Re: [gentoo-dev] July Council Meeting: Requested Agenda Item

2006-06-11 Thread Alec Warner
Donnie Berkholz wrote: Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 01:13:36PM +0100, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: To take an example, there were made up quotes in my GWN interview, however, nothing of great harm. I believe that time it was a case of attempting to make it more fun, it is

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 (News) revisited

2006-06-12 Thread Alec Warner
Stephen Bennett wrote: Since GLEP 42's original author and sponsor has left the project, I've taken it over, and would like to have another go at getting it implemented. I've just updated the version in CVS[1], which should be making its way onto the www nodes, but with any luck the full text sho

Re: [gentoo-dev] backups: remove Portage cruft?

2006-06-12 Thread Alec Warner
Joerg Plate wrote: Do make sure you back up the base /var/cache/edb/ Why? Anything in /var/cache doesn't need to be in a backup, because it can be generated when necessary (in theory...) in theory, yes; in practice there are a couple of files you may not want to destroy (mtimedb, counter) -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defining the Tree: a proto-GLEP.

2006-06-12 Thread Alec Warner
Daniel Ostrow wrote: On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 19:04 -0400, Luis Francisco Araujo wrote: Stephen Bennett wrote: Continuing in the series of issues raised during the previous package manager discussions, I'd like to continue by mentioning the tree format. At present, it isn't defined beyond "what

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sharing portage?

2006-06-13 Thread Alec Warner
Jonathan Adamczewski wrote: Molle Bestefich wrote: Hi Follow-up question to the backup thingy. Is there an easy way to share Portage's database between multiple virtual machines? Optimally, I would emerge --sync and the results would land in a filesystem that I'd share between VMs, so I don'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Did portage 2.1 change default use flags?

2006-06-14 Thread Alec Warner
Duncan wrote: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:57:08 -0400: On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:08:03 +0200, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Monday 12 June 2006 12:57, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Monday 12 June 2006 12:42, Peter wrote: All of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Did portage 2.1 change default use flags?

2006-06-14 Thread Alec Warner
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Wednesday 14 June 2006 14:42, Alec Warner wrote: * autouse (use.defaults) has been deprecated by specifying USE_ORDER in make.defaults. Users may still turn this back on by specifying USE_ORDER="env:pkg:conf:auto:defaults" in make.conf. Interested in fi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork.

2006-06-14 Thread Alec Warner
Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 09:18:57AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: I would have *no problem* with an opt-in system. Instead of using "InOverlay" (which is a poor choice anyway... which overlay?) as some sort of tag, instead, assign the package to the project which ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Did portage 2.1 change default use flags?

2006-06-14 Thread Alec Warner
Peter wrote: On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 10:59:12 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Wednesday 14 June 2006 14:42, Alec Warner wrote: * autouse (use.defaults) has been deprecated by specifying USE_ORDER in make.defaults. Users may still turn this back on by specifying

[gentoo-dev] Herds suck, fix them

2006-06-14 Thread Alec Warner
So apparently they suck, anyone have a new shiny idea on how to group packages and maintaining developers? -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Changes to the way Java packages are built

2006-06-18 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duncan wrote: > Joshua Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], > excerpted below, on Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:39:06 -0500: > >> I have written documentation on switching to the new system, from the >> user's perspective, over at our wiki [6]

[gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-19 Thread Alec Warner
Portage currently exports $KV as the current kernel version. We detect this by attempting to mess around with the things in /usr/src/linux (.config, make files, etc...) This is duplicating the superb efforts of the kernel team and of linux-info eclass. As such I would like to deprecate $KV i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-19 Thread Alec Warner
Georgi Georgiev wrote: maillog: 19/06/2006-11:13:33(+): Alec Warner types Portage currently exports $KV as the current kernel version. We detect this by attempting to mess around with the things in /usr/src/linux (.config, make files, etc...) This is duplicating the superb efforts of

Re: [gentoo-dev] GWN Comments

2006-06-19 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tobias Klausmann wrote: > Hi! > > On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Caleb Tennis wrote: >> I'd like to propose some form of ability to post user comments >> to GWN stories. I suppose a full blown CMS system would work, >> but for the ease of time I'm suggesting

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-gfx/inkscape: ChangeLog inkscape-0.46-r1.ebuild

2008-03-16 Thread Alec Warner
On 3/16/08, Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:51:12 +0100 > Dawid Węgliński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Not if COPYING file is inside $DOCS and is installed in the loop. > > > Doing something like this would work as well (and go equally unnoticed): > > local

[gentoo-dev] Again, GSOC Mentor Signup is open, please apply soon.

