On 06:24 Wed 16 Apr , Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> What all are blocks used for?
>
> a) Marking that two unrelated packages are mutually incompatible at
> runtime because they happen to collide, for example on a commonly named
> executable.
>
> b) Marking that two related implementations are mutu
On 09:55 Wed 16 Apr , Tiziano Müller wrote:
> What do the new ebuilds offer:
> a) A split into dev-db/postgresql-{base,server,docs}. Now, I know that
> splitting up packages isn't the Gentoo way. I know we could have done it
> using USE flags but this approach gives more flexibility due to the
On 05:31 Sat 19 Apr , Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> I'm rewording the PMS sections on dependencies to avoid permitting
> overly lax circular dependency resolution. Which of these wordings is
> accurate, given that usable means "has its RDEPENDs installed and
> usable"?
>
> 1. During pkg_preinst and
On 05:54 Sat 19 Apr , Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:45:13 -0700
> Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'd go with RDEPEND only. Any other interpretation results in
> > installing build-time-only packages along with a binpkg, which
&
On 06:33 Sat 19 Apr , Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:27:21 -0700
> Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My interpretation is pkg_* counts as runtime (I can imagine a package
> > wanting to run itself at this point), so packages in RDEPEND
On 02:27 Mon 28 Apr , Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Sunday 27 April 2008, Santiago M. Mola wrote:
> > Anyway, next time I'll use @-project, and let's see if someone
> > actually cares about that mailing list.
>
> unfortunately (fortunately?), that's the way the Gentoo community wants it.
> gent
On 03:04 Wed 07 May , Mike Frysinger wrote:
> This is your one-day friendly reminder ! The monthly Gentoo Council
> meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net. See the
> channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC).
>
> If you're supposed to show up, please s
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Here is the summary from today's council meeting. The complete log will
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Quick summary
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Active-developer document: We reviewed it and made some suggestions for
improving both the document and the onlin
On 21:10 Fri 09 May , Michael Hammer wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'd like to add kstart to the tree and have a question to the license
> of the package. It's some kind of combination of the MIT License with
> a few minor licenses. Should I add the whole license file to the tree?
> Here is the link:
>
>
On 10:54 Sat 10 May , Duncan wrote:
> Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> excerpted below, on Thu, 08 May 2008 16:33:28 -0700:
>
> > Here is the summary from today's council meeting. The complete log will
> > show up at http:
On 08:03 Tue 13 May , Rémi Cardona wrote:
> We all know which devs/herds bugs should be assigned to, we all know most
> bugs aren't complete if emerge --info is not provided, that sort of things.
> But Real Bug Masters (tm) know all the dupes, know all the current problems
> in our various t
On 16:33 Thu 08 May , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Enforced retirement: After 2.5 hours on the previous topics, people had
> to go to sleep and jokey's computer broke. Instead of waiting till the
> next regular meeting, because of its urgency, we scheduled a special
> session
Hi everyone,
A while back, vapier added some tests for the toolchain-funcs eclass to
/usr/portage/eclass/tests/. I really like the idea, and I recently
discovered an xUnit-style unit-testing framework for shell scripts
called ShUnit2. I played with it a little and made a couple of
prototypes.
On 01:13 Thu 29 May , Marius Mauch wrote:
> One concern raised by some people is that it might cause old libraries
> with security issues to stay on the system for eternity even though
> the package was upgraded, and eventually be preferred by new builds.
> I can't rule this out completely but
On 22:53 Fri 30 May , Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 31 May 2008 00:47:44 +0300
> Mart Raudsepp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The story that matters here is, that a C++ corner case that does not
> > work on 0.01% of packages with --as-needed and breaks on non-ELF
> > platforms, should not ca
On 01:09 Sat 31 May , Mike Frysinger wrote:
I'd like to advocate for interested people to pick up a few of these.
> net-misc/ntp
It would be good if someone took this, because a ton of people use it.
> net-misc/dropbear
> sys-libs/uclibc
I'd really like for someone to pick these up, since
On 12:07 Tue 03 Jun , Łukasz Damentko wrote:
> Nominations aren't open yet. They will be soon (rather days than
> weeks). But not yet. I have no idea why you guys rushed it but you
> will have nominate again after we open if for real.
