present in both packages.
Users might better be pointed to the perl script
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/dvb/get_dvb_firmware
instead.
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t/svn/cvs head.
If a live ebuild fetches a particular revision, then the disadvantage is
still that it can't be mirrored (hence a snapshot is preferable from user
POV), but other than that it can be tested fine.
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@ list which adds this as
> an optional step in the catalyst livecd2 target in a nice way, and
> file a bug with updated ebuilds for catalyst which add the dependency.
Bug was already reported some time ago
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=251719
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ssible to boot UEFI systems in
EFI mode. Until then, one of the other boot loaders (rEFIt, GRUB 2,
ELILO) might be used.
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kernel
parameters during boot. But it might still be an acceptable stopgap
measure if the alternative is to not boot at all.
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n-customized kernels as well as customized
hand-configured kernels using that method.
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ave to be specified at
build time instead of runtime. With a customized kernel you typically set
CONFIG_CMDLINE="root=PARTUUID=..." or similar.
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Greg KH schrieb:
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:21:29AM +0100, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
>> Greg KH schrieb:
>>>> No, all we need is to enable EFI stub support in the kernel, and
>>>> integrate the initramfs using CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE and place it in
&g
from the hardware vendor, for which no
Gentoo package ever existed.
> There seems to be a pretty high number of unmaintained packages in the tree
> if you look at hwoarang's
response to this thread, so I'm not sure how that is going.
Not all maintainer-needed packages are neglected, broken or useless.
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em, and a sync will
restore them.
> Should we really put them under /var/cache which suggests that
> everything in there can be wiped?
Yes.
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XFree86 or LILO,
Using LILO is still documented as an alternative to GRUB:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10#doc_chap3
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ential in practice. Bugmail will be sent
to both assignee and CC:. Only for maintainers without bugzilla privileges
they need to ping their proxy to make certain updates to the bug.
x11 team has similar instructions in the metadata for their proxy
maintained package.
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for
arm users.
[4.6/ICE] in simplify_gen_subreg_concatn, at lower-subreg.c:489
(x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.8.0)
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=401561
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Greg KH schrieb:
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:21:29AM +0100, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
>> Greg KH schrieb:
>>>> No, all we need is to enable EFI stub support in the kernel, and
>>>> integrate the initramfs using CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE and place it in
&g
that come from upstream but are not part of Qt
itself, if such packages exist or are going to exist? Did you entertain
the idea of having qt-base (for qt-core, qt-gui, ...) and qt-extra (for
qca, qwt, ...) categories? This would also address Diego's comment.
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Andreas K. Huettel schrieb:
> * move setting USE=dri and USE=cups from default/linux/make.defaults to
> targets/desktop/make.defaults
I would prefer to keep USE=dri in the default profile.
If you want to move VIDEO_CARDS that would be fine with me though.
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ctive packages are installed,
and not depending on the profile the user has selected.
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Markos Chandras schrieb:
> On 18 January 2013 23:29, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
> wrote:
>> Because it should be enabled when the respective packages are
>> installed, and not depending on the profile the user has selected.
> Hell, as discussed, the base profile should
ication that the number of
developers chiming in would be used for decision making.
If consensus was not required for this decision, then why bother
reaching it at all?
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Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn schrieb:
>>> * move setting USE=dri from default/linux/make.defaults to
>>> targets/desktop/make.defaults
>> +1 by dilfridge, djc, kensington, vapier, pesa, hwoarang
>> chitanh, titanofold, zerochaos wants to keep this in default profil
Ben de Groot schrieb:
> On 20 January 2013 23:22, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
> wrote:
>> Andreas K. Huettel schrieb:
>>>> * move setting USE=dri from default/linux/make.defaults to
>>>> targets/desktop/make.defaults
>> I must say that I am unhappy a
om the profiles
entirely. Having it only in the desktop profile is not good in any
scenario I can think of.
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Mike Frysinger schrieb:
> On Sunday 20 January 2013 10:54:55 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
>> Yes, I mentioned this in another post already. We can use EAPI=1 IUSE
>> defaults instead. But this will not change any systems so I fail to
>> see the point behind this. This w
hanges makes the
PM implementation harder or causes additional work, please point this
out so it can be addressed.
Personally I wouldn't mind waiting until the next council meeting and
keep all changes in the x11 overlay until then.