2008-03-23 Thread Alec Warner
I'm about to start talking to all the mentors about this years GSOC event. If you would like to be a mentor[1] please sign up[2] now. We currently have six mentors who have applied and I have only confirmed four of them. I expect to take on only (number of mentors) / 2 projects, which means only

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS (Was: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?)

2008-05-31 Thread Alec Warner
On 5/31/08, Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Volkov wrote: > > > В Птн, 30/05/2008 в 20:28 -0700, Brian Harring пишет: > > > > > Either way, basically it's coming down to if gentoo wants to follow the > definition of 'academic' right, or 'pragmatic' right. Exempting ciaran, vote > se

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for June

2008-06-01 Thread Alec Warner
On 01 Jun 2008 05:30:01, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically > the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel > (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! > > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for June

2008-06-02 Thread Alec Warner
On 6/1/08, Richard Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: > > > On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 19:41:28 +0200 > > Raúl Porcel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > IMHO the packages should be keyworded if an arch team member or an > > > user of that arch requests it. Keywording something if

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-06 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Alex Howells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/6/5 Ali Polatel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> I want to nominate: >> >> Fernando J. Pereda -- "ferdy" >> Bo Ørsted Andresen -- "zlin" >> > > Is there a method for objecting to a nomination, kinda like the > opposite of sec

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June

2008-06-12 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doug Goldstein wrote: >> >> Doug Goldstein wrote: >>> >>> Brian Harring wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 03:06:17AM +, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > This is your one-day friendly reminder ! The monthly

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: package.mask

2008-06-23 Thread Alec Warner
2008/6/22 Peter Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 15:49 +0200, Alin Nstac wrote: >> Peter Volkov wrote: >> > В Сбт, 21/06/2008 в 10:56 +0200, Albert Zeyer пишет: >> > >> >> Perhaps install a script which automatically takes the CVS comment when >> >> some of these files is changed

Re: [gentoo-dev] sci-libs/scipy -> dev-python/scipy ?

2008-07-07 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> I actually object to having crap in dev-python, because things should be >> categorized functionally instead of by the language they're implemented >> in. 90% of the time you don't care about the lan

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tags vs. categories (was: sci-libs/scipy -> dev-python/scip)

2008-07-08 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Josh Saddler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alec Warner wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Donnie Berkholz wrote: >>>> >>>> I a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: sci-libs/scipy -> dev-python/scipy ?

2008-07-08 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:02:37 -0700 > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I don't think it's worth losing track of the CVS history just so we >> can have something in a different place that ultimately is hardly >> usef

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for July

2008-07-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 01:40 Wed 09 Jul , Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> On 05:30 Tue 01 Jul , Mike Frysinger wrote: >> > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even >> > vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 July 2008

2008-07-13 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:11:18 -0700 > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> GLEP 55: On hold pending a concrete requirement for it. GLEP 54 may >> be, but that's unclear until it's been revised. > > Which part of t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 July 2008

2008-07-13 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Ciaran McCreesh > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:11:18 -0700 >> Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> GLEP 55:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 July 2008

2008-07-13 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:16:23 -0700 > "Alec Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> As far as could be determined by the members at the meeting there no >> compelling examples in

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-python/mako: ChangeLog mako-0.1.10-r1.ebuild mako-0.1.10.ebuild

2008-07-14 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 5:17 AM, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 03:27 Mon 14 Jul , Alec Warner (antarus) wrote: >> antarus 08/07/14 03:27:17 >> >> Modified: ChangeLog >> Added:mako-0.1.10-r1.ebuild >&

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: RFC: auto-detection of unpack dependencies

2008-07-15 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Tiziano Müller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Patrick Börjesson wrote: > >> On 2008-07-15 21:40, Tiziano Müller uttered these thoughts: >>> Marius Mauch wrote: >>> >>> > As a result of Cardoes earlier mail we talked a bit about possible >>> > solutions in #gento-porta

Re: [gentoo-dev] system set no longer in part of world set

2008-07-19 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Markus Rothe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Bridge wrote: >> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:30:20 +0200 >> Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > IMHO it would be better to teach users to explicitly specify >> > '@system' during updates

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: Make developer profiles more difficult to select