That sounds like pointless bureaucracy ... is there any rea
On 14:52 Thu 05 Jun , Samuli Suominen wrote:
> # Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (05 Jun 2008)
> # Masked for removal in ~30 days by treecleaners.
> # Replaced by USE libffi in sys-devel/gcc. Bug 163724.
> dev-libs/libffi
> dev-lang/squeak
> x11-libs/gtk-server
The latest version of g-wrap
On 02:35 Thu 05 Jun , Josh Saddler wrote:
> Now that nominations are officially open, I nominate the current council
> members (again):
> dberkholz
Yes. I'd like to continue trying to make the council more effective.
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On 13:32 Fri 06 Jun , Ferris McCormick wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 01:37 +, Ferris McCormick wrote:
> And the bit about hearing appeals assumes that devrel initiated the
> disciplinary action being appealed. I'd make it explicit that Council
> is not itself a disciplinary body --- resol
On 15:53 Fri 06 Jun , William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/about.shtml
>
> "The FreeBSD Foundation is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization dedicated
> to supporting the FreeBSD Project."
>
> It's clear the that BSD Foundation is directly tied to the BSD project.
> I
On 17:55 Fri 06 Jun , William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 14:13 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > On 15:53 Fri 06 Jun , William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> > > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/about.shtml
> > >
> > > "The Fre
On 14:26 Sun 08 Jun , Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> "Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > The tree's small enough that grep -r gives enough performance.
>
> Even better
>
> grep */*/metadata.xml
>
> the tree is not big enough that it exceeds the maximum argu
On 19:03 Mon 09 Jun , Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> Robert Buchholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > # [tracker] GCC 4.3 porting
> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198121
>
> or https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=gcc-4.3
>
> >
> > # [TRACKER] ebuilds failing to build agai
On 13:41 Sun 08 Jun , Alex Howells wrote:
> I would like to see Council move towards a more compressed meeting
> format -- people presenting arguments need to work out their stuff
> before bringing it up in the meeting, and to allow for quick
> turn-around of decisions I'd suggest fortnightly m
On 11:12 Sun 08 Jun , Piotr Jaroszyński wrote:
> Hello,
>
> looks like every nominee wants the council to be more technical so I
> have a few technical questions for you:
>
> 1. GLEP54
> 2. GLEP55
I don't have any particular objections to these, besides the vague
aesthetic one of having EAP
On 05:20 Tue 10 Jun , Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Yet GLEP 55 is the only solution that's been proposed that solves the
> requirements. And your entire argument boils down to "file extension
> changes don't look pretty", for some arbitrary value of pretty that
> also precludes index.html.en and in
On 00:11 Wed 11 Jun , Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> I would like the portage devs to comment upon which of the following features
> they think could easily be implemented before portage 2.2 goes stable.
These ones meet the criteria of "I know people are working around them
because they don't
On 03:06 Wed 11 Jun , Mike Frysinger wrote:
> This is your one-day friendly reminder ! The monthly Gentoo Council
> meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net. See the
> channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC).
Here's the proposed agenda. I intend to get
On 14:58 Wed 11 Jun , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Carefully note the Preparation sections. If they aren't completed, we
> will postpone the topic to the -council mailing list or the next meeting
> instead of waste time during the meeting doing things that should've
&g
On 02:47 Mon 26 May , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> A while back, vapier added some tests for the toolchain-funcs eclass to
> /usr/portage/eclass/tests/. I really like the idea, and I recently
> discovered an xUnit-style unit-testing framework for shell scripts
> called ShUnit2. I pl
On 04:11 Wed 11 Jun , Brian Harring wrote:
> Reiterating the early request, I'd like the council to please discuss
> the current status of PMS,
People actually working on the PMS would be better-placed to discuss its
current status, if by that you mean progress toward an approved spec.