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Alec Warner schrieb:
> Can you even guarantee that /boot is mounted when your package is
> installed? That would be my major concern on Gentoo...
And that /boot is the EFI system partition...
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resent
during early boot.
But unlike the Intel wifi driver which used to stop working and detach
from the device when firmware loading failed, most other drivers will
reattempt to load firmware every time on bringing up the interface.
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0-firmware
zd1201-firmware
zd1211-firmware
About the others, losing them is not too dramatic.
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d of USE defaults, this could be turned on in the desktop
profile as wifi, radeon cards etc. are less likely to be present on
non-desktop systems.
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ery time new firmware is
added this would have to be updated.
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re package.
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Diego Elio Pettenò schrieb:
> On 13/02/2013 14:38, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/457082
>> Instead of USE defaults, this could be turned on in the desktop
>> profile as wifi, radeon cards etc. are less likely to be present on
>> non-d
n is to have it for virtual/linux-sources.
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n opinion, but a couple of notes:
>
> 1. Kernel's "make modules_install" triggers "make firmware_install",
> which installs a strict subset of linux-firmware (for enabled modules
> — e.g., "3com/typhoon.bin"). A way to work around that is to supply
> INSTALL_FW_PATH=... to make.
Most if not all such conflicts can be avoided by USE="deblob"
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ls or metapackages, with as few
exceptions as possible.
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EOL'ed the
chipsets, it is unlikely that the firmware will ever be updated again.
So technically there is no necessity to keep them.
On the non-technical side, there are users who prefer them over the
linux-firmware package and will be upset if we remove them.
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re with the desired
filename(s) and emerge linux-firmware with USE="savedconfig" enabled.
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nstall sys-firmware/iwl6000-ucode to see which file was the
> right one.
Which exact firmware file you need also depends on your kernel version.
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ou don't force user to
> install git or other scm tools unless they need them.
Problem is that the tarball cannot be redistributed by us. Now what?
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he download of
non-redistributable firmware. Possibly SRC_URI for the
non-redistributable files can point to upstream gitweb. Although I don't
know happy upstream will be when hordes of Gentoo users start hammering
their servers.
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as a direct download
link from upstream exists (via gitweb).
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piled with. So if you want to know
about the state of GLX/OpenGL acceleration for x86 applications, you
will need x86 glxinfo.
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lowed
within 10
> feet of any system with a tree checkout on it. 30 feet if you're also
> suggesting it should be disabled by default.
Not that I care about nvidia-drivers, but how about "Increase kernel
compatibility at the cost of a supportable system".
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# Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn (11 Mar 2013)
# Does not build against modern xorg-server, dead upstream
# Removal in 30 days
x11-drivers/xf86-input-citron
moving
around.
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d
zeroconf like UPnP/SSDP?
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good thing. If you agree with me, what could be done
here? Have pax-mark die in the eclass or mandate || die in ebuilds? This
would probably require pax-mark calls to be conditional on pax_kernel USE
flag or similar.
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the near term.
What I think is bad is the automagic aspect of enabling pax-mark.
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work correctly in Portage, could you please elucidate?
It's illegal because it calls "use" in global scope and modifies SLOT based
on the result.
It is not correctly handled by portage, as you can test by
# USE="multislot" emerge -pv gcc:4.6.3
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.
When someone asks about changing a package which someone else maintains, I
always suggest reporting a bug about it. Do you think that is generally ok,
or not the proper way to communicate?
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es.
But if you think that is not the case, we can ask council to clarify whether
a change announced in bugzilla counts as proper communication with the
maintainer.
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t be downloaded from the GENTOO_MIRRORS.
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etapackages or rare exceptions.
I suggest to include gentoo-oldnet (or whatever name you choose for
it) in the @system set once it is stable, and until then be a hard
dependency of OpenRC.
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ich modify config files for the user, or those where symlinks are managed
without an equivalent editing of configuration files, or where symlinks are
managed in an upstream approved way.
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ocation and not the symlink
(or have a backup entry ready, but then any gains from switching symlinks
are negated).
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future EAPI (like
doinitd today) and make portage install them unless FEATURES="nounit"
(like nodoc/noinfo/noman today).
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gt;> Another option would be to add a "dounit" command to a future EAPI (like
>> doinitd today) and make portage install them unless FEATURES="nounit"
>> (like nodoc/noinfo/noman today).
