Dnia 2 czerwca 2016 21:36:10 CEST, waltd...@waltdnes.org napisał(a):
>On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 06:50:59AM +0100, Graham Murray wrote
>> waltd...@waltdnes.org writes:
>>
>> > Let me re-phrase my question... is there *ANY* set of
>circumstances
>> > under which any of X/xorg/wayland/mir/qt4/qt5/gtk
Hi everyone,
The Council will be meeting on Sunday June 12. This is a call for any
agenda items.
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On 2016-06-02 05:27 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
On 06/02/2016 12:57 PM, Damien Levac wrote:
On 2016-06-02 03:42 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 09:31:11AM -0400, Damien Levac wrote
IMHO, you see this in reverse. the 'gui' useflag would be useful for
users who don't w
On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 07:01:03 -0400
"Anthony G. Basile" wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> The Council will be meeting on Sunday June 12. This is a call for any
> agenda items.
In preferred order of discussion (i.e. shortest topics first):
1. the 'file installation masks' GLEP [spec:1, RFC:2, bug:3]. It
On 02/06/16 05:27 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> To play devil's advocate, can we get a citation on "users don't want to
> care"? Which users? Does Gentoo have a lot of users who don't care, or
> does it attract a more passionate audience that enjoys the control that
> comes with being source-based?
On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Damien Levac wrote:
> On 2016-06-02 05:27 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
>
>> On 06/02/2016 12:57 PM, Damien Levac wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 2016-06-02 03:42 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
>>>
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 09:31:11AM -0400, Damien Levac wrote
> IM
On 02/06/16 09:48 PM, Nick Vinson wrote:
> On 06/02/2016 08:08 AM, Raymond Jennings wrote:
>> use case: Telling a package to build a gui without deciding which one
>> to build. Also helps in cases where you have package A that can only
>> build a qt gui, and package B that can build both qt and g
On 06/03/2016 10:52 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> Dnia 2 czerwca 2016 21:36:10 CEST, waltd...@waltdnes.org napisał(a):
>>
>> Is it broken right now? What improvement will we see from having to
>> add a "GUI" flag?
> TL;DR: it's broken as hell, missing GUI, flag conflicts, implicit flags, full
> pack
On 02/06/16 10:42 -0500, james wrote:
> On 06/01/2016 06:20 PM, Justin Bronder wrote:
> > Due to a lack of time and the fact I don't use any of these packages
> > anymore, they are all up for grabs.
> >
> > - media-gfx/openmesh [no project]
> > - sys-cluster/ganglia [cluster]
> >
On 06/03/2016 12:02 PM, Justin Bronder wrote:
On 02/06/16 10:42 -0500, james wrote:
On 06/01/2016 06:20 PM, Justin Bronder wrote:
> Due to a lack of time and the fact I don't use any of these packages
> anymore, they are all up for grabs.
>
> - media-gfx/openmesh [no project]
>
On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 10:35:45AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote
> USE=gui is about building the graphical user interface that an
> application offers, when it is optional. That's it. What
> dependencies that means and so on have nothing to do with the flag.
That reasoning may have been valid
On 03/06/2016 21:34, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 10:35:45AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote
USE=gui is about building the graphical user interface that an
application offers, when it is optional. That's it. What
dependencies that means and so on have nothing to do with
On 03/06/16 21:13, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Walter,
>
> I think you're missing where the devs want to take this and what USE
> is all about. It's about *features*, not about dependencies.
>
> USE="gtk" is a dependency.
> USE="gui" is a feature.
> You only need enable a specific graphics lib flag when
On Jun 3, 2016 1:15 PM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote:
>
> On 03/06/2016 21:34, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 10:35:45AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote
>>
>>> USE=gui is about building the graphical user interface that an
>>> application offers, when it is optional. That's it.
On 03/06/2016 23:33, Nick Vinson wrote:
> USE="gtk" is a dependency.
No. It is a feature. However, it is a feature named after the
dependencies needed to enable it. If a package has a hard dependency on
libgtk, a USE flag would not be added, but a soft dependency on libgtk
means that libgtk
On 06/03/2016 07:35 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 02/06/16 09:48 PM, Nick Vinson wrote:
>> On 06/02/2016 08:08 AM, Raymond Jennings wrote:
>>> use case: Telling a package to build a gui without deciding which one
>>> to build. Also helps in cases where you have package A that can only
>>> buil
On 03/06/16 11:26 PM, Nick Vinson wrote:
>
> [ Snip! ] In cases where there's more than 1 option, you have to
> either introduce RESTRICTED_USE as Patrick alluded to, or decide a
> pecking order (or decide who gets to decide the pecking order).
Which dev's already need to do, without USE=gui --
On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 14:33:16 -0700
Nick Vinson wrote:
> On Jun 3, 2016 1:15 PM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote:
> >
> > On 03/06/2016 21:34, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 10:35:45AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote
> >>
> >>> USE=gui is about building the graphical user i
Mart Raudsepp wrote:
> Ühel kenal päeval, K, 01.06.2016 kell 20:24, kirjutas Martin Vaeth:
>> Gentoo has chosen this name so that as a side effect of setting
>> USE=linguas_* you also get a correct LINGUAS variable exported
>> (according to the USE-settings and your settings and according
>> to th
On 06/03/2016 09:07 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 03/06/16 11:26 PM, Nick Vinson wrote:
>>
>> [ Snip! ] In cases where there's more than 1 option, you have to
>> either introduce RESTRICTED_USE as Patrick alluded to, or decide a
>> pecking order (or decide who gets to decide the pecking order).
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