The
On 17:11 Fri 06 Jun , Marius Mauch wrote:
> It's not about "forcing" anyone to do something but giving people enough
> information on how to implement it _if they choose to do so_. With the
> current GLEP they'd have to make arbitrary decisions if e.g. a flag is
> defined in both use.local.desc
On 19:03 Thu 12 Jun , Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:14:21 -0400
> Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thursday 12 June 2008, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > > On 04:11 Wed 11 Jun , Brian Harring wrote:
> > > > Reiterating the
Hi all,
Here is the summary from today's council meeting. The complete log will
show up at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ shortly.
Thanks,
Donnie
Quick summary
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Overall, the meeting went really well! Things that helped were
additional preparation notes in the agenda, a requ
On 23:15 Sun 29 Jun , Fabian Groffen wrote:
> On 29-06-2008 07:29:57 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Saturday 28 June 2008, Petteri Räty wrote:
> > > Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis kirjoitti:
> > > > I would like to suggest that default LDFLAGS in Gentoo contain the
> > > > following f
On 22:04 Mon 30 Jun , Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote:
> PS: I'd like to remind users reading here that assigning bugs directly
> is _bad_ if you didn't perform the above checks. It is _not_ ok to
> assign bugs just because you _think_ the package is owned by ${HERD}.
The standard user privileges
On 19:33 Thu 05 Jun , Roy Bamford wrote:
> I don't want to nominate anyone who hasn't been nominated already.
> I would like to address all the candidates who have or will accept
> council nominations.
I just got to this because I was on vacation and I've been busy getting
work done since I
On 23:00 Sat 05 Jul , Łukasz Damentko wrote:
> Gentoo Council for term 2008/2009 will be:
>
> Donnie Berkholz (dberkholz)
> Mark Loeser (Halcy0n)
> Diego Petteno (Flameeyes)
> Petteri Raty (Betelgeuse)
> Luca Barbato (lu_zero)
> Markus Ullmann (Jokey)
> Tobias Sc
On 23:00 Sat 05 Jul , Łukasz Damentko wrote:
> Gentoo Council for term 2008/2009 will be:
>
> Donnie Berkholz (dberkholz)
> Mark Loeser (Halcy0n)
> Diego Petteno (Flameeyes)
> Petteri Raty (Betelgeuse)
> Luca Barbato (lu_zero)
> Markus Ullmann (Jokey)
> Tobias Sch
-python, because things should be
categorized functionally instead of by the language they're implemented
in. 90% of the time you don't care about the language. But category
moves are pretty much pointless, so I don't normally bring it up.
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On 21:51 Mon 07 Jul , Joe Peterson wrote:
> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > I actually object to having crap in dev-python, because things should be
> > categorized functionally instead of by the language they're implemented
> > in. 90% of the time you don't care a
On 04:03 Tue 08 Jul , Andrey Grozin wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
>> I actually object to having crap in dev-python, because things should be
>> categorized functionally instead of by the language they're implemented
>> in. 90% of the tim
On 19:14 Tue 08 Jul , Ryan Hill wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:02:37 -0700
> Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I don't think it's worth losing track of the CVS history just so we
> > can have something in a different place that ulti
's
unclear, or you have another suggestion. As before, since we have an
agenda in advance we won't be holding an open floor.
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People who need to take action
==
No
s no real debate about that (the only question was where), and
Cardoe said this morning that he was just going to commit it. If people
had any problems, they would've posted them to the thread.
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c template
ebuilds of different packages. This would most likely be a problem when
one is added and another is removed in the same commit, although that's
the wrong workflow. I'm not sure whether it would also be a problem with
multiple commits. I suppose you'd see the problem wh
On 01:40 Wed 09 Jul , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 05:30 Tue 01 Jul , Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even
> > vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole
> > Gentoo dev list to see.
>
k
glance), perhaps a script more like g-cpan or g-pypi would be merited
instead of large numbers of trivial ebuilds?
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Hi all,
Here is the summary from Thursday's council meeting. The complete log
will show up at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ shortly.
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Quick summary
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GLEP 54: There
Here are quick updates on the topics we didn't discuss in detail during
the council meeting.