> Why all this mess!?
Please elaborate why you think that a "dounit" command is a mess.
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Mike Gilbert schrieb:
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
> wrote:
>> Fabio Erculiani schrieb:
>>> Or perhaps all these man pages, I don't need man pages locally but
>>> still most ebuilds do install them. What do we do?
>> User
s crashed when it
actually hasn't. Then it launches another instance, effectively creating a
forkbomb.
Though proper use of cgroups does prevent this.
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a
buffer overflow or similar vulnerability. If you enable automatic respawn
then congratulations, you just gave the attacker unlimited tries to guess
the correct address/offset for his exploit.
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get packages
> become stable, which are not intended to become so and should have
> never been there.
This is why the maintainer can object within 30 days (or so) or block
the stabilization bug with another one which details the reasons why the
package should not be stabilized.
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is willing to do the work to maintain it (as a developer or proxy) and
> it doesn't hurt conventional users, we should cooperate.
With x32, I generally refused to apply the patches to x11 maintained packages
before they had upstream ack first.
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EFI stub kernels just need init=/sbin/ in CONFIG_CMDLINE in
order to use the wrapper.
However, in case of breakage in the wrapper, you would need to boot a
fallback kernel or access the EFI shell (not all UEFI implementations allow
the latter).
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way).
> I'm not aware of GNOME 3.8 having a hard requirement on logind. Could
> you please show where that is?
The bug report about this issue states to which extent GNOME 3.8 needs
logind, and contains pointers to the relevant commits.
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=464944
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;t think a usable
free replacement exists yet).
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lx users on
headless machines (bug 409925 might address this to some degree).
You are right that using always Xvfb would be much less annoying to
someone running tests on his desktop computer.
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Mike Pagano schrieb:
> Team members working alongside upstream (and downstream) developer Greg k-h
> have decided to no longer request stabilization of the vanilla sources
> kernel.
How about dropping vanilla-sources and adding a "vanilla" USE flag to
gentoo-sources?
Best
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Alexander Berntsen schrieb:
> On 27/07/13 10:56, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
>> How about dropping vanilla-sources and adding a "vanilla" USE flag to
>> gentoo-sources?
> Then we might as well just have a Linux
body seemed to be against setting LC_MESSAGES in make.conf.
I reported a bug now.
https://bugs.gentoo.org/478382
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it, then Gentoo can do it, too. So would you accept ebuild
patches that make it possible to install Gnome 3.8 without systemd again?
Only make it possible, not turn it into a configuration which the Gnome team
supports.
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ted. systemd could then be package.use.force'd in the base profile and
only un-forced in a special gnome-nosystemd profile, which contains a
profile.bashrc warning (like from the server profile) that tells users to not
report any bugs about Gnome.
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e extra
actions that acknowledge that his configuration is unsupported.
Question is, which solutions are acceptable to the Gnome team? :)
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enrc (baselayout).
I think there may be a misunderstanding here. He only said that if you
want to run Gnome 3.8, then switch to systemd. Because the Gnome team
will not support any other configuration.
He did not say that everyone should install systemd, nor that you need
to support such a configuration.
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ishes to, within
limitations set by policy.
And when a package is 30 days in tree and there is no objection from QA
or security teams then it can go stable.
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tware where a 32
bit toolchain would run into address space limitations.
Those who suffer most currently are browser folks, who resorted to some
tricks and workarounds[1] to stay afloat a little longer. FWIW, the problem
is not limited to Linux[2].
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[1] htt
yourself."
This is only if the maintainer does not respond. In this case the
maintainer made it clear that he didn't want those patches before they were
submitted (not necessarily accepted) upstream.
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table branch
> (before the platform changes too much).
At least for x11 maintained packages, we don't support mixing of stable and
unstable parts of X in the way that you suggest.
We don't mind however whether the rest of the system is stable or not.
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d not stable. Whether you call what is not stable
"unstable" or "testing" does not matter, as Gentoo does not
differentiate between the two. FWIW, I think that using the word testing
implies some sort of path to stable, which is not the case with many
packages. I prefer to say uns
ever be a candidate for stable it doesn't belong in the tree."
>
There was an extensive discussion about this topic (whether packages
unfit or not intended for stable should enter ~arch, or even the tree)
some time ago, which I don't plan to restart. Suffice to say, consensus
was not reached.