2008-07-20 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reading around on the net, it amazes me how many people are using developer > profiles for their Gentoo because they think it's for software developers > and don't see that it's for Gentoo developers and not intended f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for July 24

2008-07-24 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 17:26 Mon 21 Jul , Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> Here's the list of ongoing items from 2 weeks ago: >> http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_bb3a3a0c1b0acb771a263294a67b722e.xml >> >> Here's the council summary fro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions

2008-07-28 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Ulrich Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Doug Goldstein wrote: > >> After a category is converted, it will be auto-generated EXCLUSIVELY >> from metadata.xml. > > A minor issue: use.local.desc is not sorted properly anymore. > It should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7

2008-08-04 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Stephen Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote >> on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev >> list to see. > > I would like to put forward the following suggestion for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7

2008-08-05 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:06:11 -0700 > "Alec Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Stephen Bennett >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7

2008-08-05 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:16:25 -0700 > "Alec Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So assuming the council says we should fix all these issues (and in >> most cases I would support tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New PROPERTIES=interactive value to identify interactive packages?

2008-08-06 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:22 AM, Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello again, > > Please consider a new PROPERTIES=interactive setting that allows an > ebuild to indicate that it uses stdin and stdout for user > interaction sometime during

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New PROPERTIES=interactive value to identify interactive packages?

2008-08-06 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Jeremy Olexa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Please consider a new PROPERTIES=interactive setting that allows an >> ebuild to indicate that it uses stdin and stdout for user > > I don't think anyone will disagree with this one. The one problem that I see > is that if t

Re: [gentoo-dev] FEATURES=-userpriv and testcases that fail as root or a user

2008-08-07 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Robin H. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More than a year ago, I had my first occurrence of a package that > refused to work when run as root: dev-db/mysql. This lead to the following > block of code in the src_test block: > > if [[ $UID -eq 0 ]]; then >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jeeves IRC replacement now alive - Willikins

2008-08-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Robin H. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi folks, > > Sorry that it's taken this long to get completed, but the Jeeves > replacement, Willikins, is finally 99% done, and ready to join lots of > channels. > > Getting the bot out there > -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

2008-08-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> >> On 00:26 Mon 11 Aug , Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: >>> >>> My retirement is probably long overdue as I haven't really been active >>> for several months. It is now clear to me that Gentoo i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [RFC] What features should be included in EAPI 2?

2008-08-21 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:27:03 +0100 >> Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:31:17 +0530 >>> > Arun Raghavan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >> Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Usages of CVS $Header$ keyword in ebuilds - use cases wanted

2008-08-27 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Fabian Groffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 27-08-2008 10:28:57 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 06:35:57PM +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote: >> > For that reason I'd pretty much prefer to keep the CVS Header in place, >> > unless there is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] EAPI 2 Draft

2008-09-05 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > David Leverton wrote: >> 2008/9/5 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> Both approaches are essentially equivalent but it's a little simpler >>> for ebuild writer if they don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about stabilization requests

2008-09-05 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Robert R. Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some of the packages that I use are ~arch keyworded right now and I was > wanting to ask some questions about when to file stabilization requests and > about how much information needs to be provided when filling them.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Ability to pass arguments to src_configure/src_compile

2008-09-06 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Thomas Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, >Currently we have a lot of: >src_configure() { >econf $(use_enable dvdr) \ >$(use_with ipv6 ssl) \ >--wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Ability to pass arguments to src_configure/src_compile

2008-09-06 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Thomas Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, >>Currently we have a lot of: >>src_configure() { >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] EAPI 2 Draft

2008-09-06 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christian Faulhammer wrote: > >> Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> Both approaches are essentially equivalent but it's a little simpler >>> for ebuild writer if they don't have to customize the output file >>> name. >> >> On

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Ability to pass arguments to src_configure/src_compile

2008-09-08 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Vaeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Yes. And here another point should be brought up. This proposal should >> be wider and consider similar changes for the most common used >> operations on all phases. > > And in fact, the most common used operations on all phases

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Ability to pass arguments to src_configure/src_compile

2008-09-08 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Santiago M. Mola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Most obvious failure cases these days have build logs and the build >> logs will specify what the conf

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Ability to pass arguments to src_configure/src_compile

2008-09-08 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 23:13 Mon 08 Sep , Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:33:50 -0700 >> Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On 12:46 Sun 07 Sep , Marcus D. Hanwell wrote: >> > > I personally agree with sev

