, NOT everyone has the right to do so. Not everyone has the right? I think the GPL would preclude that statement. Not everyone has the *drive*, or the social skills, or the

Re: [gentoo-dev] treecleaner removals

2006-09-28 Thread Alec Warner
Drake Wyrm wrote: Christian Heim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: # Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (27 Aug 2006) # Masking media-radio/xlog for treecleaners and bug(s) # 88580 # Sept 27th for removal media-radio/xlog Punted. So, why was this one punted, anyway? The bug was fixe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: treecleaner removals

2006-09-28 Thread Alec Warner
Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer wrote: Tach David, 0x2B859DE3 (PGP-PK-ID) David Grant schrieb: On 9/28/06, Michael Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +++ Mark Stier [28/09/06 15:35 +0200]: How about entering the removed ebuilds into bugzilla under an adequate se

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