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nfortunately it was a
lengthy process to allow him access to the overlay but that was cleared
10 days ago.
Once he starts pushing new ebuilds to the overlay, I will add him as
proxy maintainer in metadata.xml.
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[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.
Due to voip lack of active maintainers:
Not co-maintained with anyone else:
dev-libs/jrtplib
media-libs/libj2k
media-libs/libmimic
net-libs/iax
net-libs/sofia-sip
net-misc/asterisk-rate_engine
net-misc/asterisk-spandsp_codec_g726
net-misc/astmanproxy
net-misc/ser
net-misc/sipsak
net-misc/sjphone
e name as the other
> sets)?
I suggest that you add a "large" USE flag, and if it is enabled, download
and install the whole thing. If disabled, just print the URLs in a log
message, so the user can download themselves if they wish.
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ive about kickbanning people (ops enough, after all).
We had -m for a short period this year already. AFAIR users then came
into the channel and asked support or ebuild development questions, so
it was reverted to +m.
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binaries,
> packages :/
>
> - Samuli
>
For ImageMagick specifically, the MAGICK_OCL_DEVICE environment variable
could be set per[1].
Another option would be to hide the existence of the GPU OpenCL device
from the applications using the OCL_ICD_VENDORS variable.
Best
onal
package sys-power/upower-1 which makes openrc users transition to
sys-power/upower-pm-utils and systemd users to sys-power/upower-systemd
or something similar.
And please keep such changes out of stable until proper documentation is
in place (and the 30 day period has elapsed, etc.)
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Samuli Suominen schrieb:
> On 03/06/14 17:45, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
>> Samuli Suominen schrieb:
>>> On 03/06/14 16:53, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>>> So, I get why you did it, but my concern is that when you tell
>>>> portage that non-systemd
not strictly used for
SSL but also for other forms of crypto (e.g. [1]).
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[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=512664
forcing SSL provider match between
> packages. Wasn't this thread initially about curl and rtmpdump
> requiring matching flags?
It could be enforced if an eclass does the actual choice of crypto
provider in a reproducible way. That would be not trivial though.
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Michał Górny schrieb:
> Dnia 2014-06-11, o godz. 15:30:26
> Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn napisał(a):
>
>>> 3. There is no clean way of enforcing SSL provider match between
>>> packages. Wasn't this thread initially about curl and rtmpdump
>>> requiring m
ntrusive options than hardmask, such as pkg_pretend()
check or blocking offending packages from cross-${CTARGET} category.
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also want to
> enjoy the multi-touch functions, but this is not supported.
Check your kernel configuration that CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2_ALPS is enabled.
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ca@valencia-racv USE_EXPAND to LINGUAS or is
there a better solution? Should LINGUAS try to imitate POSIX or BCP-47?
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lugins/gnash which is one of the principal users of agg.
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Stanislav Ochotnicky schrieb:
> On 05/25/2010 01:39 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
>
>> Torsten Veller schrieb:
>>
>>> media-video/linux-uvc
>>>
>>>
>> I guess this package can be treecleaned, since current kernels co
previous
AdobeFlash-10 license is similar in this regard, and could possibly also
be added to that group.
One notable section is 7.6 in which Adobe reserves the right to download
and install additional Content Protection software on the user's PC.
Your thoughts?
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will include VA-API support and other
improvements.
- lightspark: a recent effort which is in its early stages and still
incomplete in many ways (eg. audio support is planned for 0.4.2)
None of them I consider good enough to replace adobe-flash for the
average user.
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l"
enable ssl?
The USE flag was renamed after discussion with upstream. Gnash does not
provide any SSL implementation itself and (when invoked as NPAPI plugin)
uses the browser's facilities. Possibly I could make more explicit that
users only interested in the plugin don't need it.
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ion to
the tree. As this is the first eselect module I have written, I would
welcome your comments and pointers.
TODO:
* Add support for switching emul-linux-x86-opengl on amd64 multilib
* Accept numbers as do_set() arguments
* Make the code a bit more compact
Untested:
* Prefix support
Bes
generic as variable name? Also the local x, y, z
variables could be named a bit more obvious.
Will fix.
I would welcome more if constructs instead of&&, as it makes the code
more readable.
Ok, I am going to change this.
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