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [RFC] EAPI 2 Draft

2008-09-08 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alec Warner wrote: > >> On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> Christian Faulhammer wrote: >>> >>>> Zac Medico <[EMAIL PR

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Default src_install for EAPI-2 or following EAPI

2008-09-21 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Vaeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Long wrote: > >> Thomas Sachau wrote: [...] >> >> > [[ -n ${DOCS} ]] && dodoc ${DOCS} > [...] >> >> It might be wise to use an array for DOCS there > > Since I have now seen suggestions for using arrays unnecessarily > at le

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Default src_install for EAPI-2 or following EAPI

2008-09-23 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Bo Ørsted Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 23 September 2008 21:39:52 Thomas Sachau wrote: >> default_src_install() { >> if [ -f Makefile -o -f GNUmakefile -o -f makefile ]; then >> if emake DESTDIR="${D} install || einstall ;

Re: [gentoo-dev] Testing is not a valid reason to package.mask

2008-10-02 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > # Gen 2 Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (`date`) > # Masked for testing. >>=rofl-cat/omgpkg-ver > > > Please people, > > > if you want to get something tested, then don't mask it.If you find > that you cannot commit an ebui

Re: [gentoo-dev] Testing is not a valid reason to package.mask

2008-10-03 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 04:23:33 +0200 > Dawid Węgliński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I don't think it's ok. ~arch isn't training ground. It's supposed to >> work, so asking arch teams to keywords packages that are not suppos

Re: [gentoo-dev] Testing is not a valid reason to package.mask

2008-10-03 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 5:06 AM, Thomas Sachau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alec Warner schrieb: >> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 04:23:33 +0200 >>> Dawid Węgliński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [RFC] Label profiles with EAPI for compatibility checks

2008-10-04 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi everyone, > > Please consider a new "eapi" profile configuration file that will > designate the EAPI to which any package atoms within a given layer > of the profile stack

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects without a homepage, and valid contents of HOMEPAGE (per bug 239268)

2008-10-05 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Thilo Bangert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 03:44:20 -0700 >> >> "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Either we need special cases to declare that it no longer has a >> > homepage, or we nee

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for October

2008-10-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:25:55 -0500 > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 05:30 Wed 01 Oct , Mike Frysinger wrote: >> > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even >> > vote on, let us

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 2 is brokened :(

2008-10-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 15:22:19 -0700 > Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So where exactly is this "sky is falling" issue you're worried >> about? Bugs happen. > > It means anyone using EAPI 2 now is going to encount

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI-2 and src_configure in eclasses

2008-10-10 Thread Alec Warner
I don't want to be the guy that kicks people off lists; but I will do it; so keep the thread on topic[0] and be nice[1]. I know everyone here is capable of that. Feel free to sling the personal crap comments somewhere more appropriate (such as a personal diary, blog, or in verbal complaints to a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI-2 and src_configure in eclasses

2008-10-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 5:41 AM, Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Alec Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted > below, on Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:17:14 -0700: > >> Consider this your first and last warning from Userrel. > >

[gentoo-dev] net-nds/nis-utils needs a maintainer or it will get removed.

2008-10-10 Thread Alec Warner
If you don't use NIS or NIS+ you can stop reading now; if you do use NIS or NIS+...I'm so so sorry. The basic gist is "this package is old and everyone should move to LDAP." Consider it masked in two weeks for removal in 30 days unless a maintainer is found. -Alec

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilize ebuilds which use EAPIs only supported by ~arch PMs

2008-10-14 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch kirjoitti: >> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:59:39 +0200 >> Jose Luis Rivero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 05:38:34PM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 02:03 Tue 14 Oct , Jose Luis Ri

Re: [gentoo-dev] [v4] Planning for automatic assignment computation of bugs

2008-10-19 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Robin H. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now into it's Nth great year, I bring you the fourth edition of the > automatic assignment proposal. > > Previously: > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/48485 [v1] > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.g

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] [project] Re: [RFC] some global useflags

2008-10-19 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: >> Steve Long wrote: >>> Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>> > Steve Long wrote: >>> >> > Have a look at, for example, [1], where Mike already gave you an >>> >> > answer one of the previous times we discussed it. >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving packages -- breaking the tree or stop updating mirrors?

2008-11-16 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Torsten Veller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is time to finish the move of some new dual-lifed perl modules > from dev-perl to perl-core (plus virtual/). It involves updating of > 120 packages all over the tree but mostly in dev-perl. > > As this takes some time t

[gentoo-dev] Do you use repoman (lfull|last)?