On 01:40 Wed 09 Jul , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Appeals of spb, rbrown, & philantrop
We are actively discussing the appeals and will get decisions out ASAP.
> Meeting frequency &
bout parallel builds?
> src_install() {
> make DESTDIR="${D}"/opt/axiom
> COMMAND="${D}"/opt/axiom/mnt/linux/bin/axiom install \
> || die 'Failed to install Axiom!'
Use emake, please.
>
> mv "${D}"/opt/axiom/m
p://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/app-mobilephone/galicesms/galicesms-1.62.ebuild?rev=1.1&content-type=text/plain
> src_install() {
> dobin "${PN}"
> }
dobin doesn't die on failure.
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einfo "Adding env.d entry for Hylafax"
> doenvd 99${P}
doenvd doesn't die on failure.
> einfo "Adding init.d entry for Hylafax"
> newinitd "${FILESDIR}"/${PN}-4.2 ${PN}
Neither does newinitd.
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> (Portage version: 2.2_rc1/cvs/Linux 2.6.24-gentoo-r8 i686)
Could someone please explain why this requires a revision bump?
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unds like an argument against
automation, and I'm not following it.
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On 20:25 Tue 15 Jul , Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:23:08 -0700
> Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Could someone explain why manually doing work is better than
> > automatically detecting the deps? This sounds like an argument
> &g
ort"
FFLAGS="-openmp -parallel -ipo -xO -O2 -no-prec-div"
FCFLAGS="${FFLAGS}"
export CC CXX FC F77 FFLAGS FCFLAGS
Is what you're proposing here an improvement over something like the
above setup? If so, could you explain how?
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ed livecd, and the compiler
> itself with a fetch restriction allows the user to legally register
> for their free non-commercial license.
OK, so we can't sell icc-compiled software in our Gentoo store, so the
releases would always remain built with gcc.
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problem, this is
something we need to figure out a better fix for. Perhaps we could abuse
the 'deprecated' file in profiles with this type of message.
Developers are basically our core audience, and we need to make things
work well for them.
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e as well. We need to
set up a new cron job for this.)
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On 17:13 Mon 21 Jul , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote
> on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev
> list to see.
Here's the list of ongoing items from 2 weeks ago:
http://archive
On 17:26 Mon 21 Jul , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Here's the list of ongoing items from 2 weeks ago:
> http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_bb3a3a0c1b0acb771a263294a67b722e.xml
>
> Here's the council summary from 2 weeks ago:
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/coun
s policy.
Why are you asking us? He's the QA lead, you should be talking with the
QA team about this.
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lay and it's
huge. It's clearly GPL-licensed, presumably from the GATOS project, and
that makes it unacceptable for upstream. I'm presuming it is straight
from the GATOS folks and thus is just adding TV-out.
The libdrm and xorg-server patches look more reasonable
st be
notified at least 14 days before the meeting itself.
For more info on the Gentoo Council, feel free to browse our homepage:
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On 23:17 Thu 31 Jul , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote
> on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev
> list to see.
I know at least one person has already submitted an agenda item. Pleas
On 23:17 Thu 31 Jul , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd/4th
> Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @
> irc.freenode.net) !
Jokey pointed out that in fact the council meeting is August 14.
-
On 16:43 Sat 02 Aug , Stuart Longland wrote:
> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > On 13:23 Thu 31 Jul , Stuart Longland wrote:
> >>An alternative however, I'd like to propose is the addition of a 'lm2e'
> >> local USE flag to the affected ebuilds
&
would like to have the new bot in your #gentoo-* channel, would
> each channel founder/leader please respond to this thread, stating the
> channel name, and that they are the contact for any problems/troubles.
#gentoo-desktop
#gentoo-cluster
#gentoo-pr
#gentoo-council
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good faith effort
to maintain the privacy of your personal information. "
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On 23:17 Thu 31 Jul , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd/4th
> Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @
> irc.freenode.net) !
>
> If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about,
On 03:01 Thu 14 Aug , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 23:17 Thu 31 Jul , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd/4th
> > Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @
> > irc.freenode.net) !
