On 23:17 Thu 31 Jul     , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd/4th
> Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @
> irc.freenode.net) !
> 
> If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote
> on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev
> list to see.

Here's a rough agenda. I'll hash it out a bit more a few hours in 
advance of the meeting. Basically, council members haven't responded to 
these items on the mailing list, and that's what needs to happen.

Ferris, I didn't list the CoC enforcement topic because as you suggest, 
there are lots of open questions. Perhaps we can spice up the thread on 
-council again.

-- 
Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Developer, Gentoo Linux
Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com
New topics
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Reactions to dev banned from freenode
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rane:
I'd like to ask Council to discuss possible reactions to our developer 
being banned from Freenode without providing us with a reason. ... It 
would be good if Council officially protested against that ban and 
demanded a detailed explanation from Freenode staff.


Moving meetings to a location we control
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rane:
I want Council to consider moving their meetings somewhere where third 
parties can't control who in Gentoo can attend and who can't. Like our 
own small and created just for this purpose IRC server.


Favor irc.gentoo.org alias in docs, etc
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rane:
I want Council to consider creating and using irc.gentoo.org alias 
instead of irc.freenode.net in our docs, news items and so on. The alias 
would allow us to move out of the network more easily should we ever 
decide to do so.


Why aren't fired developers banned from the channels where they 
displayed this behavior?
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yngwin:
It really baffles me that some developers are forcefully retired for 
anti-social behavior, but are not consequently banned from the places 
where they display this behavior, such as our MLs and IRC channels. What 
good is it to retire developers, but allow them to continue to be 
disruptive? I would like the Council to decide for a change in our 
policy on this point.


PMS as a draft standard of EAPI 0
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spb:
It should be treated as a draft standard, and any deviations from it 
found in the gentoo tree or package managers should have a bug filed 
against either the deviator or PMS to resolve the differences.

Alternatively, what (specific) changes are required to PMS before such a 
statement can be made?

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