2008-11-19 Thread Alec Warner
If you *use* or *want* to keep this mode of repoman; please comment on the bug[1]. If you do *not* use or do *not* want to keep this mode of repoman, do nothing. This is an informal means to see if anyone is using repoman full or repoman lfull; if it turns out not I hope to cut a patch to remove

[gentoo-dev] Re: Do you use repoman (lfull|last)?

2008-11-19 Thread Alec Warner
On 11/19/08, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you *use* or *want* to keep this mode of repoman; please comment on > the bug[1]. > > If you do *not* use or do *not* want to keep this mode of repoman, do > nothing. > > This is an informal means to see if a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Remember: workarounds don't warrant RESO FIXED!

2008-11-19 Thread Alec Warner
On 11/17/08, Peter Volkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > В Вск, 16/11/2008 в 15:33 -0600, Ryan Hill пишет: > > > > > - FEATURES=test failures; > > > > And what we are supposed to do if upstream states that tests are not > supposed

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moving HOMEPAGE out of ebuilds for the future

2008-11-30 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Peter Volkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > В Вск, 30/11/2008 в 17:09 +0200, Serkan Kaba пишет: >> Peter Volkov yazmış: >> > Also sometimes it's useful to have different HOMEPAGE for different >> > versions. >> > >> > And in general, Diego. What are you trying to impr

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Saving package emerge output (einfo, elog, ewarn, etc.) somewhere official

2008-11-30 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Volkov wrote: >> Seems that we already have everything you dreamed about: >> >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3&chap=1#doc_chap4 >> >> Take a look at PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM. It even can send

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Moving HOMEPAGE out of ebuilds for the future

2008-11-30 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Alec Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Diego, What are the concrete benefits of your proposal? > > As I said: > > - no need to replicate homepag

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Moving HOMEPAGE out of ebuilds for the future

2008-12-01 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:24 AM, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Alec Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> - Space savings. Certainly your scheme may be smaller, but the XML >> tag overhead may eat into the sav

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: debug/release builds extensions/clarification proposal

2008-12-02 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Maciej Mrozowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 01 of December 2008 22:51:57 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >> Experience, manpower, the ability to try out potential enhancements >> rapidly, a long track record of getting it right and the growing >> recognition tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: debug/release builds extensions/clarification proposal

2008-12-03 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Maciej Mrozowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 02 of December 2008 10:40:19 Alec Warner wrote: > >> >> You asked, so the counter proposal is to *do nothing*. >> >> Ideas (even good ones) don't always get impleme

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: ChangeLog package.mask

2008-12-03 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Robin H. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to implore ALL developers to please ensure that they don't > commit broken stuff into profiles, esp. corrupt atoms in package.mask. Imploring is ineffective, humans fail. > > This change went into profiles/pack

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Create a JOBS variable to replace -jX in MAKEOPTS

2008-12-04 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Since not all the buildsystem we support use make for the actual build, > and they don't necessarily support make-like options (-jX -s and so on), > it would be nice to be able to express a JOBS variable that

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-admin/eselect needs YOUR help

2008-12-08 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Wulf C. Krueger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday, 08. December 2008 17:37:42 Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> Open and public debate about the right way to do things does take >> longer, and it's something you certainly participate in quite >> frequently so I'm surpri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/libIDL: libIDL-0.8.10.ebuild

2008-12-08 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Mart Raudsepp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On P, 2008-12-07 at 12:07 +, Mike Frysinger (vapier) wrote: >> vapier 08/12/07 12:07:53 >> >> Modified: libIDL-0.8.10.ebuild > >  > ChangeLog entires are mandatory without any exceptions for > stabili

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of net-misc/udhcp will break systems

2008-12-26 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Not sure where to report this. net-misc/udhcp got masked recently with > following notice: > > - net-misc/udhcp-0.9.9_pre20041216-r4 (masked by: package.mask) > /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: > # Diego Pettenò (23 Dec 2008) > #

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: ChangeLog use.local.desc

2009-01-02 Thread Alec Warner
How hard would it be to change permissions on the ,v file for this and just run the use.local.desc updater as a user with different privileges? -Alec On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Matsuu Takuto (matsuu) wrote: > matsuu 09/01/02 16:19:02 > > Modified: ChangeLog use.local.desc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: ChangeLog use.local.desc