On 03:01 Thu 14 Aug , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Here's a rough agenda. I'll hash it out a bit more a few hours in
> advance of the meeting. Basically, council members haven't responded to
> these items on the mailing list, and that's what needs to happen.
For a
x27;t end up saving anything at all once
you have a consistency check anyway.
Halcy0n also mentioned that this gets really annoying when USE flags
inherited from eclasses change. You'd need to edit every metadata.xml of
all inheriting packages.
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of licenses are the same. That means if we're enabling
& encouraging our users to infringe copyrights or patents by providing
ebuilds that do so, we may be guilty of the same.
IANAL and all that.
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do multiple things on the back end?
If there's actually reasons for these things to be very narrow, I'd like
to see easily usable meta-properties that let people easily say
something like "I've got a live CVS ebuild" without specifying 20
different PROPERTIES.
There's a council meeting in an hour and a half. Here's an agenda, it's
all leftovers from last meeting.
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There are no new topics. EAPI 2 approval hasn't yet been r
dback is welcome!
Great, thanks! For future reference, please get in touch with me to talk
about new desktop subprojects.
Let me know whether there's anything I can do as desktop lead to make
your work easier.
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nk?
Yes, an override is OK iff it remains consistent with the global
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hat really
> matters is whether or not the majority of people see it as a useful
> extension.
I'm not writing new ebuilds from scratch or changing SRC_URI of existing
ebuilds so often (especially those with this particular requirement)
that there's any meaningful barrier to using ar
ngs about ebuilds is that they're very natural to
write in most cases, if you can manage to build the program by hand.
Raising this barrier of entry for questionable benefit seems like a bad
idea. We don't need to make it any harder to begin contributing to
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On 23:13 Mon 08 Sep , Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:33:50 -0700
> Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 12:46 Sun 07 Sep , Marcus D. Hanwell wrote:
> > > I personally agree with several others who have replied to this
> > &g
is that
we document our appeals process.
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meetings posted. My wife & I just
had a baby last week and things have been hectic around here for a
while.
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Roll call
=
betelgeuse
dberkholz
dertobi123
halcy0n
jokey
lu_zer
milar to how upstream handles it. The SLOT still allows for useful
dependencies, and people installing "any icedtea" will automatically get
the newest one without having to somehow choose which of multiple
package names is right.
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versioning system that doesn't
suck?
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PI (perhaps in the same appendix): approved, draft, or
in progress.
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list must be
notified at least 14 days before the meeting itself.
For more info on the Gentoo Council, feel free to browse our homepage:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/
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On 23:13 Mon 22 Sep , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote
> on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev
> list to see.
Here's what I've got so far --
- Approving EAPI=2
- The
On 08:56 Tue 23 Sep , Zac Medico wrote:
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> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote
> > on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whol
appropriate ARCH flags
> for all of the 2008.0 profiles. Does this seem reasonable?
Yes, and don't the arch profiles already have base as a parent?
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rg instead of
irc.freenode.net.
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holding up our open bugs. I intend to work on bug #237381 ("Document
appeals process").
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On 13:56 Mon 13 Oct , Petteri Räty wrote:
> Could you also send a diff next time.
Or this time, even. +1 on that.
One easy thing to do is move what comments exist to the eclass-manpages
format.
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s to EAPI=0, they wouldn't be voted on. Since EAPI=0
isn't actually approved yet, council wouldn't vote either. As it's a
draft standard, this would be resolved amongst package-manager
developers and PMS editors.
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On 20:20 Mon 13 Oct , Wulf C. Krueger wrote:
> On Monday, 13. October 2008 19:42:21 Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > Since EAPI=0 isn't actually approved yet, council wouldn't vote
> > either. As it's a draft standard, this would be resolved amongst
> > packag
to the EAPI=0 ebuild
- Stabilize portage quickly
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initially) the default will be "X". Which means the default is the same
> as what we've got today. If it's set to an empty string, it'll always be
> required. Otherwise, it will use the supplied USE flag.
I'm not sure whether this would work, but one idea would be to handle
dependencies depending on what's in IUSE of the ebuild inheriting.
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