On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Volkov wrote: >> Seems that we already have everything you dreamed about: >> >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3&chap=1#doc_chap4 >> >> Take a look at PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM. It even can send that messages by >> mail :) > > This is all cool, indeed! :) > > I suspect, however, that most users have never played with these > variables. I think that saving this info in the portage db or making it > more default/official in some way could be a great help. The core > problem is, I think, that many users do not know where to look when > having trouble, so they may not even realize that what they need is in > the log info.
I suspect that no one really disagrees with more communication; but I imagine many are not willing to put time into it. So I suggest you come up with better ideas to communicate to users about the existing logging solutions and then implement them ;) The gentoo homepage is one way, the GMN is another, Forums is a third. Just write one article about it and publish it everywhere. Also Gentoo-Wiki ;) -Alec > > The reason I was phrasing it more in "readme" terms is that most people > can identify with that concept, and it could be made clear that there > exists Gentoo-specific readme info that is always available (regardless > of whether a user sets up the portage logging stuff). The bare log > messages could exist as a minimal default for packages that do nothing > special to provide more readme info. > > -Joe > >