2009-01-02 Thread Alec Warner
Eudora actually, I use a classy mail client. On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Doug Goldstein wrote: > Alec Warner wrote: >> How hard would it be to change permissions on the ,v file for this and >> just run the use.local.desc updater as a user with different >> privileges? &

Re: [gentoo-dev] reorganization of /var/lib gentoo-related files

2009-01-05 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Luca Barbato wrote: > Fabio Rossi wrote: >> >> I'm proposing to reorganize the files related to Gentoo inside /var/lib. >> Currently we have this situation (at least on my system): >> >> /var/lib/eselect >> /var/lib/gentoo/enews >> /var/lib/herdstat/ >> /var/lib/mod

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: package.mask

2009-01-12 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:05 AM, AllenJB wrote: > Peter Volkov wrote: >> >> В Вск, 11/01/2009 в 10:31 +0100, Benedikt Böhm пишет: >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 01:56:52AM +0100, Friedrich Oslage wrote: - - you forgot the ChangeLog entry >>> >>> `cvs log` is the changelog, i don't see w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anouncement: Updated kde4 eclasses in the tree.

2009-01-12 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Dale wrote: > Tomáš Chvátal wrote: >> Hi, >> << SNIP >> >> >> Tomas >> PS: I really hope i didnt miss something important. >> PPS: I really really hope that this time kmail will sent this as only text >> mail not html one. >> > > And in the future, hit compose new

Re: [gentoo-dev] slot deps in package.mask and profiles

2009-01-26 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Jeremy Olexa wrote: > Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Donnie Berkholz wrote: >>> >>> On 21:04 Sun 25 Jan , Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:25:44 -0100 "Jorge Manuel B. S

Re: [gentoo-dev] PR Project Activity Issues

2009-01-26 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:30 PM, AllenJB wrote: > Hi all, > > The Gentoo PR Project currently appears to be having difficulties with > keeping up, both with the newsletters and announcements, and I believe this > is currently reflecting badly on the project as a whole. These issues are > apparentl

Re: [gentoo-dev] PR Project Activity Issues

2009-01-26 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> On 21:30 Mon 26 Jan , AllenJB wrote: >>> The Gentoo PR Project currently appears to be having difficulties with >>> keeping up, both with the newsletters and announcements, and I believe >>> this is currently ref

Re: [gentoo-dev] PR Project Activity Issues

2009-01-27 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:17 AM, AllenJB wrote: > Alec Warner wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:30 PM, AllenJB >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> The Gentoo PR Project currently appears to be having difficulties with >>> keep

Re: [gentoo-dev] PR Project Activity Issues

2009-01-31 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 01:55 Tue 27 Jan , Alec Warner wrote: >> Getting Index2 live is I think a different operational issue (that >> changes to the website are very slow) and really has nothing to do >> with PR aside from them n

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Issues regarding glep-55 (Was: [gentoo-council] Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009)

2009-02-23 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:43:09 -0700 > Steve Dibb wrote: >> Plus, I don't really grasp the whole "we have to source the whole >> ebuild to know the EAPI version" argument. It's one variable, in one >> line. Can't a simple parser get that an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Issues regarding glep-55 (Was: [gentoo-council] Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009)

2009-02-24 Thread Alec Warner
Somewhat ironically, had everyone been less stubborn last year when discussing this topic we could have embedded the EAPI in line X of the ebuild in 2008 and be using it now; instead of still discussing it. I don't expect new novel ideas out of this thread. I expect the council to defer it again

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Issues regarding glep-55 (Was: [gentoo-council] Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009)

2009-02-24 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:21:25 -0800 > Alec Warner wrote: >> Somewhat ironically, had everyone been less stubborn last year when >> discussing this topic we could have embedded the EAPI in line X of the >> ebuild in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Issues regarding glep-55 (Was: [gentoo-council] Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009)

2009-02-24 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:33:19 -0800 > Alec Warner wrote: >> Hey I never said its a perfect solution; but I'm a fan of the 'it >> covers 80%'. Sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it too;

Re: [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives

2009-02-24 Thread Alec Warner
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Petteri Räty wrote: > Let's try something new. I would like to get opinions from as many > people as possible about GLEP 55 and alternatives listed here in order > to get some idea what the general developer pool thinks. Everyone is > only allowed to post a singl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How to speed up maintenance and other Gentoo work?

2009-03-07 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Caleb Cushing wrote: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht > wrote: >> Give a git access to the developpers beside the current CVS ? > > or replace cvs with git... oh and you can replace rsync too... because > git is faster there as well. People are

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